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SkaY[James]

Server impossible to up, without xp service since to level 128, map ad2 dominated for xp service in all spawns.

something must be done.

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Keshy

FT2 have too -..-'

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L

Adde told me they'd find a way to stop those xpers, but nothing yet

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Quant

I rather they dominate exP map than ET3 8)

 

Hunting is much funner than exping  8)

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Ryoko

Wartale screwed the server with this exp service.

There's no more fun in rpt. I call my friends to play here, but they don't want to waste money in the game, all of them quitted in less than 2 weeks.

This became a elitist server.

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Syko

This became a elitist server.

 

That is so true. You can't get anywhere on here unless your an uber high lvl.

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Tonberry

I rather they dominate exP map than ET3 8)

 

Hunting boss is much funner than exping  8)

 

;D

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Melocrie

Don't blame Wartale for the exp service rage, you think he's happy with it?

 

 

Syko, depends on where you wanna get. I'll be more than happy when I'm 124, can hunt in ET3 together with my friends, do sod, be a loser at bc though having fun. Sure I wanna 13x too, but why miss out on the fun I can have right now than sulking about things far off?

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Tonberry
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Server impossible to up, without xp service since to level 128, map ad2 dominated for xp service in all spawns.

something must be done.

 

possible. but you have to a find GOOD SPAWN TO XP AT

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BiDa

This became a elitist server.

 

I haven't donated 10 cents of an euro yet and I'm 129.

I stopped exping when I was 120.

Since then I've been hunting and using that money for exp service.

 

OFC if I had donated I'd be full 124 with a 13x char but I've managed to get where I am by myself and the help of my clannies. (No, they didn't give me coins)

 

Just work your way to the top and try to beat all those others...

 

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Ryoko

This became a elitist server.

 

I haven't donated 10 cents of an euro yet and I'm 129.

I stopped exping when I was 120.

Since then I've been hunting and using that money for exp service.

 

OFC if I had donated I'd be full 124 with a 13x char but I've managed to get where I am by myself and the help of my clannies. (No, they didn't give me coins)

 

Just work your way to the top and try to beat all those others...

Let me ask you, 129 is something on this server now ? And that's not only about level, level is just a part of it, you also have items, who in this server that haven't donated is full 124 ? I'll answer this for you, no one. But I'll keep the topic complaining about the level problem, the server have to profit in some way anyway.

Btw, I haven't donated 1 cent and I'm 133, almost 134.

I know what I'm talking here, in the past we could find a good spot to level but now... puff, impossible.

I did 80% lvling in ad1,ft2 and noobs maps like these (level 133), while who pay for those expers get the best exp possible, do you think this is fair ? Ya, me neither.

 

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Server impossible to up, without xp service since to level 128, map ad2 dominated for xp service in all spawns.

something must be done.

 

possible. but you have to a find GOOD SPAWN TO XP AT

That's the point, there's no good spawn, just take a look at ad2, you'll only see leechers and 1 person killing there, that's bs.

 

Don't blame Wartale for the exp service rage, you think he's happy with it?

Well, this is his server, right ? So he let this shit happen. You can stop the exp service, you just gotta to want it.

Many suggestions were already given, but no action were taken. That's what we want, an action.

Guys, take a look at the level ranking, how many of those players there didn't buy exp service ? That's what I call elitist.

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Gogg

EXP service wasn't supported at all, wasn't even "legal"

 

It was not EVEN allowed to POST about it

 

Then, tolerance... you could get exp service, but no support... no posting aswell...

 

Then... exp service paid with donation... posts allowed, support... all this blablabla

 

 

This server was funny when it was made by players. Now you just see people who pay for chars, thse are not players.

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Zero

This server was funny when it was made by players. Now you just see people who pay for chars, thse are not players.

 

Agreed, I gave up trying to level because I don't have enough time to compete with exp service users. There would only be a handful of 130+ if people had to do everything themselves.

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[S]IL

Those exp agent help maintaining the server ! If you don't want so see them anymore then donate for server like hell so that you can keep playing ! ^^ !

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-BLiiND-

Those exp agent help maintaining the server ! If you don't want so see them anymore then donate for server like hell so that you can keep playing ! ^^ !

 

wow. realy a discrimination over a non donating player.. well done Moderator sir -.-" sandurr ddnt even tried to tell this things .. and yet.. ur here.. lol

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Zero

Those exp agent help maintaining the server ! If you don't want so see them anymore then donate for server like hell so that you can keep playing ! ^^ !

 

wow. realy a discrimination over a non donating player.. well done Moderator sir -.-" sandurr ddnt even tried to tell this things .. and yet.. ur here.. lol

 

At the end of the day he is right that donators keep the server alive. The disagreements come in with how much donators should benefit over non-donators. Its not like free to play games don't have cash shops with benefits, but I don't see many that allow you to essentially buy levels.

 

And to add to that, not everyone buys exp agents using donations, a portion of them use gold and/or items.

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[S]IL

Those exp agent help maintaining the server ! If you don't want so see them anymore then donate for server like hell so that you can keep playing ! ^^ !

 

wow. realy a discrimination over a non donating player.. well done Moderator sir -.-" sandurr ddnt even tried to tell this things .. and yet.. ur here.. lol

 

At the end of the day he is right that donators keep the server alive. The disagreements come in with how much donators should benefit over non-donators. Its not like free to play games don't have cash shops with benefits, but I don't see many that allow you to essentially buy levels.

 

And to add to that, not everyone buys exp agents using donations, a portion of them use gold and/or items.

