Hg WAS fun.

[kituco 0]

But it is not anymore when I am dying by hitkill from the monsters that surround the arena. I am a 12x archer and even using my shield and having VL I can't make it to end of the HG. Imagine now if I go attack. All the melees that were supposed to tank the monsters around Prince are just running for their lives. Therefore, there's no condition for me, as an archer, to even keep hitting Prince. We all know archers and atalantas are weaker and more probable to die. Except before this change it was alright to survive in the arena and even attack Prince.

 

Also, why make something WAY harder, which now takes around to 2 or 3 times more to be killed and keep the same prizes? Lotta fun to stay 45min inside an arena TRYING to survive and get as reward the same exp as before (25bil) or maybe an inferna force? Sounds really exciting, right? What everyone is talking inside game is that it is just more worth to do a CT3 pq instead of trying your luck on HG, where you will probably end up dying or end up receiving a bad prize.

 

If your argument is that now HG is only for way higher levels, then why keeping the same prizes?

My opinion is: make the monsters around weaker as they were before. This way archers and atalantas will be able to attack HG as they did before this change. That's how everyone will have fun. And I still think PRINCE (edited) has too many HP. Setting it at 600k would be great.

 

15~20 minutes inside the arena are more than enough every 6 hours.

 

Anyone with me?!

[WasterYears 0]

+1

[llp 0]

+1

[MrWakaWalrus 3]

I am one of the mages running around for their lives and Im really, really sorry not to help, not to attack or tank for the rangers, but Im getting 1 screen per 2 seconds, I cant use magic source on others, I cant accept pt invites, I cant give away mana/stm ppl ask me away because I simply cant move the mouse around with 0.5 fraps per second.

[Thestorm 0]

+1

[Francisco2291 0]

Prince used to has 53k hp and now has 96k hp wtf? And as u said the same shit rewards.

[MrWakaWalrus 3]

Prince used to has 53k hp and now has 96k hp wtf? And as u said the same shit rewards.

 

570k hp to 960k

[destroierxxx 0]

+1

[fr0st 2]

+1

[ooGCoo 0]

But it is not anymore when I am dying by hitkill from the monsters that surround the arena. I am a 12x archer and even using my shield and having VL I can't make it to end of the HG. Imagine now if I go attack. All the melees that were supposed to tank the monsters around Prince are just running for their lives. Therefore, there's no condition for me, as an archer, to even keep hitting Prince. We all know archers and atalantas are weaker and more probable to die. Except before this change it was alright to survive in the arena and even attack Prince.

 

Also, why make something WAY harder, which now takes around to 2 or 3 times more to be killed and keep the same prizes? Lotta fun to stay 45min inside an arena TRYING to survive and get as reward the same exp as before (25bil) or maybe an inferna force? Sounds really exciting, right? What everyone is talking inside game is that it is just more worth to do a CT3 pq instead of trying your luck on HG, where you will probably end up dying or end up receiving a bad prize.

 

If your argument is that now HG is only for way higher levels, then why keeping the same prizes?

My opinion is: make the monsters around weaker as they were before. This way archers and atalantas will be able to attack HG as they did before this change. That's how everyone will have fun. And I still think PRINCE (edited) has too many HP. Setting it at 600k would be great.

 

15~20 minutes inside the arena are more than enough every 6 hours.

 

Anyone with me?!

 

I agree to many of your points. But having a 9-11 min HG prizing ranging from junk ppskill, pegg, forces, 25bil exp, to throne items, and now 134 set, they have to do something. HG was one of the main reason why the game economy tanked. suddenly someone gets a throne, and hes almost 2gb richer. All because 9 - 11 min HG. I agree it is unfair in HG now for most who commit to hitting PRince. The HG now is just filled with leechers. The only way to make something that was once 'worth' the time to do is to extended it so that it is no longer worth it.

 

[kituco 0]

But it is not anymore when I am dying by hitkill from the monsters that surround the arena. I am a 12x archer and even using my shield and having VL I can't make it to end of the HG. Imagine now if I go attack. All the melees that were supposed to tank the monsters around Prince are just running for their lives. Therefore, there's no condition for me, as an archer, to even keep hitting Prince. We all know archers and atalantas are weaker and more probable to die. Except before this change it was alright to survive in the arena and even attack Prince.

