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sharman
  On 10/29/2014 at 4:00 PM, Ices said:

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Every char  have their own advantage and their own disadvantage.

Pikeman:

BC: they are the best 1v1 char in this server because they have AE and ice( which is the strongest 1x1 skill in this server), but War to bring out the maximum damg you have to follow and AE your enemy all the time which is very boring...

Hunt, Sod,Exp: they can not hunt , SOD nor exp.

That's why Pikeman are the best 1v1 char in BC, and that is the case pike 14x sometimes can kill 15x ( its all about LUCK not SKILLS.)

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Alright, they have to follow their victims, but always (or 1/2 times) pikes got the 'critical' hit and if he dont get, will have the +80% increase damage for 1st hit. Also, pikemans have attack rating like rangers, so the chance of fail hits isn't too high. Isn't about lucky.

 

They can hunt, seriously, if you guys think the 'problem' is because they need use crystals... Every hunt map drop so much crystals and really, crystals is too cheap in NPC. I already tried hunt with PS and i know what i'm talking about, they aren't the BEST HUNTER but they can kill mob fast and efficient. And when they get released (maybe in 2017 lol) Shadow Clone they will have a pet atleast. Try go hunt with a MGS and you will see what is a char who can't do a decent hunt with 1x1 skills.

 

About EXP, nowadays pikemans is getting killer slots because of high range of tornado plus the poison skill, so, this isn't a problem.

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yes i understand you point of view. but CRIT is the matter of LUCK in this game. because there is no way the aver PIKE have 9x% crit.( AE, Crit passive + weapon crit)

Pikeman is OP because  AE of PIKE are Bug... it used to BE  ADD crit to the target you hit, but now When you AE a MULE on SAFEZone you still have th extra crit(46) on all enemy in Battle Zone.

But in battle zone, PS on BSB and take a lot of time to do so, (Vanish, AE, CS,SM and the time you run) and for FS, You can jump in on the side Roar then you can kill tons of enemies...

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sharman

thats why i said PIKE are  THE BEST x1 in this server but not Fighter.

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KoRnzxk
  On 10/29/2014 at 4:10 PM, sharman said:

thats why i said PIKE are  THE BEST x1 in this server but not Fighter.

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u too dont understand my point u  talk fs is the best in war?  -- false ata and archer is the best in war  without pike stop talk th fs is best to pike is false, stop talk fs is best in war false too  100%-101% critic is not lucky

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sharman
  On 10/29/2014 at 4:11 PM, KoRnzxk said:

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thats why i said PIKE are  THE BEST x1 in this server but not Fighter.

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u too dont understand my point u  talk fs is the best in war?  -- false ata and archer is the best in war  without pike stop talk th fs is best to pike is false, stop talk fs is best in war false too

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ok sure i will stop right here, thank you for all reading my post. :)

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  On 10/29/2014 at 4:13 PM, sharman said:

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thats why i said PIKE are  THE BEST x1 in this server but not Fighter.

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u too dont understand my point u  talk fs is the best in war?  -- false ata and archer is the best in war  without pike stop talk th fs is best to pike is false, stop talk fs is best in war false too

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ok sure i will stop right here, thank you for all reading my post. :)

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thank you for comment and defend their point of view but it's actually wrong

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i have reading all the post.

I ADMIT THAT IS PS IS OVERPOWER. BUT PS, ATA nor ARCHER are the BEST chars at WAR.

PS only BSB that's not how WAR suppose to be. ( i guess it had change so much in last 5 years of RPT.)

ATA and ARCHER both deal good damg, def skills and def. But they will never  be near FIGHTER. ( actually my FIGHTER BUILD)

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  On 10/29/2014 at 4:17 PM, sharman said:

i have reading all the post.

I ADMIT THAT IS PS IS OVERPOWER. BUT PS, ATA nor ARCHER are the BEST chars at WAR.

PS only BSB that's not how WAR suppose to be. ( i guess it had change so much in last 5 years of RPT.)

