lacerz 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2011 Hey Guys, Ive seen it come up in several topics. I want to collect the thoughts here. Its obvious that VL is bugged. It has been tested and the conclusion right now is.. VL is friggin useless. I think its one of the skills that makes PRS what they are. Without this skill i think, the PRS class isnt what it should be. Any reply from a admin/gm/mod would be very usefull. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMDias 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2011 What is the bug ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edgardo 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2011 Well, It seems you came from other server/planet. Let's settle down. You asked for an official word, so here it is: Patch 3208 Find out the reasons: http://www.realmpt.net/forum/index.php?topic=43177.0 I didn't find other topic, but that's because I'm lazy. All the discussion on this matter happened around july 1 -15 - ish. Good luck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
suesue 234 Report post Posted November 22, 2011 actually, vl is not bug. VL is not useless in bc, just hidden status removed( abs, def, evade). In the past, you just can recast vl until vl is gone and now, you can recast vl everytime. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lacerz 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2011 I didnt know there was a official word from the admins srry about that. I started playing this server a few weeks ago. So what u guys try to say, VL is usefull after all? this is one of the things i meant. Well I'll be damned. I did a test just now, 10 mini potions both with and without VL, using otherwise identical equipment and removing rings and sheltoms to minimize the natural regeneration. The measurements may be off by a point or two because of it, but it shouldn't have a significant impact on the results. The health was never maxed from a potion, so the numbers are the health that was actually given per potion. With VL: 256, 142, 190, 179, 178, 240, 204, 230, 248, 218 - Average of 208.5 average (195 expected), range 178-256 (expected 130-260) Without VL: 178, 139, 194, 132, 114, 108, 168, 165, 151, 137 - Average of 148.6 average (150 expected), range 108-194 (expected 100-200) Seems pretty safe to conclude that VL does in fact have an effect. There are not enough samples to verify that it is exactly 30% more, but it is likely pretty close. See my point? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crius 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2011 Whether the potions heal more or not is not a big deal either way, it's the damage you take that is. Might want to read this thread (and this a bit further down if you want to follow it from the start). Last I heard, it's been acknowledged but not fixed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lacerz 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2011 Yeah, thats what i mean. With VL, your pots give more health. This is the same for DMG. With VL, the mobs take more HP each hit. For example (random numbers) If a monster hits you for 100HP without VL, when you put VL on it hits you for 130HP, thus making VL useless... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonberry 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2011 hidden abs were in VL and it was removed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crius 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2011 Which is not the issue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lacerz 0 Report post Posted November 23, 2011 Im not talking about any hidden absorb.. Im talking about the fact that VL increases monster dmg with the same % as it adds hp. This would make it useless Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bellum1234 0 Report post Posted November 23, 2011 An old problem and still no responds from the staff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xandrax 0 Report post Posted November 23, 2011 Unfortunately, all the best of the VL is no more ..... Doing what, huh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
taxero 1 Report post Posted November 24, 2011 Try to not use VL in r8 in sod and u tell me ??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ryoko 0 Report post Posted November 24, 2011 Try to not use VL in r8 in sod and u tell me ??? Better without it. Seems that they put another hidden bonus, -10% abs or something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bellum1234 0 Report post Posted November 24, 2011 Better without it. sad but true Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Setsuna 0 Report post Posted November 24, 2011 This is probably just your imagination. Im not 100% sure but if it's realy +30% more damage taken (and in my tests it was) you shouldn't notice any difference at all. Use it if you like the animation . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zero 0 Report post Posted November 24, 2011 The problem was they removed the damage reduce bonus [there were other bonuses but that was the big thing] to balance classes better. The problem seems to be they didn't set it to 0 [thus removing all other effects entirely], but just did the opposite and now its +30% damage. All the patches were meant to do was make VL add just HP with no other hidden effects, so its something to fix in the future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crius 0 Report post Posted November 24, 2011 That doesn't explain why potions recover more HP with VL though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
taxero 1 Report post Posted November 26, 2011 Is a Psicologic!! Lol! : Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xandrax 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2011 This is a slutty bitch with Sacer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
taxero 1 Report post Posted December 1, 2011 better whit Vl whitout him! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xandrax 0 Report post Posted December 5, 2011 Well ... I and fellow Party, do not live or survive without VL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites