PVP Class balance

[neog 10]

There have been several discussions later about some classes being OP when it comes to PvP, so me and Doug decided to put the main stats of all classes to make it easier to compare.

All the stats bellow were taken considering 10% bonus of BC and SOL force. The chars had the build changed to use the most common builds for PvP.

 

 

I believe it is very clear that Pikeman is much strong than any other char, and most of the people have already noticed that and are now changing class.

Just check the number of 15x chars of each class:

 

Fighter: 2

Mechanician: 2

Archer: 4

Pikeman: 13

Atalanta: 4

Knight: 2

Magician: 1

Priestess: 1

 

Feel free to post your comments and ideas, if you don't agree please post your arguments so we can have a nice discussion.

 

 

 

[LotonTow 0]

ahah its a PS / ATA SERVER =]

 

and if ps nerf....who ever can change class will change...and who cant do it...will stay stuck or trade or quit..

 

 

same story =\

[luksblink 0]

Why does Atalanta hasn't a '2h' like everyone does?

[neog 10]

  On 10/22/2014 at 11:23 AM, luksblink said:

Why does Atalanta hasn't a '2h' like everyone does?

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Bcuz ata does not use 2 hand weapons.

[neog 10]

  On 10/22/2014 at 11:21 AM, LotonTow said:

ahah its a PS / ATA SERVER =]

 

and if ps nerf....who ever can change class will change...and who cant do it...will stay stuck or trade or quit..

 

 

same story =\

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In my opinion the chars must be balanced, otherwise everyone will be pike in this server which will just ruin the game.

I don't think your argument is a reason to keep one char unbalanced.

[OverYourHead 0]

  On 10/22/2014 at 11:31 AM, neog said:

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ahah its a PS / ATA SERVER =]

 

and if ps nerf....who ever can change class will change...and who cant do it...will stay stuck or trade or quit..

 

 

same story =\

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In my opinion the chars must be balanced, otherwise everyone will be pike in this server which will just ruin the game.

I don't think your argument is a reason to keep one char unbalanced.

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Totally agree, pike is op atm. Has too much of everything, evade, high crit, best defense with 2h, high attack rating, all that without giving anything back, no abs, attr, defense loss, ...

[LotonTow 0]

okie..so lts say ps get nerf...then what ?

 

1. anohter class will take the title "op"

2.many players who play ps ..will change class or try trade they account

3. people who cant change or fail to trade will quit or just stuck with "nerf" class

 

so the point is....not to the nerf pikeman class...the point is maybe to make anohter class little better or just all the class and re blanced everythings {if its even possible}

or just keep it that way.....since pirstontale tale game begin PS and FS know as the best pvp char..so let it be...

 

 

[OverYourHead 0]

  On 10/22/2014 at 12:32 PM, LotonTow said:

okie..so lts say ps get nerf...then what ?

 

1. anohter class will take the title "op"

2.many players who play ps ..will change class or try trade they account

3. people who cant change or fail to trade will quit or just stuck with "nerf" class

 

so the point is....not to the nerf pikeman class...the point is maybe to make anohter class little better or just all the class and re blanced everythings {if its even possible}

or just keep it that way.....since pirstontale tale game begin PS and FS know as the best pvp char..so let it be...

 

 

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Its not nerf dude, its balance. The char will not  necessarily suck after balance, it will be ok as the some of the other classes, making things fair. What do you have to say about knight class? Knights sucks atm and the players still there, if u want a op class to kick everyone ass with hitkill skills u must learn how to play the game. Pikes are "more than good", after the balance it will be "good" not GOD!

[neog 10]

I'm not saying that pikes should be weak, I'm asking it to be balanced against the other classes.

Check the numbers, pike is the best tanker and the best killer and the difference is huge against any other class.

I'm fine with the idea that pikes continue as a good PvP char, but the way it is today is just totally unbalanced.

If the char is balanced it will still be good and only those with less skills will feel the need to change to another class.

[[BLiiND] 0]

dont forget ata can stun enemies as well and ms can use crit bug for high dmg

[Doug 1]

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dont forget ata can stun enemies as well and ms can use crit bug for high dmg

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Ok ata can stun.

 

And tell me more about this Critic bug please.

[[BLiiND] 0]

  On 10/22/2014 at 3:46 PM, Doug said:

And tell me more about this Critic bug please.

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go ask the 2 high lvl ms in your clan^^ i no post on here for teach other

[Doug 1]

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go ask the 2 high lvl ms in your clan^^ i no post on here for teach other

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Right if you dont know what you are talking so, don't post here to talk shit, thank you.

[[BLiiND] 0]

  On 10/22/2014 at 3:51 PM, Doug said:

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go ask the 2 high lvl ms in your clan^^ i no post on here for teach other

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Right if you dont know what you are talking so, don't post here to talk shit, thank you.

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why would i post here for all gamer to see? u crazy guy? go away, thank you

[Doug 1]

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go ask the 2 high lvl ms in your clan^^ i no post on here for teach other

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Right if you dont know what you are talking so, don't post here to talk shit, thank you.

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why would i post here for all gamer to see? u crazy guy? go away, thank you

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Who are talking shit here ? if you don't know which bug is don't tell.

 

YES have a bug on mech, in compulsion, in MAXIMIZE ( make mech got 3k MAX DAMAGE ) and not critical.

 

Stop talk shits ty.

[KoRnzxk 0]

fs have this atk pow with crown or with out crown, because in this case my character is bug Lol

[cacadordeprexeca 0]

  On 10/22/2014 at 4:32 PM, KoRnzxk said:

fs have this atk pow with crown or with out crown, because in this case my character is bug Lol

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with crown and sol force... dont forget that his FS is 151 with axe +22

[neog 10]

  On 10/22/2014 at 4:32 PM, KoRnzxk said:

fs have this atk pow with crown or with out crown, because in this case my character is bug Lol

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It is with crown + sol force + berseker.

[neog 10]

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go ask the 2 high lvl ms in your clan^^ i no post on here for teach other

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If you are talking about me I really have no idea what you are talking about. The only thing I know is that you can get a higher critical with sword, but that is not a bug at all.

You don't have to post bugs here but you should do it on the bug report section, use the only_admin code so it doesn't go public. Unless of course you or your friends are using that.

Please let's keep the conversation about the topic. Go to GoF if you want to continue making wrong accusations.

[-BORG- 0]

anta gorda, ta falando de balanceamento nao de lag.

[Seirin_Tetsuya 0]

  On 10/22/2014 at 4:59 PM, neog said:

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And tell me more about this Critic bug please.

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go ask the 2 high lvl ms in your clan^^ i no post on here for teach other

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If you are talking about me I really have no idea what you are talking about. The only thing I know is that you can get a higher critical with sword, but that is not a bug at all.

You don't have to post bugs here but you should do it on the bug report section, use the only_admin code so it doesn't go public. Unless of course you or your friends are using that.

Please let's keep the conversation about the topic. Go to GoF if you want to continue making wrong accusations.

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Yes, your MS is bug coz its 156 hahaha

[Dawn 5]

  On 10/22/2014 at 5:01 PM, KriKa. said:

all viets abuse lag and ....

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is this coming from someone in Reapers?

[Ices 18]

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go ask the 2 high lvl ms in your clan^^ i no post on here for teach other

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Theres no critical bug on MS. You didn't know what are you saying, lol.

 

If really have a "critical" bug on mech, make a report topic or send this to Wartale to fix.

 

And isn't a bug, is a error on Maximize mech' skill. If they fix this mech will get so weak on pvp than a priestess, since they have a compulsion + absorption bug

 

 

[Marçal 1]

  On 10/22/2014 at 6:35 PM, Dawn said:

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all viets abuse lag and ....

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is this coming from someone in Reapers?

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I would say exactly it.

 

@topic: nice table Vince, let's pray for any admin AT LEAST reply here.

[LotonTow 0]

just let admin and gms to do they work

not need to keep talk on that.

 

and some1 say knight are suck ?

well in pvp they not kings  but in hg / quest icemine (when it was active)

/ hunt in di they way better then a pike .

 

but anyway what ever ppl say here they right  and worng ...  so just let  it be