 

Also, why make something WAY harder, which now takes around to 2 or 3 times more to be killed and keep the same prizes? Lotta fun to stay 45min inside an arena TRYING to survive and get as reward the same exp as before (25bil) or maybe an inferna force? Sounds really exciting, right? What everyone is talking inside game is that it is just more worth to do a CT3 pq instead of trying your luck on HG, where you will probably end up dying or end up receiving a bad prize.

 

If your argument is that now HG is only for way higher levels, then why keeping the same prizes?

My opinion is: make the monsters around weaker as they were before. This way archers and atalantas will be able to attack HG as they did before this change. That's how everyone will have fun. And I still think PRINCE (edited) has too many HP. Setting it at 600k would be great.

 

15~20 minutes inside the arena are more than enough every 6 hours.

 

Anyone with me?!

 

I agree to many of your points. But having a 9-11 min HG prizing ranging from junk ppskill, pegg, forces, 25bil exp, to throne items, and now 134 set, they have to do something. HG was one of the main reason why the game economy tanked. suddenly someone gets a throne, and hes almost 2gb richer. All because 9 - 11 min HG. I agree it is unfair in HG now for most who commit to hitting PRince. The HG now is just filled with leechers. The only way to make something that was once 'worth' the time to do is to extended it so that it is no longer worth it.

 

 

Sure, it has to last because there are these grand prizes. Why not increasing Prince's HP up to 1500k and making all the monsters INCLUDING Prince weaker? Everyone would be able to participate & HG would last more than the 10 minutes you mentioned.

[lucasalmeida35 1]

I agree to many of your points. But having a 9-11 min HG prizing ranging from junk ppskill, pegg, forces, 25bil exp, to throne items, and now 134 set, they have to do something. HG was one of the main reason why the game economy tanked. suddenly someone gets a throne, and hes almost 2gb richer. All because 9 - 11 min HG. I agree it is unfair in HG now for most who commit to hitting PRince. The HG now is just filled with leechers. The only way to make something that was once 'worth' the time to do is to extended it so that it is no longer worth it.

 

 

Yeah you're right, but the point is: they should do something balanced. If they wanna keep prince's hp like 93k  its ok, but improve the prizes. No one likes to receive a ppl skill or inferna force as a prize, these itens is useless to 12x+. If they wanna keep these junk prizes, get back 53k of hp.

and about leechers, they could improve that anti-afk, as kick people who not use skills for a time. I don't know how or if it's possible, just a sugestion.

And BTW, i'm a archer too, and can't tank 2 monsters hiting me, even with VL and regeneration field.

 

Sure, it has to last because there are these grand prizes. Why not increasing Prince's HP up to 1500k and making all the monsters INCLUDING Prince weaker? Everyone would be able to participate & HG would last more than the 10 minutes you mentioned.

 

 

yeah, also an excellent suggestion!

[Rawand 0]

and find a new map for hg with a way bigger arena.

[Ian 0]

Hells Gate ALWAYS sucked. I did it about 10 times when the level cap was 140 and I was 140 and only gained 25bill exp reward that didn't add any %. Now you guys are spending 30 minutes +/- to get 25 bill of exp, your better off going to FT1. Enjoy wasting your time.

[SpyBase 0]

they dont go HG for just XP 

 

they trying to get 134 items too

[ooGCoo 0]

I agree to many of your points. But having a 9-11 min HG prizing ranging from junk ppskill, pegg, forces, 25bil exp, to throne items, and now 134 set, they have to do something. HG was one of the main reason why the game economy tanked. suddenly someone gets a throne, and hes almost 2gb richer. All because 9 - 11 min HG. I agree it is unfair in HG now for most who commit to hitting PRince. The HG now is just filled with leechers. The only way to make something that was once 'worth' the time to do is to extended it so that it is no longer worth it.

