Inner Soul

[LECO 20]

hello all!

im writing here for discuss about inner soul critical.

Since they change back, fs class is not the same.

i have a fs 140 full 126 +20 and its hard to kill archer 135 using thales armor .

Im not crying, but i think its a bit unfair, fs is strong because he use berseker, but compensate and lost abs, and IS without -10 critical suck alot

Atm im not using T5 skill and work better, with that, what is the point get t5 skill and no use it.

Pike can kill in 1 hit using Jumping Crash (suposed to be no strong skill but is the best skill for pikes atm) and fs cant kill an archer using destroyer.

 

Restore the critical, fs no have critical using age in axes.

 

Discuss

 

[MrWakaWalrus 3]

i saw a video of a fs pvping, video was from april 2013. he was full 120 + 20 donate, power build. i guess fs are just bad in this server.

[Rawand 0]

i saw a video of a fs pvping, video was from april 2013. he was full 120 + 20 donate, power build. i guess fs are just bad in this server.

 

LOL,  you sure it was REALMpt?

[MrWakaWalrus 3]

yes!

[jhedpogi23 0]

Well if they remove the -10 crit all fs will be op they got a massive increase attack like berserk skill

[Vince 0]

All class most balance just only Pike with Jumping Crash (JC) kind of crappy and most powerful than Destroy from FT, why this skill must be this powerful just 1 JC could die any char ? why don't put most powerfully skill of pike back to the Charching Strike (CS) ? Powerfully skill need some of charge and delay.

[DarkLink64 921]

This is pure joke.

 

Without real evidence (aka tests ands some image/proofs), your claim is pure bias towards yourself. Fighter is WAY far for being bad or have unfair things against others.

 

Also you can just not cast Inner Soul at all. Avenging Crash have 50% added Attack Rating of your base Attack Rating, Fighters reach the same or even a little more Attack Rating than Knight GC with Inner Soul. Without Inner Soul, it just a little decrease of % hit succes, almost unnoticeable.

 

Fighter is still so powerfull that you don't even need Inner Soul.

 

Don't cast it, and you'll not have any critical penalty, will deal the hell out of damage and will hit the same probability.

 

 

 

What happens is the Archer you're fighting against, is the problem. Archers with Phoenix Bless gains 30% of Evade, and this evade Stacks with her Evansion Mastery Passive, so a total  of 53%, + 8% of Block from 2 Handed Bow or 37% Block from 1 handed Bow + Shield (perf +20), + 6% block from Thales Armor

 

 

Do the math:

 

1 Handed + Shield Archer:

 

43% of Block. (32% of perf shield + 20, 5% of Shield Spec, 6% of Thales Armor) If your hit doesn't get blocked, it have 53% of Evade (23% from passive, 30% from Phoenix Speed). If neither blocked or evaded, then Archer's defense comes to the calculation. Without defense, your chance of hitting a 0 Defense Archer is 26,79%. The math is:

 

100% hit chance, Block Check: 100% - 43% = 57%, Evade Check: 57% - 53% = 26,79% of hitting an archer. This value can be even lower, because of Archer Defense.

 

2 Handed Archer:

 

14% of Block. (8 from Bow and 6 from Thales Armor) If your hit doesn't get blocked, it have 53% of Evade (23% of passive and 30% of Phoenix Speed). If neither Blocked or Evaded, then Archer's defenses comes to the calculation. With 0 defense archer, your chance to hit her is 40,42%. Here is the math:

 

100% hit chance, Block Check: 100% - 14% = 86%, Evade Check: 86% - 53% = 40,42% chance of hitting an archer. This value can be even lower, because of Archer Defense.

 

 

Fighter is OP, the same goes for Archer.

[sharman 0]

not anymore what is inner soul for if u buff it even weaker then non buff '

[darrenshan 0]

You can buff it with Swift Axe and FS gain 1 attack speed !!! Well 9 attack speed compare to 8 of others is pretty damn OP I must say. Innersoul also give you 320 attack rate, make your AC's attack rating on par with Knight GC.

[LECO 20]

You can buff it with Swift Axe and FS gain 1 attack speed !!! Well 9 attack speed compare to 8 of others is pretty damn OP I must say. Innersoul also give you 320 attack rate, make your AC's attack rating on par with Knight GC.

pretty damn OP? wtf are u talking?????

swift axe exist since priston tale started and fs ALWAYSSSSSSSSS have +1 in speed.

we not tlking about skills, in that way "damn atas have a pet, they are OP because can use pet for hunt"

We discuss about T5, IS atm is useless skill and suposed to be usefull, but with -10 crit no ones use it now.

[dangthien 0]

You can buff it with Swift Axe and FS gain 1 attack speed !!! Well 9 attack speed compare to 8 of others is pretty damn OP I must say. Innersoul also give you 320 attack rate, make your AC's attack rating on par with Knight GC.

pretty damn OP? wtf are u talking?????

swift axe exist since realm pt started and fs ALWAYSSSSSSSSS have +1 in speed.

we not tlking about skills, in that way "damn atas have a pet, they are OP because can use pet for hunt"

We discuss about T5, IS atm is useless skill and suposed to be usefull, but with -10 crit no ones use it now.

 

It give you the chance to improve your attack rating while using Swift Axe. In the past, I know many player sacrifice Swift Axe to use Concentration and now this is their chance to use both.

 

Just consider this as a sacrifice of the burst from Critical to increase the dps from constant hitting of Fighter. Since Destroyer miss a alot, people complain and now Developer give them what they want. But have you ever consider a deadly skill with high critical chance and high hit rate will be like ?

 

I was like you just a few weeks ago, all FS in my Clan use Inner Soul and I have a pretty hard argument with them. But guess what ? After doing some PvPing and observing the kill speed from ET quest with FT, I change my opinion and see that IS really help FT a lot. FT do use it, and it proves to be useful in many situation.

 

Please, Knight haven't complaint about that Tier5 only buff their damage against Undead while they don't need it (they already have more than enough) and do not bring them any change in PvP, why do you complaints ?

[DarkLink64 921]

Since when Fighter "Always" had +1 speed?

 

Fighter was designed to hold Axes, and Axes by its design always had total 7 of Attack Speed, not 8 like other weapons.

 

Swift Axe exists to pair up Axe speed with others, but what happens here is higher leveled Axes have total 8 attack speed, so it's why it have 9 Attack Speed with Swift Axe, being extremely powerfull resource...

[sharman 0]

You can buff it with Swift Axe and FS gain 1 attack speed !!! Well 9 attack speed compare to 8 of others is pretty damn OP I must say. Innersoul also give you 320 attack rate, make your AC's attack rating on par with Knight GC.

if SA so damn ops than God Bless are so DAMN OP, Drastic spirit is so DAMN OP and GODLY SHIELD is SUPER DAMN OP. ^^

KS have GODLY SHILD (20% ABS) but it have hidden abs when use it with 2 handed.

KS have DRASTIC SPIRIT(22% DEF)

and GOD BLESS (+100 min and max)

 

 

 

FS have Swift Axe +1 spd

FS have BER + 180 min and max BUT - 30 ABS...

the only point FS  have advantage  are the DESTROYER, but w/o innersoul (+atk rate) its useless because most of the player now a day full 126 128. with pure atk rate it very hard to make it 2/3 and impossible to make it 3/3

FS are now really stuck but everyclass have their own OP time thats how game roll

[sharman 0]

Since when Fighter "Always" had +1 speed?

 

Fighter was designed to hold Axes, and Axes by its design always had total 7 of Attack Speed, not 8 like other weapons.

 

Swift Axe exists to pair up Axe speed with others, but what happens here is higher leveled Axes have total 8 attack speed, so it's why it have 9 Attack Speed with Swift Axe, being extremely powerfull resource...

thats why in others server people dont  play FS only KS and PS ^^

[Poteten 0]

as rock

[dangthien 0]

You can buff it with Swift Axe and FS gain 1 attack speed !!! Well 9 attack speed compare to 8 of others is pretty damn OP I must say. Innersoul also give you 320 attack rate, make your AC's attack rating on par with Knight GC.

if SA so damn ops than God Bless are so DAMN OP, Drastic spirit is so DAMN OP and GODLY SHIELD is SUPER DAMN OP. ^^

KS have GODLY SHILD (20% ABS) but it have hidden abs when use it with 2 handed.

KS have DRASTIC SPIRIT(22% DEF)

and GOD BLESS (+100 min and max)

 

 

 

FS have Swift Axe +1 spd

FS have BER + 180 min and max BUT - 30 ABS...

the only point FS  have advantage  are the DESTROYER, but w/o innersoul (+atk rate) its useless because most of the player now a day full 126 128. with pure atk rate it very hard to make it 2/3 and impossible to make it 3/3

FS are now really stuck but everyclass have their own OP time thats how game roll

 

Grand Cross does weaker damage than AC and don't have crit boots. Even accounting Innersouls, AC still does have 5% crit boots. Couple with +1 attack speed is pretty damn awesome.

 

Don't forget 250 hp points FT have from Tier4. HP boots is one of the best defense in PvP, not abs.

 

FT str gain 0.8 HP, Knight only 0.6, FT HP bar is always and always higher than Knight.

 

Godly shield is not OP, it just help Knight survive the high damage comming from Pike and Fighter. If you say Godly Shield is OP then is Mech's Compulsion which increase 42 abs normal ? Knight can't increase 42 abs while using 2 hands with Godly Shield, it require 210 abs to do that.

 

+180 damage and couple it with Destroyer to increase the output even more. If it hit two non crit then you're dead. One hit crit and you're dead. -30 abs is a good sacrifice. After the Destroyer, you can switch to Shield and wait the buff to falls off and begin using AC.

 

For stable damage with GC like Knight, he need high attack power and high defense to unleash it as much as possible and hope it can bring people down, then God Bless only increase Knight constant damage. But for a class with extremely high damage skill, the increase attack power skill will be amplified even more and become extremely deadly. Don't justify the skill separately !!! You must combine them to see the result it can bring out.

 

Seriously, I haven't meet any FT in game that complaint about their class because they win 80% of the time x1. And the most frustrating match I have seen is something like this:

 

A FS with 120+20 weapon fighting a Knight with 126+20 sword and armor 126. I don't know their level but it is clearly the Knight have upper gear. The two first match the Knight won easily, but then FT begin to use Shield and only Destroyer with 2 hands when it's off dealay. Guess what ? FS never lose again. That's just how overpower FS is if you use it smartly.