PVP Class balance

[KoRnzxk 0]

  On 10/24/2014 at 6:46 PM, OverYourHead said:

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Ks don't need atack power, he need ATK RATE, sandurr remove the 70% rate of GC =;=

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+1

ks was strong too  atk

add few block on  as be great

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Ask for more block to archer, a well balanced char... and start crying when someone suggest a ks boost  the char who need it most hahaha. Always trying to favor his class over others. Wheres the tank hability cuz i see ks dying with 1 hit by pikes and atalanta because of his shitty hp, and with dat low damage cant kill anything about his lvl at bc, not to mention its bugged attack ratting. Gezz

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i think because low lvl or items ks tank very good with vl or without vl and atk pow is good too need more atk rating  and I do not think the person who kills you have  same lvl

 

I also think that the worst character is fs and ks now and pike is Top very strong

[emad 0]

LOL KNIGHTS HAVE NOTHING.... Dude Please give knights + HP Spec Bonus.

[KoRnzxk 0]

  On 10/24/2014 at 9:43 PM, emad said:

LOL KNIGHTS HAVE NOTHING.... Dude Please give knights + HP Spec Bonus.

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Lol Knight is the best in Hg  are nothing ? yeah ks no need more hp + shield  = immortal , ks need more atk rtg not hp

[lordbowie 18]

  On 10/24/2014 at 9:43 PM, emad said:

LOL KNIGHTS HAVE NOTHING.... Dude Please give knights + HP Spec Bonus.

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lol wtf?

ks better than archer os ata

ks tank  and kill better than ranger lol

ofc ranger have more critical.

but die so fast.

ks  just need  more atk rat

[KoRnzxk 0]

complain that they do not kill in Bc ask for add more Hp for tank wdf  ??? ???

[neog 10]

  On 10/24/2014 at 6:41 PM, LotonTow said:

well  to day was a great fun pvp

and we were most of the time same numbers at the area

and neog tank 4-5 and still atk .. sometimes he die sometimes he kill

but he stand again 4-5 when his team died.

 

also ya he died also 1 hit from jc / cs / sm  but he tank many most of the time

and kill us .

 

no pike or fs can ever do that .

 

my opinin is ms and ps  top pvp

and also ata can be very hard to kill sometimes

 

so there is noting to change . only boots ks char abit and that it

good job admins

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Neog is mec, the class that is supposed to be tanker and still died for a char 20 lvls bellow with 120 +20 scythe while using 1h with a hit kill.

Can you imagine a char 20 lvls bellow you able to hit kill you while you use 1 hand?

A pike with 2h can tank the same as a mec with 1h. A pike with 1h is nearly immortal.

 

Just take a look into the game, how many people gave up on their favorite classes to play pike?

 

In my opinion pikes need:

- increase a lot the delay of vanish and nerf it.

- nerf drastically the add of jump (less than half of what it is today - after all it is a T1 skill and not needed)

- reduce the evade of Vague and reduce the block of Weapon Defense Mastery.

 

If that is done, pikes will still be the best PvP class but closer to others.

 

 

[DrRightousness 18]

??? we all know pikes own pvp atm, so then why are pike items some of the cheapest in rpt? 130 scythe cheaper than any 130 weapons besides maybe Hammer?, Axe coming in 2nd/3rd, then Claw, and im not sure of the rest.

 

is it because all a pike needs a is a noob +20 weapon? such as 120 scythe

[Ian 0]

  On 10/25/2014 at 2:25 PM, neog said:

In my opinion pikes need:

- increase a lot the delay of vanish and nerf it.

- nerf drastically the add of jump (less than half of what it is today - after all it is a T1 skill and not needed)

- reduce the evade of Vague and reduce the block of Weapon Defense Mastery.

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Also:

-increase the delay on CS (make it like amazon rage for ata)

-decrease current added damage of cs from 120% to 40% at level 10

-lower shirken level 10 bonus of +10% damage on sm to +10 attack rating for sm instead

-decrease SM to 3 hits instead of current 7 at level 10

-boost pike wind and lower delay

-lower crit of AE to +5% instead of current +46%

-remove added block on 2h scythes

-lower hp formula of PS

-nerf critical mastery from 18% to 9% at level 10

 

And still..

 

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If that is done, pikes will still be the best PvP class but closer to others.