 

 

Yeah you're right, but the point is: they should do something balanced. If they wanna keep prince's hp like 93k  its ok, but improve the prizes. No one likes to receive a ppl skill or inferna force as a prize, these itens is useless to 12x+. If they wanna keep these junk prizes, get back 53k of hp.

and about leechers, they could improve that anti-afk, as kick people who not use skills for a time. I don't know how or if it's possible, just a sugestion.

And BTW, i'm a archer too, and can't tank 2 monsters hiting me, even with VL and regeneration field.

 

Sure, it has to last because there are these grand prizes. Why not increasing Prince's HP up to 1500k and making all the monsters INCLUDING Prince weaker? Everyone would be able to participate & HG would last more than the 10 minutes you mentioned.

 

 

yeah, also an excellent suggestion!

 

 

What you're expecting is to have a good item to expect from going to HG. The thing is.. the prize for HG is like Ahin at SOD. Everyone wants, but only few can have their grand prize. What's the point if you keep getting what you want? the game will die. This has always been a fact. I've gotten Trings/ Shelt/ Ammy in HG  a long time ago, so i m not gonna complain. I've earned my rewards from HG.

 

A week ago, 8 min per HG to receive 25Bil is just crazy. especially for leechers. u do nothing, sit inside the wall.. just survive. and u get exp or even 134 brace. did you rmb how much the highest offer for the 134 brace?? i dont remember.. but it was like 10k+ coin.. does it make sense to have an HG end in 8 min and end up getting 10k coin?

[ooGCoo 0]

But it is not anymore when I am dying by hitkill from the monsters that surround the arena. I am a 12x archer and even using my shield and having VL I can't make it to end of the HG. Imagine now if I go attack. All the melees that were supposed to tank the monsters around Prince are just running for their lives. Therefore, there's no condition for me, as an archer, to even keep hitting Prince. We all know archers and atalantas are weaker and more probable to die. Except before this change it was alright to survive in the arena and even attack Prince.

 

Also, why make something WAY harder, which now takes around to 2 or 3 times more to be killed and keep the same prizes? Lotta fun to stay 45min inside an arena TRYING to survive and get as reward the same exp as before (25bil) or maybe an inferna force? Sounds really exciting, right? What everyone is talking inside game is that it is just more worth to do a CT3 pq instead of trying your luck on HG, where you will probably end up dying or end up receiving a bad prize.

 

If your argument is that now HG is only for way higher levels, then why keeping the same prizes?

My opinion is: make the monsters around weaker as they were before. This way archers and atalantas will be able to attack HG as they did before this change. That's how everyone will have fun. And I still think PRINCE (edited) has too many HP. Setting it at 600k would be great.

 

15~20 minutes inside the arena are more than enough every 6 hours.

 

Anyone with me?!

 

I agree to many of your points. But having a 9-11 min HG prizing ranging from junk ppskill, pegg, forces, 25bil exp, to throne items, and now 134 set, they have to do something. HG was one of the main reason why the game economy tanked. suddenly someone gets a throne, and hes almost 2gb richer. All because 9 - 11 min HG. I agree it is unfair in HG now for most who commit to hitting PRince. The HG now is just filled with leechers. The only way to make something that was once 'worth' the time to do is to extended it so that it is no longer worth it.

 

 

Sure, it has to last because there are these grand prizes. Why not increasing Prince's HP up to 1500k and making all the monsters INCLUDING Prince weaker? Everyone would be able to participate & HG would last more than the 10 minutes you mentioned.

 

Well by making the monster hit less doesnt make it possible for more people to participate. the reason people arent participating in the arena is cuz they are getting 4fps. u can not pot or hit Prince without dying when the piece of crap can't handle the graphics. -.-"

[Ian 0]

they dont go HG for just XP 

 

they trying to get 134 items too

You mean 134 item? Only brace drop there. And they are worth barely anything already. Seen people selling for 2k-3k.

[ooGCoo 0]

they dont go HG for just XP 

 

they trying to get 134 items too

You mean 134 item? Only brace drop there. And they are worth barely anything already. Seen people selling for 2k-3k.

 

If that's the case, the best suggestion is to stop showing up for HG if it's not worth it.

IMO, if people think its not worth 30 min to stay in hg, lesser people will go; thus it will help cure the lag issue it has been having.

