Automech questions

[Odoaker 0]

Before you say, go read the other threads, i did

 

Now:

 

Why lvl PA and MA?

 

Does maximize stack on Precision or not? ( some say yes, other no )

 

If i use Precision lvl10 ( stacked with automation 10 ) + Compulsion 10 + mag sphere 10 + Golem 10 = that the correct automech hunt build?

 

Is it usefull to stay 260 ( 269 in future ) strength to wear max armor?

 

Any other tips?

 

[Gogg 3]

PA and MA is a bit useless. You can't use both with Automation.

But, in desperate times, you can use them to tank a little if you need it. Auto-mechs don't have a lot of skills to use, so they could be a good option to spend the rest of your skill points.

 

No idea if they stack. Best option is try that out when they're lvl1. If it works, you know what to do ;D

 

To hunt you won't use Compulsion, I guess. Compulsion will attrack the monster, and all you don't want is tank something. Precision + Magnectic Spheres + Golem (to tank) should be the best (and ES maybe, if you're going for javelin)

 

Auto-mech = hunting. On PvP or mass killing it sucks. To hunt you got your Golem to tank, so if that was me I'd max out agility, to increase the damage with ranged weapons. I'd even use a noob set to keep the agility as high as possible. You just have buffs to play, so you won't use pots that often.

[Odoaker 0]

84 str

80 tal

64 spirit

24 health

rest agi

 

i use ES with nub shield, switch to bow, cast comp, spheres, golem and Precision ( only cast comp when no mobs near )

 

hide behind golem,and shoot arrows ftw

 

 

[Gogg 3]

That might be outstanding on hunting ._.

[Sonho 0]

Before you say, go read the other threads, i did

 

Now:

 

Why lvl PA and MA?

 

Does maximize stack on Precision or not? ( some say yes, other no )

 

If i use Precision lvl10 ( stacked with automation 10 ) + Compulsion 10 + mag sphere 10 + Golem 10 = that the correct automech hunt build?

 

Is it usefull to stay 260 ( 269 in future ) strength to wear max armor?

 

Any other tips?

Maximaize does NOT stack, Wartale comfirmed it when i reported it, so the skill  is updated on the homepage.

Most people use Compulsion,mag and golem at 10 as a automech ^^

[hide 1]

Pa and MA 10 , only for running away from mobs, they are not important.

I think you should keep your str low at possible and the rest to agility. mine is just enough for bow , spirit at 3x for glove, my soccer shirt and glove mixed mp so i have just enough to cast tier5 skill. With soccert shirt i can tank 2 hits from xetan, with armor  120, still 2 hits, so i dont recommend high str. You dont need compulsion, u guys should know how this skill work. no abs is added if there are no mobs around.  If there are, you're just asking for hell if you cast this skill.

[zgjsyxwj 0]

mag sphere sometimes is a suicide skill while hunting, it may lure other mobs nearby. Three strength types for automech: enough strenghth for subgears(brace,gaunt,boot), enough strenghth for shield(while use javelin),enough strenghth for armor. I prefer the third type, 1st type 1-2 hit u die, 2nd type tank a little better, but useless, 3rd type, lost some damage, but save a ton of rebirth scrolls.  Btw, u can go hybird , coz auto mech build will have a lot skill points left, then u go pa 10, ma1, and blah... when u go exp, only need to rebuid agility to spirit and some strength for armor.

[Gogg 3]

Ranger + armor = failure

[muzzy 0]

Maximize does not stack on precision because it does not stack on automation.

 

Because automechs do not have an attack skill, it'll have extra skilll points to be spent. I would definitely use these skill points on physical absorption and metal armour to help tank in situations where monsters spawn near mech.

 

You listed the right skills to hunt as an automech. Just be careful when you use complusion because it can attract mobs.

 

I would have have the following stat distribution:

84 or 85 strength to wear the highest bow (not javelin).

8 spirit because automechs do not need spirit to cast skills.

80 talent because this is the lowest requirement to wear the highest level bow.

23 health because automech have the golem to tank all the damage from the monster.

Rest in agility because it kills the monsters faster.

 

For equipment I would recommend the following:

Boots/gauntlets/bracelet: highest that you can wear with 85 strength.

Shield: i would wear the highest MS shield that you can wear with 85 strength. Why? So that you can be able to run away in situations better than bow.

Armour: dracula suit MS because this gives a lot of defense for lowest strength.

Sheltom/ring/amulet: highest that you can wear with 8 spirit.

Weapon: Highest level bow for your level and with 85 strength.

            Also highest claw you can wear with 85 strength. This is used with MS shield to run away from mobs easier.

[Gogg 3]

Do anyone read before posting?

[zgjsyxwj 0]

Ranger + armor = failure

@Gogg

Pro,can u tell me when did u biuld to automech? Never share BS here if u havent even tried automech yourself.

