Gsantos 0 Report post Posted December 24, 2009 what do you thing ??? shield or orb plz say good and bad points in each one and your opinion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SEXandLOVE 0 Report post Posted December 25, 2009 It depends on your build , Im a "defense" build and Im using a blaze shield beacuse of it's high def/block Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cookie 0 Report post Posted December 25, 2009 At the moment, its would be wiser to use a shield, preferably blaze shield as/ata, because of the high block and abs. From lvl 105/110 i would suggest to use a orb, cause if you age it you will have a lot more def/abs and about the same % as a blaze shield Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gsantos 0 Report post Posted December 25, 2009 but if i want a hagh lvl shield such as syntetic shield ?? is is good for a priest that has a build for exp/ sod ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cookie 0 Report post Posted December 25, 2009 Synthetic shields needs too much str IMO blaze shield is the highest i would go for blaze shield is about the str you need for high lvl gaunts/boots etc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gsantos 0 Report post Posted December 25, 2009 and those priests that wear really high lvl shield such as ph shield or xtal shield ?? those shield need a lot of str and they just wear it ... is that good for any build ?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cookie 0 Report post Posted December 25, 2009 IMO its a waste of points PRS arent supposed to be the maintanker and with a nice aged orb and decent stuff you can survive pretty well, so you can put more points in WP (for more dmg) or just some HP (better surviving at all) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Renan 0 Report post Posted December 26, 2009 I preffer orbs. Even lower lvl. 'Cause I use base agi, str for wand/staff, high spirit and 150 health. Atmm I'm 86 and got like 150 health and 241 spirit. I can survive quite well and got a descent dmg, and I preffer high hp than def on low lvl (b4 110). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alive 3 Report post Posted December 26, 2009 in another pt . I built my pri with xtal shield. I aged it high. And for me, it was good. So Im re-building my pri with a highshield again.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-RaMoN- 0 Report post Posted December 29, 2009 It depends level (Many things) but I prefer orb to high lvl and to low lvl shield is better ,,, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BBuddy~ 203 Report post Posted December 29, 2009 Shield = + Block Orb = + Defense if High Aged Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EfestokS 0 Report post Posted January 1, 2010 orb better Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lucastui 0 Report post Posted January 1, 2010 orb better Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anshlun 0 Report post Posted January 1, 2010 prefer Orb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BBuddy~ 203 Report post Posted January 1, 2010 Depends of your build Imo,i choose the orb. as i said orb = +def shield = +block Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlaBla 0 Report post Posted January 1, 2010 I'm not playing PRS, MAGE, but I already plaid with both of them. I think the orb is better, but maybe that's not the case on this server.. I'll try with my PRS mate char. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dingor 0 Report post Posted January 28, 2010 A high aged orb is surely better than a high aged shield. However, in the case of mixes, if the shield has a good mix (using, infernas, enigmas etc.) will be better than the orb, I think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
December 0 Report post Posted January 28, 2010 A high aged orb is surely better than a high aged shield. However, in the case of mixes, if the shield has a good mix (using, infernas, enigmas etc.) will be better than the orb, I think. depends on the playing style i prefer orbs... eh its just me oh well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NanoEntity 8 Report post Posted January 28, 2010 Shield is better no matter what level you are with good MIX. ORB only +15-+20, else its not worth to even age them at all. Only Equip Orbs with age +15-+20, else MIX shield is the best choice. Only Age orbs with perfect defense & perfect Spec. Stats Defense. ORB has to be level 108+ ORBs lower then 108+ item grade do not produce enough defense from age which makes them worthless to even invest such money in. NOTE: The lower the ORB defense the less benefit you get when aging them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xinxilaum 0 Report post Posted January 28, 2010 Shield is better no matter what level you are with good MIX. ORB only +15-+20, else its not worth to even age them at all. Only Equip Orbs with age +15-+20, else MIX shield is the best choice. Only Age orbs with perfect defense & perfect Spec. Stats Defense. ORB has to be level 108+ ORBs lower then 108+ item grade do not produce enough defense from age which makes them worthless to even invest such money in. NOTE: The lower the ORB defense the less benefit you get when aging them. Crazy........... Just a +10 salamander beads is better than blaze+10~+12, any high lvl mixed (str too high, put it on wp or vit) etc etc.......mix on shield, now, is waste .....test it in Wartale. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marçal 1 Report post Posted January 28, 2010 ORB... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NanoEntity 8 Report post Posted January 29, 2010 I'm not talking about blaze , shield prs go for the best shield in the game . It has other Benefits to it ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Avernus Beads Defense 166 - 180 Block 7 - 8% ABS 8.1 - 8.6 Spec. Stats Defense 34 - 44 Block 7% Absorb 1.4 - 1.8 Age +20 3 oredo / 7 bellum / 11 enigma / 15 inferna / 19 celesto Chance of Fail / Chance of De age, chance of going Poof. AFTER With Spec. Avernus Beads +20 Defense 1254 ABS 20.4 Block 15% Oracle Wand req 70 str Benefit Can Equip Great Bracelets Strength 66 Defense 36 PotCount 38 War Gauntlets Strength 70 Defense 52 Absorb 1.7 Spec. Stats Defense 20 Absorb 0.5 Total: Defense 108 Absorb 2.2 PotCount 38 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dreadnaught Shield Strength 130 / lower for AS/ATA Spec Defense 210 - 260 Absorb 14.6 - 15.1 Block 17 - 20% Best MIX HP( +60 ) | Def( +200 ) | Abs( +5.4 ) | Blk( +7 ) Price 6 oredo / 4 bellum / 1 enigma AFTER Dreadnaught Shield Strength 130 / lower for AS/ATA Spec Defense 460 Absorb 20.5 Block 27% HP +60 +60 HP means you don't have to spend/invest points into Health. There being moved into strength, which gives more carry weight, more abs, more def being added. Benefit Can equip Phoenix Bracelets Strength 90 Defense 160 PotCount 110 Phoenix Gauntlets Strength 100 Defense 193 Absorb 12 Spec. Stats Defense 64 Absorb 1.2 Total: Defense 417 Absorb 13.2 PotCount 110 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ THE DIFFERENCE! AFTER With Spec. Avernus Beads ( Age +20) Defense 1254 ABS 20.4 Block 15% PLUS Defense 108 Absorb 2.2 PotCount 38 Total Gain: Defense 1362 Absorb 22.6 Block 15% PotCount 38 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ AFTER Dreadnaught Shield (Best Mix) Strength 130 / lower for AS/ATA Spec Defense 460 Absorb 20.5 Block 27% HP +60 PLUS Defense 417 Absorb 13.2 PotCount 110 Total Gain: Defense 877 Absorb 33.7 Block 27% HP +60 PotCount 110 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ CONCLUSION! Orb Prs - +20 Defense 1362 Absorb 22.6 Block 15% PotCount 38 Price: 3 oredo / 7 bellum / 11 enigma / 15 inferna / 19 celesto 28% - 48% chance item will go poof, Age +15 - +20. Shield Prs - Best MIX Defense 877 Absorb 33.7 Block 27% HP +60 PotCount 110 Price: 6 oredo / 4 bellum / 1 enigma 100% chance Success. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Exelicer 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2010 Ur so important that everything is bold what u r posting? Beside u have couple misstakes in ur calc like... oracle wand prs spec has min str req of 53 That no prs would go for ur stated set when using orb or that the avernus aging calc is wrong... I guess it might be not a comon build to say u have best set, best mixes and whatever. And on rpt u get more with high spirit as in other pt's. Its not like upt, where u dont feel a diff with 50 spirit more or not. And phoenix set is around 8x str and u forgett about agi - u also have to add for higher sets. Ya I had perf phoenix set with best sapphier mix on upt... cos it was there more important to reach high abs + muspell 10 to get healed in xp maps by undeads an never use hp pots, just spamm cl, but a weak cl... I dont really want to say orb or shield is better... most prs go for a leech build here anyway, doesnt matter if orb and alot health or shield with alot str and some health. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NanoEntity 8 Report post Posted January 29, 2010 As I said, its based off the Item list that is in game with max listed Str. http://www.realmpt.com/forum/index.php?topic=1829.0 Obviously AS/ATA shield will be less then 130str, same for wand, boots, gag, arm with spec. And calculations are right , 10% def added each age, 20 times. with perfect Def Avernus Beads. It will be around 1200 Def, of base 180 Def. go do, 180 + 10%+ 10% +10%, and so on, do that 20 times, comes to 1200 Def rate. And that is if you never fail +1 - +20. Benefit with shield is higher then orb. Especially for leveling/soloing/sod. Hunting obviously pure willpower. Ur so important that everything is bold what u r posting? Beside u have couple misstakes in ur calc like... oracle wand prs spec has min str req of 53 That no prs would go for ur stated set when using orb or that the avernus aging calc is wrong... I guess it might be not a comon build to say u have best set, best mixes and whatever. And on rpt u get more with high spirit as in other pt's. Its not like upt, where u dont feel a diff with 50 spirit more or not. And phoenix set is around 8x str and u forgett about agi - u also have to add for higher sets. Ya I had perf phoenix set with best sapphier mix on upt... cos it was there more important to reach high abs + muspell 10 to get healed in xp maps by undeads an never use hp pots, just spamm cl, but a weak cl... I dont really want to say orb or shield is better... most prs go for a leech build here anyway, doesnt matter if orb and alot health or shield with alot str and some health. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lucastui 0 Report post Posted March 2, 2010 orb better Share this post Link to post Share on other sites