Market new meta be careful!!!

[mastellini 443]

Since in recent days we've had cases where selling items dozens of times over their value and this pratice doesn't generate any kind of punishment, on the other hand this kind of misconduct will be increasingly common, so for the community that is still decent, beware the scammers are on the loose!

[Support 4,406]

Hello,

 

Thanks for taking your time to increase community awareness.

However, if the 750 coins amount is not equal to 75kk gold or far off, you should make a report in Report User section because this will be deem as an attempt to scam.

 

Best Regards,

 

Support Team

[xkintaro 1,810]

Since "human error" is not something the server cares about anymore, we will have new categories of people trying to cheat the server's players.

 

This has opened the door for all kinds of bad players to try to cheat and take advantage of others.

 

Could he have gotten the price wrong? He could, but he will be the first of many who will get it wrong for more, trying to take advantage.

[maniac10 25]

It's high time we had a market in the game that aggregated all the items sold at a single NPC, it would solve a lot of problems...

[IcaCorazon 11]

I consider that it is no longer necessary to make a report in the correct section since you are seeing the evidence and doing nothing, just wait for them to make a correct report to then act, this makes it easier for bad players to do the same because many do not know how to report correctly but they have evidence of scams and their poorly made reports come to nothing and, they are scammed for not knowing a good report in the correct section, but the evidence is in photos and you are seeing, it should be a little more accessible and by criteria investigate and ban these abusers 

[mastellini 443]

2 minutes ago, IcaCorazon said:

I consider that it is no longer necessary to make a report in the correct section since you are seeing the evidence and doing nothing, just wait for them to make a correct report to then act, this makes it easier for bad players to do the same because many do not know how to report correctly but they have evidence of scams and their poorly made reports come to nothing and, they are scammed for not knowing a good report in the correct section, but the evidence is in photos and you are seeing, it should be a little more accessible and by criteria investigate and ban these abusers 

this is a warning to the community about this practice, which has become common in recent days

[Support 4,406]

Hello,

 

39 minutes ago, IcaCorazon said:

I consider that it is no longer necessary to make a report in the correct section since you are seeing the evidence and doing nothing, just wait for them to make a correct report to then act, this makes it easier for bad players to do the same because many do not know how to report correctly but they have evidence of scams and their poorly made reports come to nothing and, they are scammed for not knowing a good report in the correct section, but the evidence is in photos and you are seeing, it should be a little more accessible and by criteria investigate and ban these abusers 

We appreciate your input. However, please be advised that each forum section is designed and managed by distinct teams. Our capacity to view all sections does not equate to consolidated action.

 

Each support section is governed by its own guide, which reporters are required to adhere to, in order to ensure the capture of all pertinent information for case processing. Furthermore, the report section is maintained as private to safeguard the reporter's anonymity.

 

With regard to this particular case, we are unable to treat it as a formal report due to the following:

• We cannot determine the equivalence between 750 coins and 75kk gold, nor do we know in-game market prices, unless an anomaly is too obvious.
• This isn't a report and it is made in public for warning purpose only.

 

We hope this explanation clarifies why we request posts be made in specific sections, rather than taking immediate action.

 

Best Regards,

 

Support Team

[ace1 171]

25 minutes ago, Support said:

Hello,

 

Thanks for taking your time to increase community awareness.

However, if the 750 coins amount is not equal to 75kk gold or far off, you should make a report in Report User section because this will be deem as an attempt to scam.

 

Best Regards,

 

Support Team

[starbuck 26]

 

@Support

 

To be honest, i honestly dont see a problem with this players shop. Its the players shop, the players prices. The player can sell anything for any amount, its a marketplace and the shop owner can put whatever prices he likes.

 

People think its a scam because they know the real value of the item, and when they see someone trying to sell it for way more amounts they think its a scam ( it very may well be one)  but at the end of the day its the players shop and he can sell any item for any price ....

 

Its the players responsibility to look at the prices before buying items. I dont get how people are still strugging to look at the screen and see what they are buying its not difficult. 

 

 

Edited March 25 by starbuck
edit

[Gu 168]

1 hour ago, starbuck said:

 

@Support

 

To be honest, i honestly dont see a problem with this players shop. Its the players shop, the players prices. The player can sell anything for any amount, its a marketplace and the shop owner can put whatever prices he likes.

