Coyy 78 Report post Posted April 29, 2024 (edited) In PVE: All parties dropped significantly the %, at least 200bi/h. Why? Because mage nerf, buffs nerf, AOE skills nerf. At LC time dropped from 18 min to 23 min, Shaman lure skill nerf, mage nerf, buffs nerf. Dont forget, we exp in GROUP when you nerf buffs like enchant weapon/divine force, you nerf ALL CLASSES. In PVP (BC) now everyone super tanker, classes that supposed to have high damage now are tankers and lack of damage (I'm talking about rangers, pikes, assassins), classes that were already tankers now are immortals. No fun to make bps, just boring "crowd war", who has more players will win. Nothing else to add. The "so expected" buff in MS resulted in nothing, the class was buff and nerf at the same time, and end up trash like before. We had probably 3 classes the needed a balance in pvp (MS/BS/PS), now we have all 11 classes unbalanced. Why make a generic balance for all classes, instead of making individual balances? So, my simple question is: the server is better for the players after update or before? the answer for me is a clear WORST. I hope all community come give opinions about this situation, because it affects EVERYONE, PVE and PVP players! Edited April 29, 2024 by Coyy 35 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miiros 79 Report post Posted April 29, 2024 (edited) On 4/29/2024 at 8:57 PM, Coyy said: o PVE: All parties dropped significantly in %, at least 200 billion/h. Why? Because nerf mage, nerf buffs, nerf AOE skills. In LC the time dropped from 18 min to 23 min, Shaman attracts skill nerf, mage nerf, buffs nerf. Don't forget, we expose as a GROUP when you nerf buffs like enchant weapon/divine force, you nerf ALL CLASSES. In PVP ( BC 😞 now everyone is a super tanker, the classes that should have high damage are now tankers and no damage (I'm talking about rangers, pikes, assassins), classes that were already tankers are now immortal . bps, just boring "crowd war", whoever has the most players will win. Nothing more to add The "long-awaited" buff on MS resulted in nothing, the class was buffed and nerfed at the same time, and ended up as trash as before. .We had probably 3 classes that needed balancing in pvp (MS / BS / PS), now we have all 11 classes unbalanced Why make a generic balance for all classes, instead of making individual balances? So my simple question is: is the server better for players after the update or before? the answer for me is clearly WORSE. I hope the entire community comes forward to give their opinion on this situation, as it affects EVERYONE, PVE and PVP players! Read more Up in the XP service, before the patch the average was 1.1 tri/h, after the patch 0.80 tri/h, where do you want to get to? +1 Edited April 29, 2024 by miiros , 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rasthafary 202 Report post Posted April 29, 2024 On 4/29/2024 at 8:57 PM, Coyy said: In PVE: All parties dropped significantly the %, at least 200bi/h. Why? Because mage nerf, buffs nerf, AOE skills nerf. At LC time dropped from 18 min to 23 min, Shaman lure skill nerf, mage nerf, buffs nerf. Dont forget, we exp in GROUP when you nerf buffs like enchant weapon/divine force, you nerf ALL CLASSES. In PVP (BC) now everyone super tanker, classes that supposed to have high damage now are tankers and lack of damage (I'm talking about rangers, pikes, assassins), classes that were already tankers now are immortals. No fun to make bps, just boring "crowd war", who has more players will win. Nothing else to add. The "so expected" buff in MS resulted in nothing, the class was buff and nerf at the same time, and end up trash like before. We had probably 3 classes the needed a balance in pvp (MS/BS/PS), now we have all 11 classes unbalanced. Why make a generic balance for all classes, instead of making individual balances? So, my simple question is: the server is better for the players after update or before? the answer for me is a clear WORST. I hope all community come give opinions about this situation, because it affects EVERYONE, PVE and PVP players! Read more my mech power dream is dead 😞 i've been waiting 2 years for this and nothing, i'd rather go see the pelé movie. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xkintaro 1,966 Report post Posted April 29, 2024 (edited) Whenever new patchs come with balance stuff, they pull all the characters down in terms of strength, never trying to equalize on top, but always on the bottom. "Look how weak the mech is currently, we're going to make everyone as miserable as he is in terms of damage." is ready and BALANCED Edited April 29, 2024 by xkintaro 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HollyShot 1,005 Report post Posted April 29, 2024 Agree 100% with this topic, the only good part of this balance in my opinion was the amazon rework, and the nerf in DEbuffs. If i could choose, i would definitely cancel this patch. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mayreen 973 Report post Posted April 29, 2024 On 4/29/2024 at 8:57 PM, Coyy said: So, my simple question is: the server is better for the players after update or before? the answer for me is a clear WORST. Read more +1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sdmlucas 75 Report post Posted April 29, 2024 Its important to everybody giving their feedbacks. So, lets make a comparisson of any situation in game. In LC i agree that time dropped mainly because of too many nerfs in AOE skills. As same for EXP at EB. Considering what you said about Bless Castle this situation is terrible, Where is the strategy applied in game ? How can we make an strategy ? Sometimes Its possible to revert bad situations in pvp using the knowledge of game. Seeing this topic and the players on PVP, It's sad to think that this nerf is killing the fun in game. If nobody is dieing where is the fun ? I guess its better nerf everybody, nerf block in ks, bs, ss so maybe they can die in pvp and it makes fair for everyone. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AnJoS 232 Report post Posted April 29, 2024 (edited) I was thinking about change class to mech... But I'll continue playing pike (dead?). Let's keep testing these nerfs (balance? haha). Test your class -> Leave your feedback. Edited April 29, 2024 by AnJoS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capybara 506 Report post Posted April 29, 2024 I don't understand, instead of posting a preview of the build update so that it can be discussed and "polished" the idea, they just release it. I wonder how they do the "tests" they talk so much about... 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Draxler 31 Report post Posted April 29, 2024 (edited) About luminous cave 2022 - weapon 138 - LC 17 min 2024 - weapon 146 dnt + 30str + full relic - LC 24 min this is wartale Edited April 29, 2024 by Draxler 6 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shot - Alv 200 Report post Posted April 29, 2024 On 4/29/2024 at 8:57 PM, Coyy said: In PVE: All parties dropped significantly the %, at least 200bi/h. Why? Because mage nerf, buffs nerf, AOE skills nerf. At LC time dropped from 18 min to 23 min, Shaman lure skill nerf, mage nerf, buffs nerf. Dont forget, we exp in GROUP when you nerf buffs like enchant weapon/divine force, you nerf ALL CLASSES. In PVP (BC) now everyone super tanker, classes that supposed to have high damage now are tankers and lack of damage (I'm talking about rangers, pikes, assassins), classes that were already tankers now are immortals. No fun to make bps, just boring "crowd war", who has more players will win. Nothing else to add. The "so expected" buff in MS resulted in nothing, the class was buff and nerf at the same time, and end up trash like before. We had probably 3 classes the needed a balance in pvp (MS/BS/PS), now we have all 11 classes unbalanced. Why make a generic balance for all classes, instead of making individual balances? So, my simple question is: the server is better for the players after update or before? the answer for me is a clear WORST. I hope all community come give opinions about this situation, because it affects EVERYONE, PVE and PVP players! Read more +1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
willbruxo 14 Report post Posted April 29, 2024 The nerf in damage buffs broke the pvp, brawler should be nerf not buffed 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeoHiei 514 Report post Posted April 29, 2024 +1 Huge nerfs followed by a discount in change class 🤔 They don't even try to hide it 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sananda 571 Report post Posted April 29, 2024 (edited) +1 I found the nerf to debuff skills interesting. Made pvp more dynamic. But without the need to nerf BUFF skills. Clearly you harm some classes and improve others. The game balance was lost for no reason. Edited April 29, 2024 by Sananda Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
=) 66 Report post Posted April 29, 2024 +1 rip a good pvp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
erickloro 401 Report post Posted April 29, 2024 Actually wartale is a pve server guys, so i like ms improvements. i cant say for other classes, i just play with one of them ;-; 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-DarkSide- 116 Report post Posted April 29, 2024 +1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mykems1 0 Report post Posted April 29, 2024 Solve this while few people saw it, downgrade this level is a good reason to lose a lot of people, remember, we are looking for improvements, it is for the good of the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drick2008xx 48 Report post Posted April 29, 2024 +1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jesusvida2 26 Report post Posted April 29, 2024 @erickloro, man I don't know your lvl nor how long you play, but I tested at SL and SS, and the damage is worse then before... I tryed go 1v1 pvp aswell, and is worse then before... All MS as needing was a buff at attack ratting and a usefull skill to do damage in area, and, unfortunately they gave and took that area damage away nerfing "Maximize"... MS is worse then It was before this patch 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites