Weapon Status Imbalance

[elk24 0]

  On 12/28/2011 at 3:17 PM, Gogg said:

Mechs got the lowest damage of all meeles, with Maximize still lower than knights, GS is a lot weaker than AC, GC or CL, but I still manage to hitkill people way more often than other meeles with their spammable 1vs1 skill.

 

If something that got all to be lowest isn't the lowest, what is that?

 

LOL where do you get that info about GS attack rating? Please tell me you saw that ingame on a mech and not on the website.

 

Oh, and sorry, we don't like temporary nerfing to balace something until bugs are fixed. I don't remember any of you asking for a temporary boost when mechs were totally useless for over an year. Suck it up now. When they were bad nobody cares about bug fixing, now everyone hope for that. Go on and make it happen then, FIXING and not NERFING.

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so your whole point is keep mech OP because u are a mech? looooool thx dude loolol i haven;t laughed this hard at something on rpt fourms for a while [move][glow=red,2,300]TROLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL[/glow][/move]

 

also lolz lowest of everything... name one other class that isnt effect roar and ice and can tank 10 people at BC at once. This isnt a problem with me because thats what a mech is suppose to do, but like u said urself Mechs are killing way to often and is still able to tank...

 

and yes i did read the GS skills stats off the web ^^ and like 99% of the information there its all accurate expect for a few recent patch so yea I think its 400 unless i see other wise in game.

 

[[D]ohkito 2]

I'm not a mech, and don't think that they are O.P. Mechs can do a DMG way high that they ''should'' do but, their abs tank way less that should tank.

[Gogg 3]

Let me try to explain better, because it seems these lazy idiots don't know how to read properly.

 

Mechs got 4 different builds

2 of them, tanker and power, are the most used and the main target of all complainments, against or not, of the class.

 

Complainments of people who don't know anything about mechs onwtand just want to screw them:

- Mech tank too much and kill too much.

So what people love to request? Nerf them.

 

Now, the real thing, what's the complain of mech players:

- Mech is all bugged.

What do we want? Fixing!

 

 

Mechs don't tank AND kill too much. They tank OR they kill.

 

Now, to the problems. Mechs got the lowest damage of all meeles, with or without Maximize. But with Maximize they kill too much, way more than it should be possible, considering the damage. Without Maximize they hit nothing, do no damage.

 

Why is that happening? An attack buff skill weaker than others, but that seems to add a lot more killing power than all them? Freaking BUG. Do you think I want that?

 

Now, the silly suggestion, decrease mechs critical and atrack rating. And nerfing tanker mechs because of a skill that they don't use is bugged? That's nonsense, bullshit.

 

Not even talking about their absorption that NEVER worked. If it wasn't the change on Metal Armor that add 80% of the total defense and not just 80% if the armor defense like before, mechs would be paper like they were for more than an year.

 

So because of massive defense and high block a lot of hits just don't do any damage and you all whine about it. But when this so powerful tank class die in 1 or 2 hits you don't care, right?

 

Like my friend Roy said when we were on BC, a mech tank everything then suddenly die. Sudden death, is that tanking?

 

So, if you're not going to fix Maximize and put my absorption to work, do not mess with mech class. I know what is playing an useless class and I surely don't want to be like that again.

[4EvaLegend 0]

  On 12/28/2011 at 1:49 PM, luizlink64 said:

I'm laughing so badly here. This community are so great! Look at that! Haha!

 

If you didn't agree, let your arguments and just get out of the thread. Simply.

 

I didn't ordered nothing or said that it will be done... I kinda don't know why so much hatred, haha!

 

 

 

Oh, and i'll do not delete my forum account. Not because a random worm people that doesn't know how to handle with different povs and opinions <3

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Its the fact that everyone is disagreeing and your still trying to argue and want a change. Just lock topic.

[stfu 0]

thse guys are right this topic makes no sense

[QMan 0]

not at all for this topic

listen to all is a good thing

 

if developer PT need easiest balancing

-use weapon stat too simple as same as all weapon type

1 hand go to 1 hand dmg weapon

2 hand go to 2 hand dmg weapon

ex.1 hand all type near in stat

-use some diff on stat formula

 

and focus and make different on skill only

it's my suggestion..

 

[mercedes 0]

i dont understand what you guys say it so complexity -.-

[DarkLink64 921]

  On 12/28/2011 at 2:12 PM, -assKICKER- said:

 

 

don't laugh, nothing is funny, better if you could save your self, defend your arguments because you have been PWNED.

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Because people doesn't like the suggestion, it doesn't means that i've got pwoned. I'm not saving myself, i'm not defending my args, and, unlike retard people think, it's isn't a fight, dude.

 

I think you're just a retard, if you think on this way. Talking with retards is extremely funny, tbh

 

 

If retard people like a 1 handed with almost same power of 2 handed or a claw, that is more powerfull than a 2h weapon like Swords and Scythes, let's keep retard people happy.

 

Also if retard people like Axes and Hammers with almost 30 more weapon base damage than scythers and swords, keep it and leave retard people happy.

 

 

If retard people doesn't understand the point of my thread, i'll keep laughin hard by seeing you trying to feel like a winner.

 

 

QMan got my point here, making all weapons with SAME TOTAL value of stats, if you're striving for a correct balance, should make it much more easier.

 

Same total values doesn't means making all weapons with the same status, as i've show, each weapon should match the class, Knight always had the strongest min attack and lowest max attack, the Pike is the opposite, Fighters have a little more min attack and a little less max attack than Pike, and Hammers had medium min and max attack power.

 

This concept always matched the character playstile, Pike is the best burst damage dealer, so it should have lucky to reach maximum attack damage, Knights are based on DPS skills like Grand Cross, higher min attack should make it damage steady, Fighter is a pure power character that blow away it's defense to deal more damage, higher damage and a little min make perfect for Fighter, and Mechanicians is a balance between Tanking and Power, Like Knights, Mechanicians do DPS skill like Grand Smash, but a higher MAX damage should improve it's main damage buff, Maximize.

 

That's MY overview on HOW class should be, and how their ATK DMG should work.

 

This doesn't have nothing to do with character skills, because skills are imbalanced, Weapons are also. Balancing weapons should make the entire game balancing easier.

 

 

 

Also my another point was 2 handed being outclassed by 1 hand, since 1 hand provide almost the same damage, also you're wearing a shield that boost your ABS/DEF/BLK insanely making it completely unfair.

 

You can make a pool:

 

What do you want??

 

30 more Weapon Attack Power (at age + 0~20) or

 

10% critical Rate? (just at age + 20)?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[-assKICKER- 1]

YOU ARE AN EPIC FAIL  8)

 

PS: just one question for you? why do mech prefer SWORDS? (crit) than HAMMER? (damage)

[Gogg 3]

Just let the kid keep flamming who don't agree with him, Jay.

 

It's impossible to make him see how silly this "suggestion" is or how he's wrong with his false arguments.

[Akira 0]

IMO some plp just want to see game as aways, if you play with a superpowered class you gonna vote for no changes or nerf the class that you don't like. If someone suggests something, people flame, afraid that your class gonna be weakened.. somethings never change.