rPT Classes (28/11/2012)

[sharman 0]

BC:

fighter: kill fast die fast

knight :hard to kill ppl, ppl hard to kill knight.

archer : kill fast die fast

mech : like KS but Fs can kill mech.

ata    : war mode.

ps    : ICE  ftw but CS useless.

MG    : war mode.

pris    :0 BC

Fix me if iam wrong . Ty

fighter doesnt die easily , ks can kill good

fighter die easier than KS ks good kill because ks can tank

Fs = damg

Ks= def

[AJAX-AMSTERDAM 0]

BC:

fighter: kill fast die fast

knight :hard to kill ppl, ppl hard to kill knight.

archer : kill fast die fast

mech : like KS but Fs can kill mech.

ata    : war mode.

ps    : ICE  ftw but CS useless.

MG    : war mode.

pris    :0 BC

Fix me if iam wrong . Ty

fighter doesnt die easily , ks can kill good

fighter die easier than KS ks good kill because ks can tank

Fs = damg

Ks= def

are you really retarded?  That fs strength is his insane dmg doesnt mean he die eaily..

 

Dude give me a brake...

[sharman 0]

BC:

fighter: kill fast die fast

knight :hard to kill ppl, ppl hard to kill knight.

archer : kill fast die fast

mech : like KS but Fs can kill mech.

ata    : war mode.

ps    : ICE  ftw but CS useless.

MG    : war mode.

pris    :0 BC

Fix me if iam wrong . Ty

fighter doesnt die easily , ks can kill good

fighter die easier than KS ks good kill because ks can tank

Fs = damg

Ks= def

are you really retarded?  That fs strength is his insane dmg doesnt mean he die eaily..

 

Dude give me a brake...

FS die easier than KS.  right?

I just said FS = damg

KS = def

PS:  PS is the weakest of all even pris is better

[AJAX-AMSTERDAM 0]

BC:

fighter: kill fast die fast

knight :hard to kill ppl, ppl hard to kill knight.

archer : kill fast die fast

mech : like KS but Fs can kill mech.

ata    : war mode.

ps    : ICE  ftw but CS useless.

MG    : war mode.

pris    :0 BC

Fix me if iam wrong . Ty

fighter doesnt die easily , ks can kill good

fighter die easier than KS ks good kill because ks can tank

Fs = damg

Ks= def

are you really retarded?  That fs strength is his insane dmg doesnt mean he die eaily..

 

Dude give me a brake...

FS die easier than KS.  right?

I just said FS = damg

KS = def

PS:  PS is the weakest of all even pris is better

Read your first post.... not the second....  you said  FS kills fast dies fast.

 

you really should do something on your grammar... LMFAO

[[D]ohkito 2]

BC:

fighter: kill fast die fast

knight :hard to kill ppl, ppl hard to kill knight.

archer : kill fast die fast

mech : like KS but Fs can kill mech.

ata    : war mode.

ps    : ICE  ftw but CS useless.

MG    : war mode.

pris    :0 BC

Fix me if iam wrong . Ty

 

Funny! HAHAHAHAHA

 

FS doens't die fast.

KS Have noone problem to kill anyone. Infact, he kills pretty easy.

 

[[D]ohkito 2]

what would war mode be?

its always tricky what viets mean with there post on topics...

 

I think he means they are good in war mode like 10 vs 10 but not good in 1 vs 1

 

Almost.

 

Magician is pretty usefull to wars. But, this doesn't mean that MGS ain't goot to 1vs1 battles.

[AJAX-AMSTERDAM 0]

ohkito" post="450499" timestamp="1354518909"]

what would war mode be?

its always tricky what viets mean with there post on topics...

 

I think he means they are good in war mode like 10 vs 10 but not good in 1 vs 1

 

Almost.

 

Magician is pretty usefull to wars. But, this doesn't mean that MGS ain't goot to 1vs1 battles.

like i said i think he means that not my opinion  :-*

[[D]ohkito 2]

And I didn't say that were your opinion.  ;D

[sharman 0]

BC:

fighter: kill fast die fast

knight :hard to kill ppl, ppl hard to kill knight.

archer : kill fast die fast

mech : like KS but Fs can kill mech.

ata    : war mode.

ps    : ICE  ftw but CS useless.

MG    : war mode.

pris    :0 BC

Fix me if iam wrong . Ty

fighter doesnt die easily , ks can kill good

fighter die easier than KS ks good kill because ks can tank

Fs = damg

Ks= def

are you really retarded?  That fs strength is his insane dmg doesnt mean he die eaily..

 

Dude give me a brake...

FS die easier than KS.  right?

I just said FS = damg

KS = def

PS:  PS is the weakest of all even pris is better

Read your first post.... not the second....  you said  FS kills fast dies fast.

 

you really should do something on your grammar... LMFAO

FS does kill fast and Fs does die fast --'

[sharman 0]

ohkito" post="450412" timestamp="1354488612"]

BC:

fighter: kill fast die fast

knight :hard to kill ppl, ppl hard to kill knight.

archer : kill fast die fast

mech : like KS but Fs can kill mech.

ata    : war mode.

ps    : ICE  ftw but CS useless.

MG    : war mode.

pris    :0 BC

Fix me if iam wrong . Ty

 

Funny! HAHAHAHAHA

 

FS doens't die fast.

KS Have noone problem to kill anyone. Infact, he kills pretty easy.

KS dont have killer skill...( Destroyer, Cs back then)

KS dont have back up skill...( roar,ice)

[tutyfruity 0]

ohkito link=topic=71349.msg450412#msg450412 date=1354488612]

BC:

fighter: kill fast die fast

knight :hard to kill ppl, ppl hard to kill knight.

archer : kill fast die fast

mech : like KS but Fs can kill mech.

ata    : war mode.

ps    : ICE  ftw but CS useless.

