Evaluation: Fighter

[Melocrie 0]

Hey guys, I got a few questions for you all.

 

According to you:

 

- what is the Fighter's greatest weakness?

- Why is a Fighter unpopular to party with?

- what capability should a Fighter have to compensate for his weaknesses?

- what is the most boring part of a Fighter?

- what are the Fighter's strenghts?

 

Help me out here

[cuteako316 12]

Hey guys, I got a few questions for you all.

 

According to you:

 

- what is the Fighter's greatest weakness? - Lacks area skill for exping

- Why is a Fighter unpopular to party with? - Doesn't do much damage when it comes to multiple target.

- what capability should a Fighter have to compensate for his weaknesses? - Give more multiple target skills? or revamp?

- what is the most boring part of a Fighter? - Can't xp solo( i think)

- what are the Fighter's strenghts?  - Awesome in Pvp!! 1v1 and any 1v1 stuff in Pvp!! 1v1 and any 1v1 stuff

 

Help me out here

 

HI MELOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

[tommylizard 1]

Please don't give fighters a good AoE.

[-assKICKER- 1]

Hey guys, I got a few questions for you all.

 

According to you:

 

- what is the Fighter's greatest weakness?

- Why is a Fighter unpopular to party with?

- what capability should a Fighter have to compensate for his weaknesses?

- what is the most boring part of a Fighter?

- what are the Fighter's strenghts?.

 

Help me out here

 

 

 

- what is the Fighter's greatest weakness?  AOE of course, and -30 abs T_T ( im not whinning )

- Why is a Fighter unpopular to party with? they always have a bad reputation in xping, don't know why, but cyclone strike is a lil better now

- what capability should a Fighter have to compensate for his weaknesses? ofc ourse they should be good a 1x1!

- what is the most boring part of a Fighter? nothing at all, i love the class <3

- what are the Fighter's strenghts? PVP? 1x1?...

 

[Gogg 3]

Worst part of being fighter is that they are the weakest meeles on tanking.

 

AoE weakness is a dream these people are talking about. Whoever says fighters are weak have never seen Cyclone Strike. Thanks god it got limited targets to hit, talking about damage it's the strongest AoE skill.

 

They're unpopular because most of them like to PvP. Almost none of them got all T4 skills on lvl10, so they never go for Cyclone Strike. No CS, they suck.

 

Fighters don't need any capability to compensate their weakness. They already have. Highest attack among meeles, lowest tanking.

 

Boring part of a fighter? None. Just to whiners who might complain they train slow because they don't know how to build themselves or that they don't have a tanking pet to hunt~

 

Good point being a fighter: Hell high damage, good critical, with this T5 goid attack rating, hell strong single target skills that power up their attack even more.

 

From what I can notice on FS their only "problem" is that Destroyer got too effective with this new attack rating from T5.

[Gogg 3]

Trade off is the base of all PT balance. You chose to be good at 'this' and suck at 'that' and vice versa

[Melocrie 0]

Hey ministop ;D

 

Thanks for the replies, I'm hoping to hear more people's perspetives.

[Wyrm 1]

hi melo =)

 

my opinion on fighters (since i am one)

 

- what is the Fighter's greatest weakness?

negative buffs (ex.: berserk gives damage but lowers abs.... - knights have buff that add damage but it doesnt give negative stats along with it)

lame tanking massive mobs

 

- Why is a Fighter unpopular to party with?

because fs cant tank so even with average aoe (cyclone strike) they cant run into the mobs and cast it without potting like hell, therefore ppl use mech/prs and parties to lvl it up... 99.9% of the time fs are leeching (since there is no need to lure mobs on this server)

 

- what capability should a Fighter have to compensate for his weaknesses?

improve health boost skill

improve damage given on berserk or edit it to not decrease abs

change the pet on t5 from gold looter to a tanker pet or make the pet loot gold and give abs/def buffs or anything like that

improve axe's str req + atk speed if it doesnt unbalance the pvp on the game

 

- what is the most boring part of a Fighter?

lvl up ofc +_+ u cant solo with it so ull never get 100% of the exp, u always depend on other char to lvl it

lame thing that ks are better than fs on pvp, would be nice to buff fs to be better than ks on pvp...

 

- what are the Fighter's strenghts?

cool on hunting (roar ftw)

decent 1vs1 damage =)

[DreamOn 0]

Worst part of being fighter is that they are the weakest meeles on tanking.

 

AoE weakness is a dream these people are talking about. Whoever says fighters are weak have never seen Cyclone Strike. Thanks god it got limited targets to hit, talking about damage it's the strongest AoE skill.

 

They're unpopular because most of them like to PvP. Almost none of them got all T4 skills on lvl10, so they never go for Cyclone Strike. No CS, they suck.

 

Fighters don't need any capability to compensate their weakness. They already have. Highest attack among meeles, lowest tanking.

 

Boring part of a fighter? None. Just to whiners who might complain they train slow because they don't know how to build themselves or that they don't have a tanking pet to hunt~

 

Good point being a fighter: Hell high damage, good critical, with this T5 goid attack rating, hell strong single target skills that power up their attack even more.

