Adjustments for assassin

[caiofzms 3]

*increase the hit chance of poison and fire (85%+?) 65% and 52% sucks
*Increase the damage of Violant Stab (pve only) or reduce the delay (we need dps and our best skill doesn't do 25-30k in damage, while other melee classes have 50k+ attacks)
*Another point, they should reallocate some skills from tier 1-3 to tier 4/5, because we have many essential skills in this area of common points and it turns out that it is not possible to place them in most of them. And at the same time we have skills that are not so effective in PVE in tiers 4/5, so much so that they end up having points left over... even though they are all level 10... (or release a patch to reallocate the extra points to other tiers).

Just 3 fair changes would make the class more useful in both DGs and solo PvE. And if the person focuses on PvP, just change the build.

[mastellini 343]

sometimes i have dificult to see if monster is poisoned xD

[Levievan 72]

2 hours ago, Diell said:

Now, people who don't even play the class came here to say that the class tanks and you just need to have the right items. They must be playing a different game than the one we know.

This is the point. I even gave up on playing assassin as the main character, as it is unfeasible to play with a class that can't even party.

[alternate99 49]

Developers still ignore your suggestions because assassin class is just fine lol

[Diell 951]

3 hours ago, alternate99 said:

Developers still ignore your suggestions because assassin class is just fine lol

Who said they ignored it? Speak for yourself, don't speak for others.
Keep your opinion, you're just one of many.
That our community has a lot of toxic people, that's nothing new.
But I've presented my feedback and the team will analyze whether or not it's viable, and they won't do what I'm asking, these are just parameters to base themselves on, so let's let them analyze.
You've already expressed your point of view, now stay quiet, the staff doesn't need representatives to speak for them.

[alternate99 49]

13 minutes ago, Diell said:

Who said they ignored it? Speak for yourself, don't speak for others.
Keep your opinion, you're just one of many.
That our community has a lot of toxic people, that's nothing new.
But I've presented my feedback and the team will analyze whether or not it's viable, and they won't do what I'm asking, these are just parameters to base themselves on, so let's let them analyze.
You've already expressed your point of view, now stay quiet, the staff doesn't need representatives to speak for them.

Why mad? Your just too much wartale in your head. Take a break baby. Assassin is fine, you just dont know how to build and play it. Thats not developers problem lmao

[Diell 951]

Just now, alternate99 said:

Why mad? Your just too much wartale in your head. Take a break baby. Assassin is fine, you just dont know how to build and play it. Thats not developers problem lmao

Ahah, you are simply insignificant and ignorant. I don't even have to answer your messages because you want to be seen. You've already had your 5 minutes of fame.

I have too much Wartale in my head, don't I? And you are so superior that you want to argue on the forum of the same game.

I at least took the time to make a consistent post about my experience in the game and gave my feedback. Meanwhile, your argument is "assassins are good" and you think you're killing it. Get real.

Keep talking to yourself, because I'm not going to give you an audience.

I agree with and just accept whatever decision the team thinks is best. They know what's best. As for what you think about whether I know how to play or not, I don't care. It doesn't change anything in my life.

My time is mine and I use it as I want. If you're bothered, the exit door is right here. I miss you.

[alternate99 49]

8 minutes ago, Diell said:

Ahah, you are simply insignificant and ignorant. I don't even have to answer your messages because you want to be seen. You've already had your 5 minutes of fame.

I have too much Wartale in my head, don't I? And you are so superior that you want to argue on the forum of the same game.

I at least took the time to make a consistent post about my experience in the game and gave my feedback. Meanwhile, your argument is "assassins are good" and you think you're killing it. Get real.

Keep talking to yourself, because I'm not going to give you an audience.

I agree with and just accept whatever decision the team thinks is best. They know what's best. As for what you think about whether I know how to play or not, I don't care. It doesn't change anything in my life.

My time is mine and I use it as I want. If you're bothered, the exit door is right here. I miss you.

Assassin is fine, you just don't know how to play and build her for your gaming convenience. Very good solution, asking for rework, as if your donating something for them to work on reworking the class. Thats not easy lmao. Again, theres too much wartale in your head. Get some sleep or rest, too much wartale is not good. Ok?

[Diell 951]

4 minutes ago, alternate99 said:

Assassin is fine, you just don't know how to play and build her for your gaming convenience. Very good solution, asking for rework, as if your donating something for them to work on reworking the class. Thats not easy lmao. Again, theres too much wartale in your head. Get some sleep or rest, too much wartale is not good. Ok?

Okay, doctor, thank you very much for the prescription. I will follow it exactly as you said.
Thank you very much for your wonderful advice and for donating your valuable time to help me. I don't even know how to thank you. Any other recommendations?

[PIRADINHO 23]

Usually in Sunken people don't even accept assassins, so it's clear that she needs PVE improvements, I don't play with the class so I don't know exactly what needs to be improved.