 

 

[Ian 0]

If that's the case, the best suggestion is to stop showing up for HG if it's not worth it.

I took this advice in 2012.

[Geovane 78]

If that's the case, the best suggestion is to stop showing up for HG if it's not worth it.

I took this advice in 2012.

Again? HG was a complete desert months ago. Then GMS started calling ppl to go there and show it was not that hard, HG got easier, and now its harder again. Make your choice, you can get 134 brac/gaunt and other stuff, tho I agree that the prizes should be increased (the chance of getting it). Back when it was released I used to see at least 1 throne part per HG, and now it sucks.

[lucasalmeida35 1]

What you're expecting is to have a good item to expect from going to HG. The thing is.. the prize for HG is like Ahin at SOD. Everyone wants, but only few can have their grand prize. What's the point if you keep getting what you want? the game will die. This has always been a fact. I've gotten Trings/ Shelt/ Ammy in HG  a long time ago, so i m not gonna complain. I've earned my rewards from HG.

 

A week ago, 8 min per HG to receive 25Bil is just crazy. especially for leechers. u do nothing, sit inside the wall.. just survive. and u get exp or even 134 brace. did you rmb how much the highest offer for the 134 brace?? i dont remember.. but it was like 10k+ coin.. does it make sense to have an HG end in 8 min and end up getting 10k coin?

 

I'm not saying someone have to win best prizes in all HG, but at least a good and useful thing. Maybe change prizes. For example, i would be very happy if I won an oredo (shelton), or maybe a saphya. they are cheap, but useful itens.

[kituco 0]

they dont go HG for just XP 

 

they trying to get 134 items too

You mean 134 item? Only brace drop there. And they are worth barely anything already. Seen people selling for 2k-3k.

 

If that's the case, the best suggestion is to stop showing up for HG if it's not worth it.

IMO, if people think its not worth 30 min to stay in hg, lesser people will go; thus it will help cure the lag issue it has been having.

 

Alright, my point was never to talk about the grand prizes.

 

The first point of my argument is that HG is too hard at the moment. I want to participate, I want to have fun. What's the point of not being able to go with my archer? Then I would have to level up a tanker up to 120 to just stay leeching HG but survive?! Seriously?!

GMs have to think and balance it making it playable by all classes. Monsters are hitting too much, they don't aim on only one person, their attacks goes in area, that's why people are dying.

Second, I saw many people discussing about the durance of the event. Yes, I agree around 30 minutes is more than okay when you have a chance (even if being ridiculously small) of getting t-amulets/t-rings (idk if you can get both) or 134 brac. However, how am I going to have that chance if I can barely stay alive inside that arena?!

That's why I mentioned on my other post to make the monsters attack weaker but give a boost to their HP/Prince HP. This way the event would last longer and it would be playable by archers/atalantas.

 

And the prizes, yes, the prizes must be better.

Another option for prizes is to have prizes tiers.

 

i.e:

Lv120 +

-Good prizes & 25bil exp

 

Lv130 +

-Better prizes than Lv120 tier & better exp

 

Lv140 +

-Best prizes & highest exp

 

Chances of getting the grand prizes as t-things + 134 brac should go on every tier but with different % of chance of receiving it as a reward.

[Ian 0]

Make your choice, you can get 134 brac/gaunt and other stuff

Only 134 brace is possible to get as reward, gaunt and boot are not yet released. Only 1 134 gaunt is in server which was dropped during mini monster event manually by GM.

[MrWakaWalrus 3]

they dont go HG for just XP 

 

they trying to get 134 items too

You mean 134 item? Only brace drop there. And they are worth barely anything already. Seen people selling for 2k-3k.

 

If that's the case, the best suggestion is to stop showing up for HG if it's not worth it.

IMO, if people think its not worth 30 min to stay in hg, lesser people will go; thus it will help cure the lag issue it has been having.

 

That was exactly what happened last HG before server went offline for today's maintenance. Lots of people entered, I got usual .5 frames per second. As they were dying/leaving, my fraps started increasing, to 16 - 22 fps. I could attack, defend, kill. I got happy because it was less laggish as the beggining and even happier because of less people pursuing throne set/134 brac and values of these items would go up with scarcity.