I didn't mean anything about discrimination over a non donating player, there are some realistic you should know,wthas run by a group of people (and most of them are students), obviously they won't be able to make much money in order to satisfy your joys ! Why do you want people sacrifices for you without paying back ? oh yes ! You guys have a right point ! EXP agents took almost every spawns in exp map ! But we must find another solution, not just make something to disappear for your own and selfish good ! As I said, if you don't want exp agent do their work and help maintaining the server, you must roll in and take action. I still keep my idea in words of a moderator without any conflict ! Thanks for considering !

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SkPunker

No Money =quit game ok? its the best asnwer.

cuz if u cant xping in ad2  /ft2

u need to post in  topic of xp service and  pay to him to lvl up ur acc.( ofc if u want more than  lvl 128.) >.<

 

 

pd : i hate xp service too.

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Zero

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I didn't mean anything about discrimination over a non donating player, there are some realistic you should know,wthas run by a group of people (and most of them are students), obviously they won't be able to make much money in order to satisfy your joys ! Why do you want people sacrifices for you without paying back ? oh yes ! You guys have a right point ! EXP agents took almost every spawns in exp map ! But we must find another solution, not just make something to disappear for your own and selfish good ! As I said, if you don't want exp agent do their work and help maintaining the server, you must roll in and take action. I still keep my idea in words of a moderator without any conflict ! Thanks for considering !

 

Your putting an awful lot of words in my mouth here. For one, I didn't even mention it was discrimination and agreed that donators had to be given benefits. Your not addressing the point I brought up here, which is how much or what donators should be given for their money. It doesn't have to be free levels, in fact, no game I've played can I name where that has been done. It varies from all games, some games only offer aesthetic appeals like costumes, while others provide minimal benefits [like exp potions], or others allow you to buy actual items [weapons, armors, etc.]. There are all kinds of ways you can be rewarded for paying for a game.

 

Let me make it clear no one is debating that donators should have all benefits taken away and do it purely out of good will, we're not that naive. We're not asking for sacrifices without payment, we're simply asking about whether or not there is appropriate balance for what the donators give. FYI I have donated once before.

 

You also failed to address my other point, about how the people who use items or gold instead of donations to buy their exp service help the server. You can argue they might've gotten it through donations, but for sure that won't always be the case and those are the people I'm talking about. How do they help the server?

 

BiDa's statement is a perfect example of what we're talking about how the server is becoming.

 

You're making the argument that exp service is absolutely vital, that without it, the server will definitely fail. For one, exp service wasn't even always around [at least legally as gogg pointed out], so we've done without it before and been fine. Second, to make that argument, you would need to prove that without the % of donations that come from exp service that you do not meet server upkeep costs. I highly doubt you have access to that information as a mod, and I'm pretty sure sandurr either keeps the server's financial information to himself or in a very tight-lipped circle.

 

You have valid points, but if you just reiterate your initial statement, ignore the other points that I brought up, and proceed to call me selfish for it, it's hard to believe we're being taken seriously.

 

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I didn't mean anything about discrimination over a non donating player, there are some realistic you should know,wthas run by a group of people (and most of them are students), obviously they won't be able to make much money in order to satisfy your joys ! Why do you want people sacrifices for you without paying back ? oh yes ! You guys have a right point ! EXP agents took almost every spawns in exp map ! But we must find another solution, not just make something to disappear for your own and selfish good ! As I said, if you don't want exp agent do their work and help maintaining the server, you must roll in and take action. I still keep my idea in words of a moderator without any conflict ! Thanks for considering !

 

Your putting an awful lot of words in my mouth here. For one, I didn't even mention it was discrimination and agreed that donators had to be given benefits. Your not addressing the point I brought up here, which is how much or what donators should be given for their money. It doesn't have to be free levels, in fact, no game I've played can I name where that has been done. It varies from all games, some games only offer aesthetic appeals like costumes, while others provide minimal benefits [like exp potions], or others allow you to buy actual items [weapons, armors, etc.]. There are all kinds of ways you can be rewarded for paying for a game.

 

Let me make it clear no one is debating that donators should have all benefits taken away and do it purely out of good will, we're not that naive. We're not asking for sacrifices without payment, we're simply asking about whether or not there is appropriate balance for what the donators give. FYI I have donated once before.

 

You also failed to address my other point, about how the people who use items or gold instead of donations to buy their exp service help the server. You can argue they might've gotten it through donations, but for sure that won't always be the case and those are the people I'm talking about. How do they help the server?

 

BiDa's statement is a perfect example of what we're talking about how the server is becoming.

 

You're making the argument that exp service is absolutely vital, that without it, the server will definitely fail. For one, exp service wasn't even always around [at least legally as gogg pointed out], so we've done without it before and been fine. Second, to make that argument, you would need to prove that without the % of donations that come from exp service that you do not meet server upkeep costs. I highly doubt you have access to that information as a mod, and I'm pretty sure sandurr either keeps the server's financial information to himself or in a very tight-lipped circle.

 

You have valid points, but if you just reiterate your initial statement, ignore the other points that I brought up, and proceed to call me selfish for it, it's hard to believe we're being taken seriously.

I have not ever disagreed or argued about your points ! I just made clear about -Blind- said I put some discrimination about donator and non-donator.

Secondly, I have never said without exp service, the server will fall ! I just said exp service help maintaining our server, not "build", or "cover". And another point that -Blind- pulled out : he want to stop exp service ! Then I said "If we don't want to see exp service anymore, we must increase the donate rate (which is donate like hell), in order to help maintaining the server, all the thing you got (new gears, new maps, new quests, new skin, Server has paid for all of them) and where the money came from ?

Overall, zero, I totally agree that exp service must be balanced so that online game can be online game ! I've never argue ANYTHING AT ALL about your points !

Oh and btw ! I misquoted in the previous statement :) ! I meant to quote -BliinD-, not you :)) Sorry for that !

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