skill balance

[menslip 57]

You guys are complaining about bs fs ata being too strong remember relics and items have big part to do with it......Go invest in items and relics and you too can be strong. Its not just the class but items relics have really big part to do with it @Support please take that into consideration as skill balance happens many of us pay lots of money in game for these items and relics because we want to be strong so we invest.....just cuz some low lvl cant kill an ata because we use health build and can kill and tank with our items gemmed and relics doesnt mean nerf them

[FluppyGM 131]

It will be nerfed now, and in the next patch as well. This is NERFtale. PRS and MG will be the next MS, two more soon-to-be-useless classes. ATA, AS, and BS will also be nerfed. People complain too much, and they nerf it.

 

It's so ridiculous that we've reached a point where the characters are so disgustingly weak, that in the last patch, the monsters were nerfed because the characters su.ck now.

Whatever, bring more skins, mounts and minions please, these are definitely more important.

Edited March 6 by FluppyGM

[poosh1 207]

No sense topic, when we talk about balance it's considering same items/relics.

Let 1 BS/FS/ATA vs any other class, same items

see what happens

Imagine 1 BS vs 1 MS?
1 Ata vs 1 AS?
1 FS vs 1 MG?
it's super obvious who wins.

[Wushi 265]

Nerf all gogogo 

[ace1 180]

I think the most consistent data to detect and also measure "unbalance" is class domination/presence amongst diff level ranges. I wish we had overall more ranking data and ranking filters such as per-level ranking like 14x rank 15x rank etc...

 

We have 11 classes, in a 'perfect balance' scenario, all the classes have the same ranking presence (9.09%) in diff/all level ranges such as 10x 11x 12x 13x etc till 17x. In any level range, ALL classes will have 9.09% ranking presence, this is the definition of 'perfect balance' and this should be our final goal.

 

Whenever we see 'x' class is with 16%+ ranking presence its 100% safe to say this class is out of the Edge (boosted) or some other 'y' class is out of the Edge (nerfed) and the 'x' class is filling the Gap.

 

The most visible case we have nowadays/recently, is with super weak MS with 5%- ranking presence and bug-boosted mgs with 15%+ rank presence in 15x+.

To fix this we should not only boost MS and fix MGS, but also wee need watch how rankings will look like after that, maybe MS needs a lil bit more buff, or maybe It was buffed way too much, etc... Every single changes in game be It in the class itself or in monsters, maps etc, WILL be translated to ranking dominance, and OP classes will ALWAYS dominate rankings while weak classes will ALWAYS vanish from It.

 

If we have a Common and clear final goal that can be seen and is agreed by everyone, then a final and perfect balance is definitely possible. But If we simply fire buffs and nerfs based in player's cry It will ALWAYS fail.

 

Just a final note:

i strongly believe classes and items must NEVER be nerfed, unless its bugged, then it should be fixed. We should AWAYS work towards buffing weak classes and If needed, buffing monsters (to indirectly "nerf" x/y classes in a/b level ranges with more precison)

 

Hope this is useful... 🙏

 

 

 

[Mjizzy_7 1,944]

The only Class that need Nerf is Bs. This class is broken  and is abused by many Noobs. 
Facts
****storm in 3 2 1 
Go 💣😎 

Edited March 7 by Mjizzy_7

[Muka 34]

5 minutes ago, Mjizzy_7 said:

A única classe que precisa de Nerf é Bs. Esta classe está quebrada e abusada por muitos Noobs. 
Fatos
****storm em 3 2 1 
Go  💣 😎 

good argument

[menslip 57]

On 3/7/2025 at 4:49 AM, Mjizzy_7 said:

The only Class that need Nerf is Bs. This class is broken  and is abused by many Noobs. 
Facts
****storm in 3 2 1 
Go 💣😎 

+1

[SheT 75]

 

😭 , nerf ks ata fs ps , nerf all

Edited March 9 by SheT