ATA and ARCHER both deal good damg, def skills and def. But they will never  be near FIGHTER. ( actually my FIGHTER BUILD)

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Lol archer and ata is best  in war can atack long and have stunn too , can atack in area ,and if much has changed in 5 years

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  On 10/29/2014 at 3:56 PM, LotonTow said:

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you all forget 1 thing

full t5 didnt come out yet,

once all the chars have a full t5 skill

then talk about nerf if will need .

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http://www.realmpt.net/videos/5

 

Do you know this? Have you ever watched this video?

Tell me, when did they release this?

 

Are you serious on that t5 bullshit?

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well its not our fault right ??

did you see the skills that miss to as/knight/ and fruiting fs?

also ata and ms miss skills

 

so ya need fruiting wait for t5 for all chars

then talk about nerf

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Now I finally agree with you. The balance should be done after the T5 is released.

But let's be honest, is anyone here expecting T5 to be released anytime soon?

Apart from few bug fixes and server issues nothing has been done in this server for ages.

So, in my opinion, the admin should balance the classes now (which is fast and simple) and review it when new T5 skills are released (which might never happen).

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we all want better server and balanced  but from anohter side need to understand that each class have  + and -  so in this case will be useless to nerf ps or improve ohters class,  i think will be just better to wait for all t5 come ( hope soon) and then will be more easy to admins / gms  to check all class when all t5 out.

 

right now    ps maybe best in pvp  but fs / ms / ata and as  very good as well

and mage full dnt mage gear also op

so realy just need to wait for t5 and then see

 

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i argeed with you, for all the players this is GAME, but for GM/Admins this is not just their game, this is their JOBS/FUTURE/MONEY e.t.c. they are the only people CARE so much about this Game.

and EVERY CHARS have  their TIME.( this is  one of the best way to run a BUSINESS)

let all be patience and wait ^.^ ( its really to hard to balance  when the 2 new classes and all tier 5 haven't release yet.)

and i know GM already know  it by now but why he haven't fix it yet. i think he have his point of view too.

 

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  On 10/29/2014 at 3:30 PM, sharman said:

Every char  have their own advantage and their own disadvantage.

Pikeman:

BC: they are the best 1v1 char in this server because they have AE and ice( which is the strongest 1x1 skill in this server), but War to bring out the maximum damg you have to follow and AE your enemy all the time which is very boring...

Hunt: badly,use Pot

Sod: Bad

Exp: Bad

That's why Pikeman are the best 1v1 char in BC, and that is the case pike 14x sometimes can kill 15x ( its all about LUCK not SKILLS.)

 

Fighter:

BC: they are the best WAR char in this server, because they have ROAR( which is the strongest defensive skills in this server)  they have most decent and balance damge in this server, they have the damg both with 1 handed and 2 handed, and they more advantage with VL. ( in case of x1... I rarely LOSE to any pike +1,2 levels above me, with the same items and  with VL.)

Hunt: bad

Sod: badly

Exp: bad

That's why Fighter are the best WAR char in BC.

 

Knight:

Bc: they are doing a decent damg with 2 handed, but with 1handed they don't have damg,( they have Godly Shield, for me is the strongest buffs skills for 1 handed)  I think Knight used to be 1 of the most balance char  in this server, But I THINK GM NEED TO BUFFS SOME SKILLS, STATS FOR KNIGHT TO DO QUEST.

hunt: they can hunt but CAN NOT do Quest.

Sod : badly.

Exp :  can exp low lvl, high level CAN'T do Q nor exp map

Gm need to buffs some skill or stats for Knight and let Knight able to do Q.( really Hard...)

 

Mech:

BC: with  perfect Gear, Mech only second to Pikeman in x1 and Second to FS in War.( because of the Crit/ instinct death of GS) The only problems with Mech is you have to Max your gear with full defense. Never use 2 handed ( get a bow or jav for 2 handed) Because with maximize items, The only 2 skills are you have to worry about is JC and CS ( which is 1 hit K-O with CRIT)

Hunt: good.