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[Ices 18]

  On 10/25/2014 at 6:58 PM, DrRightousness said:

??? we all know pikes own pvp atm, so then why are pike items some of the cheapest in rpt? 130 scythe cheaper than any 130 weapons besides maybe Hammer?, Axe coming in 2nd/3rd, then Claw, and im not sure of the rest.

 

is it because all a pike needs a is a noob +20 weapon? such as 120 scythe

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Because isn't easy to exp by himself a pike and don't have too many 140 pikemans, and they already have a 130 +20~+21 scythe.

 

If you -140, better use a 126 +22 scythe or 120 +20 scythe, don't have reason to use a 130 mixed or low aged.

 

[neog 10]

  On 10/25/2014 at 7:06 PM, Ian said:

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In my opinion pikes need:

- increase a lot the delay of vanish and nerf it.

- nerf drastically the add of jump (less than half of what it is today - after all it is a T1 skill and not needed)

- reduce the evade of Vague and reduce the block of Weapon Defense Mastery.

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Also:

-increase the delay on CS (make it like amazon rage for ata)

-decrease current added damage of cs from 120% to 40% at level 10

-lower shirken level 10 bonus of +10% damage on sm to +10 attack rating for sm instead

-decrease SM to 3 hits instead of current 7 at level 10

-boost pike wind and lower delay

-lower crit of AE to +5% instead of current +46%

-remove added block on 2h scythes

-lower hp formula of PS

-nerf critical mastery from 18% to 9% at level 10

 

And still..

 

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If that is done, pikes will still be the best PvP class but closer to others.

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Leave this topic for people that can argument with a minimum of understanding.

I'm sure you need to keep the class you play OP, but post your opinions with arguments or stay quiet.

[Ian 0]

  On 10/25/2014 at 9:19 PM, neog said:

Leave this topic for people that can argument with a minimum of understanding.

I'm sure you need to keep the class you play OP, but post your opinions with arguments or stay quiet.

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So..you should leave then. U mad bro? Lets try again with 2 crowns now.

[neog 10]

  On 10/25/2014 at 9:20 PM, Ian said:

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Leave this topic for people that can argument with a minimum of understanding.

I'm sure you need to keep the class you play OP, but post your opinions with arguments or stay quiet.

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So..you should leave then. U mad bro? Lets try again with 2 crowns now.

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Is that your best argument?

If you want a flame war open a topic on GoF.

[Ian 0]

  On 10/25/2014 at 9:34 PM, neog said:

Is that your best argument?

If you want a flame war open a topic on GoF.

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Argument? Where do you see an argument? Remember how we talked about you needing a new pair of glasses? 

I posted my suggestion of how to change pikeman skills just like you posted yours, don't like it? To bad. Should move this topic to Whining Section.

[Guest ThunderiMP]

remove pike from the game pls thx

[neog 10]

  On 10/25/2014 at 9:45 PM, Ian said:

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Is that your best argument?

If you want a flame war open a topic on GoF.

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Argument? Where do you see an argument? Remember how we talked about you needing a new pair of glasses? 

I posted my suggestion of how to change pikeman skills just like you posted yours, don't like it? To bad. Should move this topic to Whining Section.

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That's exactly my point, I don't see any argument.

[Rhyax 0]

Did anyone delete my post or I just posted in another topic? ;D

[Ian 0]

  On 10/25/2014 at 9:34 PM, neog said:

Is that your best argument?

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That's exactly my point, I don't see any argument.

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First you see one, then you don't see any...double vision?

[neog 10]

  On 10/26/2014 at 7:42 AM, Ian said:

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Is that your best argument?

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That's exactly my point, I don't see any argument.

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First you see one, then you don't see any...double vision?

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Jeez, this is like talking to a door. I'll try to be clearer: I asked if your lack of arguments was your best argument. Got it?

[jhp181818 0]

+1 nerf the ps OP. Nerf the cs or reduce there hp same to knight hp.. Or nerf the evasion. Chracters with high evasion + lagger gets too much advantage on it.

+1 papa neog

[Ian 0]

  On 10/26/2014 at 7:55 AM, neog said:

Jeez, this is like talking to a door. I'll try to be clearer: I asked if your lack of arguments was your best argument. Got it?

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I'm not here to give you arguments just because you want me to. It's not my problem that you have an issue with the pikeman class. I could make an argument and cry about every class if I wanted to by pointing out their strengths and say "mimimi lets nerf this class because of this and lets nerf that class because of that", but guess what, I don't. You know why? Because its a GAME. Unlike some people, I didn't spend thousands of dollars in a GAME (maybe that's why you have been QQ'ing so much), therefore I could care less what happens to what class because I will continue to play this GAME on my free time.

 

Let me be clearer: Grow up.

[OverYourHead 0]

Please be on topic, post ur arguments and opinion and that is all. If u want to QQ or complain go to winning section. People just come to rage trying to protect their OP pikeman class, saying useless crap which will not help the topic in anything. Grow up its just a game... if u waste ur money changing class its ur problem, the chass is visible OP and deserves a nerf asap.

[Ian 0]

  On 10/26/2014 at 11:25 PM, Bumerangue said:

Erm... few corrections.

You're not giving arguments because you don't have them.

You can whine about anything you want, what is pretty much different than an argument. So, no, you cannot make an argument about every class just by poiting out what you want. And you don't do that because you have no base even to think how to start it.

Yes, this is a game. And if you have ever studied anything about games (what I am 100% sure you never did) you'd know that balance on a game is very important, one of the most needed things to achieve and hardest to get.

Unlike some people, you don't have anything for you to play. You are allowed by someone that spent a lot on a game, what is, ironically, the people you criticize, so you should be the very last opinion to be counted in any matter.

And you will continue playing this game as long as you're allowed to do so. Because you don't have your own thing to play.

 

In the end, you're acting like a kid and telling people to grow up. Very clever.

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Let me correct you, is that alright with you?

I'm not giving any arguments not because I don't have any, but beacuse I choose not to. After all, this is a GAME, why should I bitch and moan about what I would and would not like to happen in a GAME? I just play when I have free time, its not my life, like some people.

I could go on and on giving suggestions about what I think would improve certain classes, but I don't. I leave that up to the people that run this server, after all, it is their server.

You are right about one thing, I will give you that. I have never ever studied a GAME. I don't know about where your from, but where I'm from games are meant for fun. Last time I checked, studying was not "fun". Maybe for nerds like you it is, but I wont judge.

Unlike some people, I do have something to play. I've never spent 1 cent in this server, again, unlike some people. Why should my opinion not count? Just because I dont own my own character in a GAME? I remember when your opinion used to count, good ol' days. Unfortunately, your just a nobody now like everyone else. I do play here right? I have my own opinions, but most of the time keep it to myself, after all, this is a GAME. I don't take it serious like some people. Gotta love when people get mad so fast over a GAME, its actually one of the reasons I continue to play.^^

The ones acting like kids are the ones suggesting non sense. If you don't like it, don't play, its very simple. If the owners of the server want to make changes to the game, they will. Maybe you don't know by now (I don't know how since you've been here since God knows when) but the head admin doesn't really even look here much, making this whole topic useless.

 

In the end, you like to talk like your very clever but your not. You're just as bad as anyone else adding fuel to the fire, after all, its a GAME.

Calm down little boy, don't get your panties all up in a bunch.

[Ian 0]

  On 10/26/2014 at 7:55 AM, neog said:

Jeez, this is like talking to a door.

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Sorry, I'm not reading. As you said before you're not willing to bring any argument, I have no interest on wasting my time with you.

 

Peace.

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Ever heard the phrase: "Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out"?

It just did.

 

Peace.

 

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[Marçal 1]

Is it right? Do you think it's ok one class killing everyone with 1 hit and tanking 5~6 players (or even more lol) ?? Do you consider a topic about BALANCE as a whine just because you're benefited with that?

 

Seriously, stay quiet, you're smarter than it.

 

  On 10/26/2014 at 9:59 PM, Ian said:

Let me be clearer: Grow up.

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[Ian 0]

  On 10/27/2014 at 12:06 AM, Marçal said:

Do you consider a topic about BALANCE as a whine just because you're benefited with that?

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Nah, I don't.

 

But when I read garbage like this I do:

 

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In my opinion pikes need:

- increase a lot the delay of vanish and nerf it.

- nerf drastically the add of jump (less than half of what it is today - after all it is a T1 skill and not needed)

- reduce the evade of Vague and reduce the block of Weapon Defense Mastery.

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Did you see me make any reply's before that nonsense was posted? People are entitled to their own opinions, but when you make suggestions like that its simply whining.

 

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Edit* Bumerangue 01:02:24 Viewing the topic PVP Class balance.  : :

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There's more to read than whatever you post. Don't give yourself that much value. I don't.

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Really? How many post were between yours and mine in that long span of 3 minutes? Again, your still replying to me, "wasting your time". Sorry that I do that to you, I know im hard to resist, I hear it often.