 

From what I can notice on FS their only "problem" is that Destroyer got too effective with this new attack rating from T5.

Yeap, that's right.

[DarkLink64 921]

Hey guys, I got a few questions for you all.

 

According to you:

 

- what is the Fighter's greatest weakness?

- Why is a Fighter unpopular to party with?

- what capability should a Fighter have to compensate for his weaknesses?

- what is the most boring part of a Fighter?

- what are the Fighter's strenghts?

 

Help me out here

 

1- They lack tanking power, Fighter is the weakest melee character when talking about Tanking.

 

2- They usually doesn't level up Ciclone Strike, and doesn't have any Party Buff. Ciclone Strike ATM is a powerfull AoE skill, Wartale raised it range and power. Like Gogg said, if it wasn't the hit limit, it would be way too powerfull.

 

3- Nothing. Absolute nothing. They have the highest min/max attack damage on the game, have high critical, that only Pikeman outmatch him, high attack rating, very powerfull AoE. And what they lack is tanking.

 

4- Being outclassed by Pikeman at burst damage, a class that have a better Crowd Control (Ground Pike slow, tanking power and the strongest 1v1 skill damage for PvP. What is really boring is exp, like every non-priest class, exping is terrible boring.

 

5- Highest Attack Damage, High Critical, High Attack Rating, High HP, and his AoE Stun.

 

 

[Edgardo 0]

I think the downside of fighter is exping.

 

Most people are ignorant and don't get to knows the skills of the other classes, so they have the same old concepts, thinking fighter still has no AoE, therefore they don't allow them to party.

 

So the problem of fighter is the stupidity of people (most non-fighter and some fighters).

[zgjsyxwj 0]

HI, Meloooo I know nothing about fs ,haha :'(

[Wyrm 1]

what if the number of hits on cyclone strike were raised to.... 20 maybe? and increase the range of it too i dunno... to make it as powerful as prs ice meteorite?

[Zero 0]

what if the number of hits on cyclone strike were raised to.... 20 maybe? and increase the range of it too i dunno... to make it as powerful as prs ice meteorite?

 

FS AoE as strong as prs? You have a very good sense of humor.

[Melocrie 0]

So I hear various perspectives on the Fighter. In my own opinion, when it sounds like they're not all that bad, perhaps they could something of a defensive kind of boost, without making it OP.

From what I'm hearing, they're AOE is good enough.

 

So what kind of defense boosts could make the FS more usable, yet not really more powerful?

HP boost?

Abs boost?

 

And I hear party buff?

[DarkLink64 921]

They just doesn't need any tanking buff, Fighters ARE usable, they are a hell strong class at PvP and hunting.

 

If you want to increase his tanking ability, remove some Attack Damage, because it's the highest of the entire game. There is no point into make a class with outstanding attack damage/critical/attack rating with good defenses

 

 

Playing with my friend, when he uses Berserker, he kills me with 1H ko. (and people keep saying that Knights are OP, since my GC didn't take more than 40% of his health)

 

And i said about party buffs. He doesn't have ony, so, this is another reason that people don't party fighters.

[-assKICKER- 1]

they are not good at hunting, unless they have someone to tank for them, i don't wanna hunt if i pot almost everytime...

 

 

ps: i hunt with my fighter but i always use an archer with him, my fighter is level 133 with good equipps, and the archer is 128, and (most of the time) the archer see the drops, so a 128 archer is still better than a 133 fighter hunting and that's fine, i don't QQ about that just to make it clear..

[Melocrie 0]

I don't see anyone really QQ about it, which is good

 

But I'm starting to get a good picture here.

[DarkLink64 921]

they are not good at hunting, unless they have someone to tank for them, i don't wanna hunt if i pot almost everytime...

 

 

ps: i hunt with my fighter but i always use an archer with him, my fighter is level 133 with good equipps, and the archer is 128, and (most of the time) the archer see the drops, so a 128 archer is still better than a 133 fighter hunting and that's fine, i don't QQ about that just to make it clear..

 

If someone (a clan mate / party) can provide a pet / xtal for Fighter, only Archer can kill faster than Fighters at hunting...

[Edgardo 0]

So I hear various perspectives on the Fighter. In my own opinion, when it sounds like they're not all that bad, perhaps they could something of a defensive kind of boost, without making it OP.

From what I'm hearing, they're AOE is good enough.

 

So what kind of defense boosts could make the FS more usable, yet not really more powerful?

HP boost?

Abs boost?

 

And I hear party buff?

 

Maybe something related to shield?

 

to make it more worthy it using them? I don't know this far, but I dont see much fs using shield and 1-handed. not sure...

[Gogg 3]

Fighters don't need any defensive boosting.

 

Might be problem tanking on exp maps for some people, but they can perfectly do it with shields, and they're no longer limited to 106 axe as highest 1h axe, so their damage won't be too low.

 

Ah, and people should stop thinking that tanking on exp map means never using HP pots.

[Melocrie 0]

Yea, it's become like the norm that tanking means 'not losing hp at all'. I disagree with that, potting = putting effort into it. And that's how it should be =/ Imo, mech should be the only class able to tank without potting.