Quest : tank or lure.

SOD: tank

Exp:  Tank or Lure.

for me, right now I think Mech are the better version of Knight. ( with max items, there is no way Knight is better than Mech atm)

 

Atalanta

BC: Good at  both War and x1(but its take some time to kill a enemy), because they  are range classes. they have good damg, good defense, useful skill : Frost jav, Strike shield. for me, Atalanta is the best and most well balance char right now.

hunt: good/Top

Quest: Top

Sod: good

exp: Good ( both ad3 and Q)

 

Archer:

Bc: like Atalanta, Archer are both good at War but I consider it's weaker in x1 than Ata( because 1 handed bow are weaker than jav) But is got advantage of longer stunt. Fastest char in this server, but one of the weakest ( def) in this server.

Hunt: good/Top

Quest: Top ( I prefer ata because ata can take more damg)

Sod: Good with team, and ALONE :D

Exp: ( only Quest)

 

Priest:

BC: Buff chars. ( most important chars:P)

Hunt: Top ( undead only)

Quest:  Lure.

Sod: Top

Exp: Top

 

Magician:

BC : Best Overall chars for BC. ( used to be most annoying Char in BC but thank to PRIEST ICE METEORITE  Mages disto are USELESS)

Hunt: good but boring.

Quest: I don't think Mage can do Q???

Sod: Top.

Exp Top.

 

 

this is my opinion, if you see something is not right or you have another ideas I'm more than happy to take your feedback :)

Ti.

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Long time ago in a far far away galaxy u could use the argument that pikes should be the best at PVP because they cant do anything else. For your information, Pikes CAN DO EVERYTHING ELSE better than Ks, Fs.

 

Sod: Tornado is a lot better than fs's cyclone or the poor ks's brandish, can make a decent score at sod. Conclusion: Wayyyyy better than Knights or Fighters or even Meks..

 

XP: Dude they can even be killers at Di Q LOL, while ks or fs are lucky if they get invited to be lurer in Q pt... Pike can do xp a LOT better than Knights or Fighters. Stop posting such bullshit.

 

Hunt: Only in ur mind pikes are unable to hunt... buy hell crystal and u will see u can kill a mob faster than Fs ( Fs dont have pet to hunt for your info). Even if u compare ps hunt agains ks (when killing undead) pikes will not do bad... Stop the lies.

 

Your arguments are total bullshit. There's no justificative to pikes be that GOD in PVP. Its clearly unbalanced... Stop defending the class with crap arguments like urs.

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  On 10/29/2014 at 4:21 PM, KoRnzxk said:

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i have reading all the post.

I ADMIT THAT IS PS IS OVERPOWER. BUT PS, ATA nor ARCHER are the BEST chars at WAR.

PS only BSB that's not how WAR suppose to be. ( i guess it had change so much in last 5 years of RPT.)

ATA and ARCHER both deal good damg, def skills and def. But they will never  be near FIGHTER. ( actually my FIGHTER BUILD)

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Lol archer and ata is best  in war can atack long and have stunn too , can atack in area ,and if much has changed in 5 years

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thats doesnt make them the best chars in WAR.

ARcher stunt long duration ( 1 player hit) not useful in WAR.

ATA strike shield  hit multiple player ( short duration) not useful in WAR.

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the best stunt skill in this game is ROAR. which is combine both ATA and archer stunt.

Anyway, if you have a Fighter chars in game, please send me a message  if you want to  trade ideas about Fighter. i will happy to learn new things about Fighter.

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  On 10/29/2014 at 4:24 PM, OverYourHead said:

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Every char  have their own advantage and their own disadvantage.

Pikeman:

BC: they are the best 1v1 char in this server because they have AE and ice( which is the strongest 1x1 skill in this server), but War to bring out the maximum damg you have to follow and AE your enemy all the time which is very boring...

Hunt: badly,use Pot

Sod: Bad

Exp: Bad

That's why Pikeman are the best 1v1 char in BC, and that is the case pike 14x sometimes can kill 15x ( its all about LUCK not SKILLS.)