[alternate99 49]

28 minutes ago, PIRADINHO said:

Usually in Sunken people don't even accept assassins, so it's clear that she needs PVE improvements, I don't play with the class so I don't know exactly what needs to be improved.

Its not that she is not acceptable in a party in instance. Maybe the party consists of too much melee class already. Its situational, FS BS, KS, Assassin, MS, PS, will compete on the slot. Because a sunken party can run even with just 1 melee tanker, either a knight or mech.

[Diell 951]

34 minutes ago, PIRADINHO said:

Usually in Sunken people don't even accept assassins, so it's clear that she needs PVE improvements, I don't play with the class so I don't know exactly what needs to be improved.

Thank you for sharing your opinion, it helps a lot to reach an analysis.

What you said really happens frequently, I've seen many leaders kick an assassin when she enters the pt and they see that she is an assassin, it happened to me many times too, and others report the same problem. Some even say in the pt chat ''Ass no''.

[intramus12 120]

4 minutes ago, Diell said:

Thank you for sharing your opinion, it helps a lot to reach an analysis.

What you said really happens frequently, I've seen many leaders kick an assassin when she enters the pt and they see that she is an assassin, it happened to me many times too, and others report the same problem. Some even say in the pt chat ''Ass no''.

I'm with you. You build up the community.

[kenibok 1,057]

3 hours ago, Diell said:

Okay, doctor, thank you very much for the prescription. I will follow it exactly as you said.
Thank you very much for your wonderful advice and for donating your valuable time to help me. I don't even know how to thank you. Any other recommendations?

you know people is allowed to not agree with you

[Diell 951]

59 minutes ago, kenibok said:

you know people is allowed to not agree with you

Of course, but it's not the fact that he disagrees with me, he just presented counterpoints and I made some corrections. Instead of continuing the debate on the topic normally and in a healthy way, he came to ridicule not only me but other people who commented on the topic. You don't need to attack anyone just because you want to give your opinion. If you notice, he made several responses to the members here who came to comment. And I made it clear to him that giving his opinion is one thing, but wanting to show off by attacking everyone is another. He didn't keep the debate on the specific topic and started getting personal, saying that I don't know how to play, even though he doesn't even know me, using laughing emoticons and avoiding the point because he has no arguments. I think it was him who didn't accept something here. If he gave an opinion, can't I refute it? Just leave your opinion and don't give in to the subject, and let everyone read it and draw their own conclusions about the topic at hand.
Now, come with jokes and mockery, I already ignore that kind of person.
Now, let it be very clear that no one has to agree with anyone on anything, but know how to approach and talk to people.
Most of the comments are shallow and without any basis. If at least someone who plays or knows the class very well would come and present their considerations.
You do all the work of analysis and someone comes to make reasonable comments like: "it's fine as it is", "the problem is you", "you will be ignored", "you have too much wartale in your head", "unnecessary laughter".
There is a lack of respect for others, that's all.
Now, if you want to validate this kind of person and this behavior, that's your problem. I'm not going to give little hearts to those who come with sticks and stones.
Those who want respect should be respectful.

[moobie1988 1,233]

I think it would be a great Idea to create a Dungeon that would require the composition of a party with diversity. Meaning you can only progress into the depths of the dungeon if you have a certain class in your party or a specific class. Making each class needed to pass an unbeatable enemy to turn  a switch, unlock a door or bridge to progress.  If not a Dungeon maybe a challenge tower where Specific class are required to enter.

[alternate99 49]

2 hours ago, Diell said:

Of course, but it's not the fact that he disagrees with me, he just presented counterpoints and I made some corrections. Instead of continuing the debate on the topic normally and in a healthy way, he came to ridicule not only me but other people who commented on the topic. You don't need to attack anyone just because you want to give your opinion. If you notice, he made several responses to the members here who came to comment. And I made it clear to him that giving his opinion is one thing, but wanting to show off by attacking everyone is another. He didn't keep the debate on the specific topic and started getting personal, saying that I don't know how to play, even though he doesn't even know me, using laughing emoticons and avoiding the point because he has no arguments. I think it was him who didn't accept something here. If he gave an opinion, can't I refute it? Just leave your opinion and don't give in to the subject, and let everyone read it and draw their own conclusions about the topic at hand.
Now, come with jokes and mockery, I already ignore that kind of person.
Now, let it be very clear that no one has to agree with anyone on anything, but know how to approach and talk to people.
Most of the comments are shallow and without any basis. If at least someone who plays or knows the class very well would come and present their considerations.
You do all the work of analysis and someone comes to make reasonable comments like: "it's fine as it is", "the problem is you", "you will be ignored", "you have too much wartale in your head", "unnecessary laughter".
There is a lack of respect for others, that's all.
Now, if you want to validate this kind of person and this behavior, that's your problem. I'm not going to give little hearts to those who come with sticks and stones.
Those who want respect should be respectful.

