146 items prices so cheap now why?

[Wushi 216]

In fact, after all that has been said, no one has mentioned how much these level - 146 equipments should be worth and how to evaluate their value. Many items here have been deliberately bid up by merchants. The higher they are speculated, the bigger the bubble. And when the price drops, it will be more tragic. In reality, we can see that this is how typical bubble bursts occur. Therefore, if you want to minimize your losses on the items you buy, you need to buy them at a low price and leave a sufficient margin of safety. If you don't have the ability to accept losses, then don't buy. Essentially, all the investments in this game amount to zero (because you can't get your investment back), so you must have a good mentality. I hope that when new equipments come out next time, you won't pay too high a price.

[ace1 130]

15 minutes ago, Wushi said:

In fact, after all that has been said, no one has mentioned how much these level - 146 equipments should be worth and how to evaluate their value. Many items here have been deliberately bid up by merchants. The higher they are speculated, the bigger the bubble. And when the price drops, it will be more tragic. In reality, we can see that this is how typical bubble bursts occur. Therefore, if you want to minimize your losses on the items you buy, you need to buy them at a low price and leave a sufficient margin of safety. If you don't have the ability to accept losses, then don't buy. Essentially, all the investments in this game amount to zero (because you can't get your investment back), so you must have a good mentality. I hope that when new equipments come out next time, you won't pay too high a price.

"In fact, after all that been said i decided i will simply ignore It ALL and will keep defending my stuff hehehe"

 

I'm waiting for you to say something about selling your account and not playing the game for 1 month and then buying another stronger account that also depreciated paying the same price you got paid for your weaker account 1 month before becoming the new best strategy to get some levels up + better gears + free change class.

 

I want to see you saying this is good and explain why.

[Dior 633]

On 1/20/2025 at 2:13 PM, xkintaro said:

 

It is not perfect, but is not that bad, separate hunt/exp gonna be worst than what we got now a days.

 

Well i don't know how long you play PT.

 

but on main game "ept" it was like that, and it was very well balanced.

 

there were XP Maps for lvl caps, and there were hunting maps for lvl caps also.

 

if XP Pilot camps 24/7 in XP Map, is ok, he gets the reward for XPING the char, and has no chance to drop high level item.

while hunting, gives you little EXP, and some chances to get value items.

+ now we have something we did not have on main server, Caves, going Cave you gain good XP and chance to get SPECIAL items, like Ex-Drill etc..

 

it's like Cars 🙂 you can't have car for everything, there is a 4x4, sports car, family and so on..

you have to switch between them to enjoy haha.

 

same with maps...

 

it is just not fair for XP Pilots to have advantage to get high value items while camping in XP map...

 

imagine the opposite ? if i go hunting, and i gain very high XP ? so let's just begin char 160 and play fully gear +24 all 😛

[xkintaro 1,749]

44 minutes ago, Dior said:

Well i don't know how long you play PT.

 

but on main game "ept" it was like that, and it was very well balanced.

 

there were XP Maps for lvl caps, and there were hunting maps for lvl caps also.

 

if XP Pilot camps 24/7 in XP Map, is ok, he gets the reward for XPING the char, and has no chance to drop high level item.

while hunting, gives you little EXP, and some chances to get value items.

+ now we have something we did not have on main server, Caves, going Cave you gain good XP and chance to get SPECIAL items, like Ex-Drill etc..

 

it's like Cars 🙂 you can't have car for everything, there is a 4x4, sports car, family and so on..

you have to switch between them to enjoy haha.

 

same with maps...

 

it is just not fair for XP Pilots to have advantage to get high value items while camping in XP map...

 

imagine the opposite ? if i go hunting, and i gain very high XP ? so let's just begin char 160 and play fully gear +24 all 😛

 

 

The game evolves. At the time, there was no exp service, because there was no demand or people didn't organize themselves for it in time.

 

Besides, a lot of this remembering that "it used to work, it used to be better" comes from nostalgia, because people have memories of times that will never come back and that they lived in different ways. You are not the same person who played in the EPT era, and you certainly have other obligations and views on many things today, but that does not affect the nostalgic view of the game.

 

You also didn't argue about this, you just stated that it will be better, it doesn't prove that whoever pays for exp service won't have an advantage in a system with 2 maps (exp and up), since he can put his character 24/7 in the service on exp map, while he goes hunting on another character of his.

[Wushi 216]

11 hours ago, ace1 said:

"In fact, after all that been said i decided i will simply ignore It ALL and will keep defending my stuff hehehe"

 

I'm waiting for you to say something about selling your account and not playing the game for 1 month and then buying another stronger account that also depreciated paying the same price you got paid for your weaker account 1 month before becoming the new best strategy to get some levels up + better gears + free change class.

 

I want to see you saying this is good and explain why.

In fact, I don't really care. I've entrusted my two accounts, level 169 and level 166, to a service. Whether there is an increase or decrease doesn't matter to me. I've also bought and sold some accounts. Since I bought them at relatively low prices, I basically didn't lose money when I sold them. Only some equipment resulted in losses, but not much, because the prices I bought them at weren't high, and I didn't buy items with extremely high prices. I think those prices are unreasonable. I pay what I can afford, and if it exceeds my budget, I won't buy it. When 140DNT only costs 4 - 5kc, I don't understand why 146 costs several hundred kc.

[ace1 130]

16 minutes ago, Wushi said:

In fact, I don't really care. I've entrusted my two accounts, level 169 and level 166, to a service.

Just to start, you are showing you are exp service costumer and saying without a shame you don't care about item depreciation, this is awesome.

 

16 minutes ago, Wushi said:

Whether there is an increase or decrease doesn't matter to me. I've also bought and sold some accounts. Since I bought them at relatively low prices, I basically didn't lose money when I sold them. Only some equipment resulted in losses, but not much, because the prices I bought them at weren't high, and I didn't buy items with extremely high prices. I think those prices are unreasonable. I pay what I can afford, and if it exceeds my budget, I won't buy it. When 140DNT only costs 4 - 5kc, I don't understand why 146 costs several hundred kc.

And then you complete It by saying even though you ""don't care"" about depreciation, you bought and sold some accounts in order to defend your good from depreciation and buy other player's deprecreciated goods. This shows clear How much you don't care.

 

Say the true. You want the situation to keep as It is because you are making use of super cheap exp service...

 

😑

Edited January 22 by ace1

[Wushi 216]

13 minutes ago, ace1 said:

Just to start, you are showing you are exp service costumer and saying without a shame you don't care about item depreciation, this is awesome.

 

And then you complete It by saying even though you ""don't care"" about depreciation, you bought and sold some accounts in order to defend your good from depreciation and buy other player's deprecreciated goods. This shows clear How much you don't care.

 

Say the true. You want the situation to keep as It is because you are making use of super cheap exp service...

 

😑

First of all, over the years, I've bought and sold some accounts not for the purpose of making a profit. In fact, I didn't make any profit. I basically sold the accounts at the purchase price, either to friends or members of my clan. I bought these accounts because I had no available accounts to use.

 

Secondly, although the cost I'm paying for account - boosting services is decreasing, it doesn't mean that my accounts aren't depreciating. I know my accounts are losing value, but I can accept it. If I couldn't, I would sell them early to minimize my losses.

 

So, I don't understand what you're talking about.

10 minutes ago, Wushi said:

First of all, over the years, I've bought and sold some accounts not for the purpose of making a profit. In fact, I didn't make any profit. I basically sold the accounts at the purchase price, either to friends or members of my clan. I bought these accounts because I had no available accounts to use.

 

Secondly, although the cost I'm paying for account - boosting services is decreasing, it doesn't mean that my accounts aren't depreciating. I know my accounts are losing value, but I can accept it. If I couldn't, I would sell them early to minimize my losses.

 

So, I don't understand what you're talking about.

However, I can indeed understand that the process of deflation is extremely tough, as all prices are falling. I'm just offering a friendly reminder that if you buy anything during a bubble, the potential losses could be substantial. Therefore, you need to have your own valuation system and a good mindset, and make purchases at a price that is relatively reasonable for you.

[Dookie 489]

On 1/20/2025 at 6:33 PM, Hawaii2 said:

Yes bro, but relax mode.

Afk more than I play it.

haha you were always AFK. damn, let me  borrow season sometimes!

[Hawaii2 615]

11 hours ago, Dookie said:

haha you were always AFK. damn, let me  borrow season sometimes!

Anytime bro, just give me a text. 

[[email protected] 1]

On 1/11/2025 at 9:31 PM, xkintaro said:

i have a 4th suggestion, account price to much low too, remove rebirth scroll and when the char die, erase the char, create anoter, also ill help more ppl on low level maps.

 

The stupidest comment that I've read, people will q-uit immediately if they do that.

Edited January 30 by [email protected]

[drfencer 5]

stop crying and start stopping making the entire game hate you and therefore the pvp dies. jzzy talks about a thousand reasons why there is no pvp but he doesn't talk about the number of times he has destroyed/abandoned clans. be serious and start doing things right

[ik3r 895]

HF make the price descrease.

 

They need remove itens drop in EASY mode to party lvl + then X.

 

Something like pt with party lvl

 

152~160 : 146/148 drop in easy med hard

160~165: 146/148 drop in med hard

165+ only hard

 

i think i have 100 HF runs, i got 4 itens 146/148 all in easy runs  ( 1 from monster drop) thats to easy and broke the market (1run = 25/30min max)

[TadsK 48]

This is normal in every MMORPG, prices are dependent on supply and demand as well as cost of upgrades (aging/mixing)

 

It is only normal for item prices to come down since more people are at the level where they can drop them more often (more supply) and there are not an influx of new players in the server (lower demand).

 

So as more and more people stop playing and try to sell their items and the people that stay already own these items, their price will decrease.

 

The best way to maintain the prices in an MMORPG is make sure the influx of new players keep demand high and follow the progression of the supply. If you try to control on the supply side (very very low drops), player experience is hindered and you risk more players leaving the game, which makes things worse.

 

The people that want the newer and better items before everyone else will always pay the premium and then prices tend to come down, that is natural.

[PIRADINHO 24]

This line of items is over and there is no solution, trying to find someone to blame won't help now... it's over! Let's wait for the next line and everything will go well again.

[xkintaro 1,749]

Just for the record, before you take the suggestions seriously, it was just a joke lol

 

suggestions are in the suggestions area, this topic has already become a mess and madness.