 

Fighter:

BC: they are the best WAR char in this server, because they have ROAR( which is the strongest defensive skills in this server)  they have most decent and balance damge in this server, they have the damg both with 1 handed and 2 handed, and they more advantage with VL. ( in case of x1... I rarely LOSE to any pike +1,2 levels above me, with the same items and  with VL.)

Hunt: bad

Sod: badly

Exp: bad

That's why Fighter are the best WAR char in BC.

 

Knight:

Bc: they are doing a decent damg with 2 handed, but with 1handed they don't have damg,( they have Godly Shield, for me is the strongest buffs skills for 1 handed)  I think Knight used to be 1 of the most balance char  in this server, But I THINK GM NEED TO BUFFS SOME SKILLS, STATS FOR KNIGHT TO DO QUEST.

hunt: they can hunt but CAN NOT do Quest.

Sod : badly.

Exp :  can exp low lvl, high level CAN'T do Q nor exp map

Gm need to buffs some skill or stats for Knight and let Knight able to do Q.( really Hard...)

 

Mech:

BC: with  perfect Gear, Mech only second to Pikeman in x1 and Second to FS in War.( because of the Crit/ instinct death of GS) The only problems with Mech is you have to Max your gear with full defense. Never use 2 handed ( get a bow or jav for 2 handed) Because with maximize items, The only 2 skills are you have to worry about is JC and CS ( which is 1 hit K-O with CRIT)

Hunt: good.

Quest : tank or lure.

SOD: tank

Exp:  Tank or Lure.

for me, right now I think Mech are the better version of Knight. ( with max items, there is no way Knight is better than Mech atm)

 

Atalanta

BC: Good at  both War and x1(but its take some time to kill a enemy), because they  are range classes. they have good damg, good defense, useful skill : Frost jav, Strike shield. for me, Atalanta is the best and most well balance char right now.

hunt: good/Top

Quest: Top

Sod: good

exp: Good ( both ad3 and Q)

 

Archer:

Bc: like Atalanta, Archer are both good at War but I consider it's weaker in x1 than Ata( because 1 handed bow are weaker than jav) But is got advantage of longer stunt. Fastest char in this server, but one of the weakest ( def) in this server.

Hunt: good/Top

Quest: Top ( I prefer ata because ata can take more damg)

Sod: Good with team, and ALONE :D

Exp: ( only Quest)

 

Priest:

BC: Buff chars. ( most important chars:P)

Hunt: Top ( undead only)

Quest:  Lure.

Sod: Top

Exp: Top

 

Magician:

BC : Best Overall chars for BC. ( used to be most annoying Char in BC but thank to PRIEST ICE METEORITE  Mages disto are USELESS)

Hunt: good but boring.

Quest: I don't think Mage can do Q???

Sod: Top.

Exp Top.

 

 

this is my opinion, if you see something is not right or you have another ideas I'm more than happy to take your feedback :)

Ti.

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Long time ago in a far far away galaxy u could use the argument that pikes should be the best at PVP because they cant do anything else. For your information, Pikes CAN DO EVERYTHING ELSE better than Ks, Fs.

 

Sod: Tornado is a lot better than fs's cyclone or the poor ks's brandish, can make a decent score at sod. Conclusion: Wayyyyy better than Knights or Fighters or even Meks..

 

XP: Dude they can even be killers at Di Q LOL, while ks or fs are lucky if they get invited to be lurer in Q pt... Pike can do xp a LOT better than Knights or Fighters. Stop posting such bullshit.

 

Hunt: Only in ur mind pikes are unable to hunt... buy hell crystal and u will see u can kill a mob faster than Fs ( Fs dont have pet to hunt for your info). Even if u compare ps hunt agains ks (when killing undead) pikes will not do bad... Stop the lies.

 

Your arguments are total bullshit. There's no justificative to pikes be that GOD in PVP. Its clearly unbalanced... Stop defending the class with crap arguments like urs.