 

People think its a scam because they know the real value of the item, and when they see someone trying to sell it for way more amounts they think its a scam ( it very may well be one)  but at the end of the day its the players shop and he can sell any item for any price ....

 

Its the players responsibility to look at the prices before buying items. I dont get how people are still strugging to look at the screen and see what they are buying its not difficult. 

 

 

i agree, and when someone give u an ofert low for an item... we can report as well ?ofc not

 

Edited March 25 by Gu

[ace1 171]

2 hours ago, starbuck said:

 

@Support

 

To be honest, i honestly dont see a problem with this players shop. Its the players shop, the players prices. The player can sell anything for any amount, its a marketplace and the shop owner can put whatever prices he likes.

 

People think its a scam because they know the real value of the item, and when they see someone trying to sell it for way more amounts they think its a scam ( it very may well be one)  but at the end of the day its the players shop and he can sell any item for any price ....

 

Its the players responsibility to look at the prices before buying items. I dont get how people are still strugging to look at the screen and see what they are buying its not difficult. 

 

 

 

bro is trying to sell item for 75kk (avarage praticed price)

AND

for 750c (that converted (500kk = 600c) 750c = 625kk (833% higher than avarage price)

 

> and you conclude there is no scamming attempt here? that players are free to do this and there is nothing wrong with something like this?

> if yourself end up paying 750c would feel happy? or would you reverse the trascantion if you had option to so?

👀

2 hours ago, Gu said:

i agree, and when someone give u an ofert low for an item... we can report as well ?ofc not

 

i understand your logic, once something on sale is literally an offert from the seller to the possible buyer.

> The point it is only a scam case AFTER someone paid the incorrect price and someone took advantage of what before, was mere human error.

 

We can consider 75kk was ok price, and 750c human error. But in case someone pays 750c and the seller player refuses to give 750c back, it becomes a scam case.

 

The same would then teorically apply in case someone gives you ridiculously low offer for your account, that is, less than 20% it's avarage price.

> if someone offers you 10kc for 100kc account, this is considered "human error" so far, because he didn't made profit from it.

> If you accept this riduculous offer (that is, you didn't notice it was 10kc and not 100kc), you are now committing human error too, but the seller made profit from your human error, hence this is now a scam case (in case the seller refuses to fix the situation).

[xkintaro 1,810]

 

on this suggestion we have a good way to avoid this problem, please read and +1 if you like/agree

[Wushi 262]

7 hours ago, starbuck said:

 

@Support

 

To be honest, i honestly dont see a problem with this players shop. Its the players shop, the players prices. The player can sell anything for any amount, its a marketplace and the shop owner can put whatever prices he likes.

 

People think its a scam because they know the real value of the item, and when they see someone trying to sell it for way more amounts they think its a scam ( it very may well be one)  but at the end of the day its the players shop and he can sell any item for any price ....

 

Its the players responsibility to look at the prices before buying items. I dont get how people are still strugging to look at the screen and see what they are buying its not difficult. 

 

 

 

Indeed, that's true. For GM-SUPPORT, being involved in value judgments is  difficult and would significantly increase their workload. Recently, some players have suggested that when purchasing an item, they should be required to manually enter the corresponding amount. This approach would greatly reduce the probability of errors.

In fact, as players, we should take responsibility for our own actions rather than relying solely on GM assistance. Although I do believe that the previous two cases might involve fraud, I also acknowledge that players have the right to enter any price they choose. Therefore, I strongly support the adoption of this player's suggestion.

 

3 hours ago, xkintaro said:

 

on this suggestion we have a good way to avoid this problem, please read and +1 if you like/agree

 

Edited March 25 by Wushi

[mastellini 443]

8 hours ago, ace1 said:

bro is trying to sell item for 75kk (avarage praticed price)

AND

for 750c (that converted (500kk = 600c) 750c = 625kk (833% higher than avarage price)

 

8 hours ago, ace1 said:

> and you conclude there is no scamming attempt here? that players are free to do this and there is nothing wrong with something like this?

> if yourself end up paying 750c would feel happy? or would you reverse the trascantion if you had option to so?

 

8 hours ago, ace1 said:

We can consider 75kk was ok price, and 750c human error. But in case someone pays 750c and the seller player refuses to give 750c back, it becomes a scam case.