MG    : war mode.

pris    :0 BC

Fix me if iam wrong . Ty

 

Funny! HAHAHAHAHA

 

FS doens't die fast.

KS Have noone problem to kill anyone. Infact, he kills pretty easy.

KS dont have killer skill...( Destroyer, Cs back then)

KS dont have back up skill...( roar,ice)

CS ? you say CS? kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

ice it's ok but CS is useless, Shadow master have more damage and is faster than cs.don't put pike in story,

cs is slow than all skills in game, anyone can kill pike when he's using cs

KS have piercing devine, it has a good damage

and have Gc, hardly ever missed hits and have a good damage too

yes ks don't have back up skill, but have defense

in the end, KS and FS  are OP, idk what is more OP than other ,but both are OP

[sharman 0]

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CS BACK THENNNNNNNNNNNN

i think PS SM is better than KS DP

Gc ks is deal good damg but its dont  bug like AS PS and its  dont have crit like FS AC its not stronger than PS CL 3hits. GC hit fast than CL but PS CL hit 2/3 have higher damg than GC.

KS is op cause KS  balance KS is not OP in BC

[tutyfruity 0]

kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

CS BACK THENNNNNNNNNNNN

i think PS SM is better than KS DP

Gc ks is deal good damg but its dont  bug like AS PS and its  dont have crit like FS AC its not stronger than PS CL 3hits. GC hit fast than CL but PS CL hit 2/3 have higher damg than GC.

KS is op cause KS  balance KS is not OP in BC

oh god give me patience

forget

when the wood is crooked until the ash is crooked

 

i can't change your mind,but is the truth, what do you want, ks have  5000  defense ,atack 1200-1400 critical 40%

you want 6000 defense 1900-2000, 100% critical,

cl have 66% damage ,but 1 hit is missed, Gc have 80% damage and 80% atack rating

imagine PS with 55% damge bost +160% full charge with 81% speed +100% damage boost from vanish

yes it's op

now have 60% +120% with 60% speed + 40% vanish

[DarkLink64 921]

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CS BACK THENNNNNNNNNNNN

i think PS SM is better than KS DP

Gc ks is deal good damg but its dont  bug like AS PS and its  dont have crit like FS AC its not stronger than PS CL 3hits. GC hit fast than CL but PS CL hit 2/3 have higher damg than GC.

KS is op cause KS  balance KS is not OP in BC

 

He got a true point here.

 

Pike have Attack Rating Mastery that gives him extra Attack Rating for every skill, Shadow Master and Chain Lance included. Shadow Master have 80% Added Damage, and with Vanish + Assassin Eye, Shadow Master can easily 2/3 Hit KO

 

Meanwhile Knight doesn't have any kind of Attack Rating bonuses, just only on his primary damage dealing skill Grand Cross, Devine Piercing hits is blocked / defended most of time, it's 70% added damage and he doesn't have any critical boost.

 

Common sense here please, its extremely rare a Knight killing someone with his Devine Piercing, what happens much more often is he being killed due to Devine Piercing long animation. Devine Piercing can't be compared with neither Shadow Master, Charged Strike or Destroyer. Destroyer is the ultimate skill of the game, 3 extremely quick hits with 150% added damage and 28% added critical (plus its benefit from his Attack Rating passive), landing total 750% damage (without critical) on just 3 extremely quick hits.

 

Saying that Devine Piercing is a good or even "OK" skill is just something out of basis, lacking some kind of argument. If Wartale makes Devine Piercing benefit from Attack Speed, perhaps Devine Piercing can be someday compared to SM/CS/DT. (For who doesn't know, Devine Piercing is NOT affected by Attack Speed, but it is somehow affected when Knight is stunned by Fighter Roar meanwhile Devine Piercing is being executed << i'm sure most knights have experienced this on PvP)

 

Chain Lance benefits from his Attack Rating Mastery and Assassin Eye plus have 66% added damage per 3 hit, meanwhile Grand Cross stick with 80% added damage per 2 hit.

 

As far math goes, each hit deals 100% of attack damage, Chain Lance deal final 468% damage against the target, meanwhile Knight deals 360

 

Pike can KO with 2 CL when Assassin Eye is on, also Assassin Eye works as a Debuff, decreasing his target critical ratio

 

Except against pure Archers and Atalantas, Knight barely can KO with 2 GC, it only happens if somehow 4 hits of 2 GC does critical, something uncommon

 

 

Arguing that Knight is op at PvP (I'm talking about PVP - PvE indeed he's extremely good all around) is something baseless, ATM the only class that is extremely overpower is Fighter, just him. Knight, Pike, Mech, Archer and Atalantas are well balanced, (100% balance in any kind of RPG/Fighting game is something impossible to reach no matter how harder you try)

 

Also just to notify: Archer Phoenix Shot does critical and it can be only Blocked. I don't know if Phoenix Shot isn't defended due to innate extreme high Attack Rating from Archer, or Phoenix Shot itself can not be Defended

 

And his most true point is, Knight lacks "CC", wich means "Crowd Control". Examples of CC is Stun, Slow (Freeze or Distortion), Debuffers. I would put summoned Pets another kind of CC, because if they're used, positioned and played correctly, the pet most usefull effect on PvP is making targeting the player harder

 

 

[BiDa 4]

I was trying to get a feel on how the classes are in game nowadays and have your comments on it but it seems that most people say their class is weak and other classes are strong.

 

I also asked you guys not to flame and you couldn't do it either.

 

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