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:( you dont get my point....

i said PIKE is BAD not worse than Fighter......

BAD bro BAD BAD not WORSE THAN .....

thats is the post i bring out the BEST point and the WORST point of ever chars....

 

 

 

how can you compare a char that have nothing to do with each others.... Pikeman is Pikeman and Fighter is Fighter :(

Thank you for your feedback.

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  On 10/29/2014 at 4:26 PM, sharman said:

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i have reading all the post.

I ADMIT THAT IS PS IS OVERPOWER. BUT PS, ATA nor ARCHER are the BEST chars at WAR.

PS only BSB that's not how WAR suppose to be. ( i guess it had change so much in last 5 years of RPT.)

ATA and ARCHER both deal good damg, def skills and def. But they will never  be near FIGHTER. ( actually my FIGHTER BUILD)

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Lol archer and ata is best  in war can atack long and have stunn too , can atack in area ,and if much has changed in 5 years

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thats doesnt make them the best chars in WAR.

ARcher stunt long duration ( 1 player hit) not useful in WAR.

ATA strike shield  hit multiple player ( short duration) not useful in WAR.

....

the best stunt skill in this game is ROAR. which is combine both ATA and archer stunt.

Anyway, if you have a Fighter chars in game, please send me a message  if you want to  trade ideas about Fighter. i will happy to learn new things about Fighter.

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to change you I do not just focus on the stun,i focus too in atk rating and atk long ata and as can stun, run , hit fs no. split ata can kill fs 1, ata and as have evade , block, def, fs only def and block  u need read all topic  ks and fs are poor  i playing with fs 7 years i know which stats and skill upload

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  On 10/29/2014 at 4:29 PM, Bumerangue said:

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this is my opinion, if you see something is not right or you have another ideas I'm more than happy to take your feedback :)

Ti.

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PvE is not important. Period.

 

Pikes are the best on PvP because they have Vanish, Assassin Eye, Jumping Crash, Chain Lancer, Charging Strike and Shadow Master, Critical Mastery, Attack Rating Mastery and Weapon Defense Mastery, Shuriken Bonus and Vague, plus the best HP and damage formula of the game. They tank with 2h, they tanka a lot with 1h and they can knock you down with four different attack skills. Any 12x pike can knock out ANY player, it doesn't matter class, level or gear. Pretty much balanced, yes.[/sarcasm]

 

Fighters suck on PvP, in general lines. Their weak point is being the weaker tanker of the whole game, worse than magic and ranged classes, wich is pretty much impressive. They have good offensive power, not enough to worth it's downside. Cyclone Strike is interesting.

 

Knights tank. Their damage is OK, problem is that they don't hit well enough. Lack of successful hits doesn't worth the tanking.

 

Mechs would be fine if they didn't have the small defect of mysteryously taking more damage than anything else. Super boosts on it's skills helped, but it's not the same. I'm hopeless to see them ever working properly in here, so I say they are pretty good in the way they are (atkrate changes, maybe?)

 

Atalantas are weird because of the stupid buff they have. With buff they're really good, without it, not so much. Veangeance is sucking balls. Split still cool, tho.

 

Archers are a mistake. They should deal damage, not evade damage recieved. Whatever, it seems to work and I don't see much more than it being done. So, OK.

 

Priestess

 

Mages, I have no idea. Disto bothers a lot, DR seem to be cool, those AoE stuff are pretty useful.

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yes every CHARS have their TIME. This is how Realmpt do business/(make money)

Pike is a lot stronger than Fighter in general, but the disadvantage is Pike dont have good damg with 1 handed( PS is depend too much on Crit)which  most of the rest does.

Fighter used to be KING of BC, with axe 122.

Knight used to be  KING of BC ( way back then) with Godly Shield ,God Bless and GC.

Mech used to be King of BC  with instinct kill and massive block, def.

Archer used to be King of BC with massive speed and evade.

Ata used to be king of BC with Frost jav, Split and Ven. ( now with chimera)

MAge used t be king of BC with Stone Pike.