-1

[Zchaos 49]

4 hours ago, moobie1988 said:

I think it would be a great Idea to create a Dungeon that would require the composition of a party with diversity. Meaning you can only progress into the depths of the dungeon if you have a certain class in your party or a specific class. Making each class needed to pass an unbeatable enemy to turn  a switch, unlock a door or bridge to progress.  If not a Dungeon maybe a challenge tower where Specific class are required to enter.

there are what? about 8000 party composition posibilities? (meth made by chat gpt lol) this is kinda impratical 

[mastellini 343]

40 minutes ago, Zchaos said:

there are what? about 8000 party composition posibilities? (meth made by chat gpt lol) this is kinda impratical 

i think not like that but a queue with tank, killer and healer for exemple similar to battlegrounds

[Diell 951]

10 hours ago, moobie1988 said:

I think it would be a great Idea to create a Dungeon that would require the composition of a party with diversity. Meaning you can only progress into the depths of the dungeon if you have a certain class in your party or a specific class. Making each class needed to pass an unbeatable enemy to turn  a switch, unlock a door or bridge to progress.  If not a Dungeon maybe a challenge tower where Specific class are required to enter.

Hello Mobile, how are you?
I read here on the forum that soon we will have some instance content like Sod and dungeons to go Solo, with less difficulty to be completed.

5 hours ago, mastellini said:

i think not like that but a queue with tank, killer and healer for exemple similar to battlegrounds

Yes, the model will always be this, tanker and vl guaranteed, then the extra buffs like speed, Fon, Hov, mages buff, and always exclude BS Assassin, Fs, pike, which are Melles and do not or do not have buffs to accumulate. It is not only Assassin that suffers from this, it is very rare for them to accept Bs and pike in pts in dungeons too.

If Assassin has a high level, sometimes it is accepted due to the evasion buff, but try to enter with an Ass, Bs or pike level 137 in sunken and you will almost always be removed. Unfortunately, we have a toxic and sick community, all for XP and low team dungeons, and they still think they are amazing and know how to play by putting together more convenient parties. This problem has always existed here because of these people, and it will always exist because it is the Pro players who know everything, and they think that what they do has to be followed equally, otherwise they will always say that you don't know how to play or don't know how to equip yourself, because in reality the problem is their attitudes, and they always want to justify themselves by maintaining the standards they created.
Doing anything outside the standards created by sick players, such as making high team dungeons or giving opportunities to classes, and to the lower level is considered stupidity, people with inverted values cannot be dialogued, because they will always be arrogant, prejudiced and toxic. You can see that people like this usually play in closed groups, because they always want the biggest slice of the pie. For them, it is unacceptable to eat the same amount as everyone else. Ridicule is a way for them to ensure that their plate is always fuller than others, always invalidating any egalitarian idea that some people might want to raise.

Fad players with no opinion of their own, go wherever the herd goes because someone always decides something for them. They usually don't have enough intellect to be independent, so they group together where they are carried and become puppets of people who are stronger and smarter than them.

[kenibok 1,057]

11 hours ago, Diell said:

There is a lack of respect for others, that's all.
Now, if you want to validate this kind of person and this behavior, that's your problem.
Those who want respect should be respectful.

 

I only pointed out 1 thing, rest is your invention, chill

[Diell 951]

9 minutes ago, kenibok said:

 

I only pointed out 1 thing, rest is your invention, chill

Maybe it would be better if you talked about the topic proposed in the thread, which is the purpose here, and didn't want to add fuel to the fire.

If you give your opinion or anyone else gives it, I will respect it, even if I don't have to agree with it.

As you said, people have the right to disagree with you, so the right goes both ways, each one defends their thesis.

Now, if you attack me, I will attack you.

[alternate99 49]

4 hours ago, Diell said:

Maybe it would be better if you talked about the topic proposed in the thread, which is the purpose here, and didn't want to add fuel to the fire.

If you give your opinion or anyone else gives it, I will respect it, even if I don't have to agree with it.

As you said, people have the right to disagree with you, so the right goes both ways, each one defends their thesis.

Now, if you attack me, I will attack you.

Nah you got mad and offended if people dont agree with your fantasy, so soft 😚

Edited September 19, 2024 by alternate99

[Diell 951]

23 minutes ago, alternate99 said:

Nah you got mad and offended if people dont agree with your fantasy, so soft 😚

Neither angry nor offended, if you don't agree with my opinion, that's fine.

Do I have to agree with yours?

Or are you the one who will be angry and offended?

You question that I don't accept opinions and at the same time you don't accept that I don't agree with yours.

The world is big and there are many people in it, maybe some like my fantasy.

Equal suits make a match, only our cards are different.

[alternate99 49]

2 minutes ago, Diell said:

Neither angry nor offended, if you don't agree with my opinion, that's fine.

Do I have to agree with yours?

Or are you the one who will be angry and offended?

You question that I don't accept opinions and at the same time you don't accept that I don't agree with yours.

The world is big and there are many people in it, maybe some like my fantasy.

Equal suits make a match, only our cards are different.

-1 too much work