Yes!! I cant undertand some people that defends this "free market".

[starbuck 26]

10 hours ago, ace1 said:

 

bro is trying to sell item for 75kk (avarage praticed price)

AND

for 750c (that converted (500kk = 600c) 750c = 625kk (833% higher than avarage price)

 

> and you conclude there is no scamming attempt here? that players are free to do this and there is nothing wrong with something like this?

> if yourself end up paying 750c would feel happy? or would you reverse the trascantion if you had option to so?

👀

 

i understand your logic, once something on sale is literally an offert from the seller to the possible buyer.

> The point it is only a scam case AFTER someone paid the incorrect price and someone took advantage of what before, was mere human error.

 

We can consider 75kk was ok price, and 750c human error. But in case someone pays 750c and the seller player refuses to give 750c back, it becomes a scam case.

 

The same would then teorically apply in case someone gives you ridiculously low offer for your account, that is, less than 20% it's avarage price.

> if someone offers you 10kc for 100kc account, this is considered "human error" so far, because he didn't made profit from it.

> If you accept this riduculous offer (that is, you didn't notice it was 10kc and not 100kc), you are now committing human error too, but the seller made profit from your human error, hence this is now a scam case (in case the seller refuses to fix the situation).

 

 

He placed a price for the item in gold, and he placed a price for the item in coins. He is fully allowed to do so. To me, the player is playing within the rules of the game. 

 

 

I get it is a scam, but we cannot police these people because its a marketplace and people can put any price Of any amount they would like ( even for this situation where they want 75kk gold and 750c coin its the players shop he picks the prices. You cant expect @Support to police these marketplace transactions.

 

I really think its a bad idea to get involved with a players ability to set price amounts for the items they are selling... 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[MrGreen 115]

Again... The store owner have rights what he wants the pricing of his stuffs... So if u think his stuff is op DONT BUY IT, thats simple

[MrGreen 115]

14 hours ago, starbuck said:

 

@Support

 

To be honest, i honestly dont see a problem with this players shop. Its the players shop, the players prices. The player can sell anything for any amount, its a marketplace and the shop owner can put whatever prices he likes.

 

People think its a scam because they know the real value of the item, and when they see someone trying to sell it for way more amounts they think its a scam ( it very may well be one)  but at the end of the day its the players shop and he can sell any item for any price ....

 

Its the players responsibility to look at the prices before buying items. I dont get how people are still strugging to look at the screen and see what they are buying its not difficult. 

 

 

Best comment.. if u dont want to buy, dont buy it... Thats simple... Thats store owner rights...dont blame others, when its ur fault

Edited March 25 by MrGreen

[ace1 171]

26 minutes ago, starbuck said:

To me, the player is playing within the rules of the game. 

 

hence rules needs updates over time as new cases appears. specially when change rule demmand comes from a case someone wants to pay smarty, rule need be changed instantly to not let the smarty boy pass, so everyone understands that the #1 rule that speaks louders over all other rules is the "good sense rule" and even if someone finds "weakness" in the rules it will lead to absolutely nothing but a ban, and not to making a profit from it.

 

26 minutes ago, starbuck said:

 

I really think its a bad idea to get involved with a players ability to set price amounts for the items they are selling... 

 

it should only happen when it's used to deceive other, make profit from it, etc (bad faith overall)... It's same logic staff doesn't involve with what player posts in game chat, unless RMT and divulgation of concurrent servers (cases the game feature is used against the game itself or against game's community).

 

Edited March 25 by ace1

[???????? 52]

I found one too, phillia mars near respawning.

 

 

 

The Evolution of Wartale: 💪

 

People doing this, be like:

Clown and Joker world, worshipping the great God of Scam🤡

 

This is me:

I love Wartale, I wana watch the world burn 🔥

 

 

 

Edit:

in case people don't get this.

Spoiler

 

The Inferna one is just copy the Jera's scam method, because GM don't punish, and don't restore, so it's ok to do so, because we all know 500,000,000 looks similar to 500,000, when your tired and your eyes trick you.

 

The V-key one is also copying the L-key scam method, but because GM punish 60kc, but not 6kc, so he put V-key at 750c, because if he put V-key as 75kc, he will get punished, and get restored.

All of them are playing around with the law.

That's why I love Wartale.

 

 

 

Edited March 26 by ????????