Priest used to be queen of BC  with bug of VL.

 

 

why dont we just wait and find which King of Queen come next ^^

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  On 10/29/2014 at 4:37 PM, sharman said:

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this is my opinion, if you see something is not right or you have another ideas I'm more than happy to take your feedback :)

Ti.

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PvE is not important. Period.

 

Pikes are the best on PvP because they have Vanish, Assassin Eye, Jumping Crash, Chain Lancer, Charging Strike and Shadow Master, Critical Mastery, Attack Rating Mastery and Weapon Defense Mastery, Shuriken Bonus and Vague, plus the best HP and damage formula of the game. They tank with 2h, they tanka a lot with 1h and they can knock you down with four different attack skills. Any 12x pike can knock out ANY player, it doesn't matter class, level or gear. Pretty much balanced, yes.[/sarcasm]

 

Fighters suck on PvP, in general lines. Their weak point is being the weaker tanker of the whole game, worse than magic and ranged classes, wich is pretty much impressive. They have good offensive power, not enough to worth it's downside. Cyclone Strike is interesting.

 

Knights tank. Their damage is OK, problem is that they don't hit well enough. Lack of successful hits doesn't worth the tanking.

 

Mechs would be fine if they didn't have the small defect of mysteryously taking more damage than anything else. Super boosts on it's skills helped, but it's not the same. I'm hopeless to see them ever working properly in here, so I say they are pretty good in the way they are (atkrate changes, maybe?)

 

Atalantas are weird because of the stupid buff they have. With buff they're really good, without it, not so much. Veangeance is sucking balls. Split still cool, tho.

 

Archers are a mistake. They should deal damage, not evade damage recieved. Whatever, it seems to work and I don't see much more than it being done. So, OK.

 

Priestess

 

Mages, I have no idea. Disto bothers a lot, DR seem to be cool, those AoE stuff are pretty useful.

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yes every CHARS have their TIME. This is how Realmpt do business/(make money)

Pike is a lot stronger than Fighter in general, but the disadvantage is Pike dont have good damg which  most of the rest does.

Fighter used to be KING of BC, with axe 122.

Knight used to be  KING of BC ( way back then) with Godly Shield ,God Bless and GC.

Mech used to be King of BC  with instinct kill and massive block, def.

Archer used to be King of BC with massive speed and evade.

Ata used to be king of BC with Frost jav, Split and Ven. ( now with chimera)

MAge used t be king of BC with Stone Pike.

Priest used to be queen of BC  with bug of VL.

 

 

why dont we just wait and find which King of Queen come next ^^

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that's being conformist, you talk the  time, I spoke of equality and evenness, no need wait 5 months or 2 week for make Fs top i need all char equality and balance for fun :)

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  On 10/29/2014 at 3:30 PM, sharman said:

 

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yes every CHARS have their TIME. This is how Realmpt do business/(make money)

Pike is a lot stronger than Fighter in general, but the disadvantage is Pike dont have good damg which  most of the rest does.

Fighter used to be KING of BC, with axe 122.

Knight used to be  KING of BC ( way back then) with Godly Shield ,God Bless and GC.

Mech used to be King of BC  with instinct kill and massive block, def.

Archer used to be King of BC with massive speed and evade.

Ata used to be king of BC with Frost jav, Split and Ven. ( now with chimera)

MAge used t be king of BC with Stone Pike.

Priest used to be queen of BC  with bug of VL.

 

 

why dont we just wait and find which King of Queen come next ^^

 

 

LMFAO are u high dude?

 

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  On 10/29/2014 at 4:35 PM, KoRnzxk said:

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i have reading all the post.

I ADMIT THAT IS PS IS OVERPOWER. BUT PS, ATA nor ARCHER are the BEST chars at WAR.

PS only BSB that's not how WAR suppose to be. ( i guess it had change so much in last 5 years of RPT.)