 

@other readers

Guys, dont get misled by him and dont believe in me, just believe yourselves and make ur own decisions. I think one day you will all go to et3 and ice mine 1st fl. with your automechs. Just see if there are all mechs wearing soccer suit BOM. Btw, in et3 and ice mine, nearly no spawn with only one mob. So if u believe u can lure only one mob each time without awaken other mobs, u can go pure agility.  Go try yourselves.

[rptps 1]

time for auto mech wears armor.

wanna hunting on ice 1 then armor must be

my str is 284 for armor 124 bit high though.

i have tested with many diffent builds on ice 1 such as : base str max agi wears soc suit.it works out as a disaster for me.

money spends for rebirth scroll too much.base str and bit points on health also doest work..die too easy.

finally, i decided to go for armor with automech.. take bit more time to kill mob but it is ok..i can tank and i can lure mob too.

[Gogg 3]

Ranger + armor = failure, I already said that.

 

All an auto-mech can do is hunt. They got nice damage/time, but low damage/hit, what makes them not so good on PvP killing. They're bad tankers as they don't use Metal Armor frequently and got low HP due to stat points spending on agility to max out their damage.

 

On hunting you won't tank, Metal Golem will do that. You need no armor for that.

Put a noob set up, to match Mokova boots requirements. It's awesome using moko boots because you won't tank, and sometimes you'll need to run a bit, so more run speed is always great. Same reason I'd put a soccer shirt or suit as armor.

 

You don't need potting, don't expend unecessary points to wear good gauntlets ir braces.

 

The more agility you have, the more damage you do. The more damage you do, your skill boosting will be a lot bigger. Congratulations, you became a hunt machine!

 

Play smart and mobs will never touch you. You REALLY don't need to tank anything.

 

@zgjsyxwj: if you don't know how to play, stay quiet. You don't know me, so better save your conclusions about what I do to yourself only.

[zgjsyxwj 0]

time for auto mech wears armor.

wanna hunting on ice 1 then armor must be

my str is 284 for armor 124 bit high though.

i have tested with many diffent builds on ice 1 such as : base str max agi wears soc suit.it works out as a disaster for me.

money spends for rebirth scroll too much.base str and bit points on health also doest work..die too easy.

finally, i decided to go for armor with automech.. take bit more time to kill mob but it is ok..i can tank and i can lure mob too.

 

+1  gold from selling craps to NPC<gold for rebirth, pure agility really hard to survive even when you run pass by mobs, you get stun and you die there. I also use 124 armor, we can survive most time even when some nubs lure on me.

[rptps 1]

time for auto mech wears armor.

wanna hunting on ice 1 then armor must be

my str is 284 for armor 124 bit high though.

i have tested with many diffent builds on ice 1 such as : base str max agi wears soc suit.it works out as a disaster for me.

money spends for rebirth scroll too much.base str and bit points on health also doest work..die too easy.

finally, i decided toj go for armor with automech.. take bit more time to kill mob but it is ok..i can tank and i can lure mob too.

 

+1  gold from selling craps to NPC<gold for rebirth, pure agility really hard to survive even when you run pass by mobs, you get stun and you die there. I also use 124 armor, we can survive most time even when some nubs lure on me.

Gogg is right when ice1 not be released.on et3,its ok with pure agi and soc suit.on ice1,totally different story.mob spawn location is very closed.much closer than on et3.without using compusion,there is large chance which 2 mobs might attrack you at once.

Time.for auto mech with armor.

[Lameass 0]

if i were to choose between dracula suit and the new soccer suit as an armor for automech, which would be better at +20?

I like these suits because their different/stylish plus doesn't require stats

personally i'd choose soccer suit because it lets you run faster and at +20 is like 25 abs.

dracula suit though sacrifices the running speed for spec def and def. at +20 it has like 1400 def (with spec) and 15 abs.

auto isn't supposed to be a tanker.. why +20

[Gogg 3]

If I build an auto mech I would use a set that fits bow requirements, soccer shirt and mix them all with HP stuff.

 

You're not supposed to tank, but dying in 1 hit to mobs all time won't be cool.

[Gogg 3]

Bow = lot less str = lot more agi

Bow = lot more range

Bow = more critical

120 bow = cheap, 122 javelin = not cheap

 

You're not going to tank ANYWAY, why wielding a shield to power up your defenses?

If you're going to run auto mech and you do ANYTHING that might lead to a better tanking apart of power up your attack power, you're a failure, seriously.

[quick2bud 0]

is the range working properly for mech?  seem really low.

[Gogg 3]

Don't know...

 

Maybe it's because atas and archers got range add from skills?

[quick2bud 0]

Don't know...

 

Maybe it's because atas and archers got range add from skills?

 

probably im just spoiled