This patch balance was made to let players happy or mad?

[Lyseria 1,825]

1 minute ago, miiros said:

You are comparing fire bolt which is a 1v1 skill with flame wave which is an AOE skill!

This dude is insane 😂

 

[FredderickS 80]

7 minutes ago, miiros said:

You are comparing fire bolt which is a 1v1 skill with flame wave which is an AOE skill!

area doesn't have to matter unless you want to compare against numerous mobs

in fact? an aoe skill shouldn't be more powerful vs one that focuses on a single target

Example
Avering Crash, Destroyer, Grand Cross, Vigor Ball

[miiros 79]

5 minutes ago, Lyseria said:

This dude is insane 😂

 

 

[FredderickS 80]

 

I must clarify that it was a mistake here.
the true values should be these

 

 Bomb Shot
Bomb Shot does 2 hits.
Bomb Shot's initial firing speed is 6, regardless of your bow's firing speed. (Casting Time 3 sec)
Bomb Shot deals double damage to the primary target.
Surrounding enemies gain half the damage increase, but gain additional splash damage.
The demonic bonus applies to area damage only.

Vs Main Target         [You Damage 100% + (88% Dmg Boost * 2 Main Target)] * [(2 Hits + 2 Effect Burn)]                           
                                   Total DPS into 3 sec   1104% 
Vs Aoe Demon         [You Damage 100% + 44% Dmg Boost + 100% Demon boost] * [(2 Hits + 2 Effect Burn) + 250 - 500]   
                                   Total DPS into 3 sec   976% + (500-1000) 
Vs Aoe No Demon   [You Damage 100% + 44% Dmg Boost] * [(2 Hits + 2 Effect Burn) + 250 - 500]                                  
                                   Total DPS into 3 sec   576% + (500-1000)

Edited May 5, 2024 by FredderickS

[lavanm221282 42]

On 5/2/2024 at 7:35 AM, Overlady said:

 

 

Maximize only increases maximum attack, not both minimum and maximum like Weapon Mastery. If we further buff the Mechanician's damage, it will become more powerful than a Fighter in 1v1 situations, which is something we don't want to happen. Previously, Mechanic bomb and Impulsion were overtuned on the main target as a way to counterbalance the half damage to AoE. Now, they are weaker on the main target but stronger on the AoE, as it should be.

Best,

Overlady

 

Power Ms is still very bad in pve and pvp, bad update.

[vhnh167 285]

On 5/6/2024 at 7:07 PM, lavanm221282 said:

 

Power Ms is still very bad in pve and pvp, bad update.

Yeah it sucks so much I feel bad wasting money changing from Knight to Power Mech. Probably the biggest mistake I've ever made.

[lavanm221282 42]

5 hours ago, vhnh167 said:

Yeah it sucks so much I feel bad wasting money changing from Knight to Power Mech. Probably the biggest mistake I've ever made.

Wrong decided! 

[Jysn 127]

If we stop complaining, this will go on deaf ears and we will have to live with nerfing characters all the time to compensate with lack of content. STOP NERFING AND START BUFFING TRASH CHAR!

[Coyy 78]

On 5/3/2024 at 9:34 PM, Mjizzy_7 said:

Ps cannot kill 🙂 165 Pike. Fs is tanker     1 Pic say more then words

This photo cannot be used as an example. CS you get 3.5k correct, every 10 attempts !
You and your close friends did actually managed to influence the balance, now look at what happened..
No problem... we're following what's happening...
Now you and you clan have the castle to yourself and no disputes.
ALL WERE NERFED!
Enjoy WarTale ^^

Edited May 12, 2024 by Coyy

[Mjizzy_7 1,962]

7 hours ago, Coyy said:

This photo cannot be used as an example. CS you get 3.5k correct, every 10 attempts !
You and your close friends did actually managed to influence the balance, now look at what happened..
No problem... we're following what's happening...
Now you and you clan have the castle to yourself and no disputes.
ALL WERE NERFED!
Enjoy WarTale ^^

Lol. What we had to do with the balance ? 

[TigerShark22 491]

13 hours ago, Coyy said:

This photo cannot be used as an example. CS you get 3.5k correct, every 10 attempts !
You and your close friends did actually managed to influence the balance, now look at what happened..
No problem... we're following what's happening...
Now you and you clan have the castle to yourself and no disputes.
ALL WERE NERFED!
Enjoy WarTale ^^

 

They complain that a class that should hitkill, with vanish+charge (Very risky+time consuming ), can hitkill.

Yet they want archers to spam hitkills from far away with solar arrow, with way faster animation skill.

They want mage to hitkill with lvl 90 skill.

SS to hitkill with his ray.

Mech to hitkill with obliterate .

Or ass, to kill with her violent stab+ deception combo. ( In here I agree, shes also a hitkill type class, yet not 1 hit. That combo has  very high AR+ very high crit, so should be fine).

 

But the rest- don't live in reality.

I say this as a none pike.

Edited May 13, 2024 by TigerShark22

[Jysn 127]

Is the issue done? Are we just going to accept all the nerfs now?

[Capybara 467]

Every update has sensible topics and posts debating about it, which even make sense, but as with every update (and suggestion given), the staff will ignore it. Welcome to Wartale.

[jesusvida2 26]

3 hours ago, Jysn said:

Is the issue done? Are we just going to accept all the nerfs now?

I wish not, I'm still mad that they nerfed even more MS.... The amount of complaint that had, should be something, but they don't care for what we say.... For them the game is "balanced", so they won't do anything more... As one of the remaining power MS I say, RIP MS. For auto MS was something good, they got a buff at passive, even tanker got nerfed with block beeing reduced at "Trine"... Basically, or you play with auto, or play with something else.... Want a tanker? PRS, KS, MG. Want to deal damage while tanking? KS, MG, BS. Want to do damage? Every class but MS.

[ChookaPow 227]

wartale

tales of wars?

nerftale

tales of nerfs?

 

i had a nerf gun when i was a kid

good times

[Jysn 127]

So we totally just accepted nerfing all the time? Alright!

[jesusvida2 26]

And what can we do about it? The amount of complaint that had SHOULD have been enough, but It wasn't. If you want to play with a char that's worth playing, play with KS/BS/PRS and maybe ATA/FS, the rest forget it. SS only for the speed buff and nothing more. That's the reality of the game: We have the broken/worth chars for PvP/PvE and we have the useless that need to be carried. And there is the top tier dung of the server: Mechanician, only worth to be your punching bag!

[Dior 633]

i still mad about Nerfing RAVING Skill...

maybe 5% fighters used this skill, and even that skill got nerfed lmao...

 

 

[ace1 194]

Only way to balance MS is getting rid of auto build.

 

MS has the best skill set for tanking tasks with a secondary focus on 1v1 melee (power build)... You just can't have such a class to be a ranger too... It  simply becomes overpowered/over-requested class because very good at many things even if not the best at anything. That's when it gets nerfed and becomes completely useless again and we get stuck in the endless loop of trash-ms era followed by a mstale era with over buffed ms.

 

Only way to let MS breath and be the best at something is removing auto build from the balance so the class can receive buffs without shining more than it should.

[KriKa. 2,389]

Iam ok with gama