ATA and ARCHER both deal good damg, def skills and def. But they will never  be near FIGHTER. ( actually my FIGHTER BUILD)

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Lol archer and ata is best  in war can atack long and have stunn too , can atack in area ,and if much has changed in 5 years

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thats doesnt make them the best chars in WAR.

ARcher stunt long duration ( 1 player hit) not useful in WAR.

ATA strike shield  hit multiple player ( short duration) not useful in WAR.

....

the best stunt skill in this game is ROAR. which is combine both ATA and archer stunt.

Anyway, if you have a Fighter chars in game, please send me a message  if you want to  trade ideas about Fighter. i will happy to learn new things about Fighter.

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to change you I do not just focus on the stun,i focus too in atk rating and atk long ata and as can stun, run , hit fs no. split ata can kill fs 1, ata and as have evade , block, def, fs only def and block  u need read all topic  ks and fs are poor  i playing with fs 7 years i know which stats and skill upload

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Atk Rate:

Fighter have tons of atk rate, because the main killer skills is AC ( which is 2 hits skill) 

PS CL ( 3 hits skill which need more  atk rate) Pike  CS and CL used to be useless because its miss  A LOT.

Atk long range atk: yes ata and archer have  longer ranger than FS but  its all useless because they dont have killer SKILLS( which is DT, CS,SM) they need COMBO atk to bring down the enemies( which they have to run lesser and be able to tank some damg) and also FS have area Roar with long duration.

Yes i argeed with you have AS  have higher evade but Archer HP,def,abs are lower than melee chars. Also long stunt but Archer stunt  doesnt bring out its best in WAR. ( in x1 yes archer stunt are the best)

Ata Split, there is no way 1 split ata can kill a Fighter, ata need COMBO to kill Fighter ( which is very hard with Fighter+ shield)

i has been playing Pris ton Tale  11years.

 

Fighter and Archer are the HARDEST chars to play in all Pris ton tale i has play. ( some games are balance and some original game they are WEAK.)

those 2 chars along side with Knight  are the chars need ( REQUIRED) to skills of TIMIMG( which you need a good internet) to SWITCH weapon and pot 1,2,3. Because the enemy can take  their lives with a few hit if you dont know how to TIMING and switch weapon, also they can kill the Enemy VERY Quick with Switch weapon. It's called Skills, and thats what we have practice and master it. in BC, Ofc their will be a better chars and every chars have THEIR OWN WEAKNESS and their STRONG POINT. You have to find out and master the way you fight. BC is not just coming in with maximum gear and pot.... all the chars have different way to defeat and you have to bring out the BEST way to kill your enemy.

The chars that i have most difficult to deal with are Mech. used to be Knight, :D

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  On 10/29/2014 at 4:48 PM, OverYourHead said:

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yes every CHARS have their TIME. This is how Realmpt do business/(make money)

Pike is a lot stronger than Fighter in general, but the disadvantage is Pike dont have good damg which  most of the rest does.

Fighter used to be KING of BC, with axe 122.

Knight used to be  KING of BC ( way back then) with Godly Shield ,God Bless and GC.

Mech used to be King of BC  with instinct kill and massive block, def.

Archer used to be King of BC with massive speed and evade.

Ata used to be king of BC with Frost jav, Split and Ven. ( now with chimera)

MAge used t be king of BC with Stone Pike.

Priest used to be queen of BC  with bug of VL.

 

 

why dont we just wait and find which King of Queen come next ^^

 

 

LMFAO are u high dude?

 

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sorry about that :D

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PvE is not important. Period.

 

Pikes are the best on PvP because they have Vanish, Assassin Eye, Jumping Crash, Chain Lancer, Charging Strike and Shadow Master, Critical Mastery, Attack Rating Mastery and Weapon Defense Mastery, Shuriken Bonus and Vague, plus the best HP and damage formula of the game. They tank with 2h, they tanka a lot with 1h and they can knock you down with four different attack skills. Any 12x pike can knock out ANY player, it doesn't matter class, level or gear. Pretty much balanced, yes.[/sarcasm]

 

Fighters suck on PvP, in general lines. Their weak point is being the weaker tanker of the whole game, worse than magic and ranged classes, wich is pretty much impressive. They have good offensive power, not enough to worth it's downside. Cyclone Strike is interesting.

 

Knights tank. Their damage is OK, problem is that they don't hit well enough. Lack of successful hits doesn't worth the tanking.

 

Mechs would be fine if they didn't have the small defect of mysteryously taking more damage than anything else. Super boosts on it's skills helped, but it's not the same. I'm hopeless to see them ever working properly in here, so I say they are pretty good in the way they are (atkrate changes, maybe?)

 

Atalantas are weird because of the stupid buff they have. With buff they're really good, without it, not so much. Veangeance is sucking balls. Split still cool, tho.

 

Archers are a mistake. They should deal damage, not evade damage recieved. Whatever, it seems to work and I don't see much more than it being done. So, OK.

 

Priestess

 

Mages, I have no idea. Disto bothers a lot, DR seem to be cool, those AoE stuff are pretty useful.

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yes every CHARS have their TIME. This is how Realmpt do business/(make money)

Pike is a lot stronger than Fighter in general, but the disadvantage is Pike dont have good damg which  most of the rest does.

Fighter used to be KING of BC, with axe 122.

Knight used to be  KING of BC ( way back then) with Godly Shield ,God Bless and GC.

Mech used to be King of BC  with instinct kill and massive block, def.

Archer used to be King of BC with massive speed and evade.

Ata used to be king of BC with Frost jav, Split and Ven. ( now with chimera)

MAge used t be king of BC with Stone Pike.

Priest used to be queen of BC  with bug of VL.

 

 

why dont we just wait and find which King of Queen come next ^^

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that's being conformist, you talk the  time, I spoke of equality and evenness, no need wait 5 months or 2 week for make Fs top i need all char equality and balance for fun :)

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will you donate to make all chars balance. Like I said we all need to breath, eat, live and GM/Admins are no different,( look at the economic). Real Money, GB=700-750c items are cheap( not +22) NOT MUCH PLAYERS PLAY ON THIS SERVER and Donate. Realmpt used have SW everyday ( not actual SW but PPL come to BC and have a lot of fun) everyday we have fun ,War 6,7 hours( 3,4 hours on the morning and 3,4 hours at night before sleep). and look at it now, 5 mins war....

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i have reading all the post.

I ADMIT THAT IS PS IS OVERPOWER. BUT PS, ATA nor ARCHER are the BEST chars at WAR.

PS only BSB that's not how WAR suppose to be. ( i guess it had change so much in last 5 years of RPT.)

ATA and ARCHER both deal good damg, def skills and def. But they will never  be near FIGHTER. ( actually my FIGHTER BUILD)

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Lol archer and ata is best  in war can atack long and have stunn too , can atack in area ,and if much has changed in 5 years

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thats doesnt make them the best chars in WAR.

ARcher stunt long duration ( 1 player hit) not useful in WAR.

ATA strike shield  hit multiple player ( short duration) not useful in WAR.

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the best stunt skill in this game is ROAR. which is combine both ATA and archer stunt.

Anyway, if you have a Fighter chars in game, please send me a message  if you want to  trade ideas about Fighter. i will happy to learn new things about Fighter.

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to change you I do not just focus on the stun,i focus too in atk rating and atk long ata and as can stun, run , hit fs no. split ata can kill fs 1, ata and as have evade , block, def, fs only def and block  u need read all topic  ks and fs are poor  i playing with fs 7 years i know which stats and skill upload

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also how long have you play Realmpt? Realmpt are different than the rest. its used to SHUT DOWN by YD. but we all glad that Wartale find a way to bring back the DEATH server,and thats the SERVER you are playing now. If you play after the Death Server,  then you have no imagine how GREAT this server used to be.

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ks need add abs rtg 20% whit godlyn shield, whit 1 and 2 hands in pvp , same old time.

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  On 10/29/2014 at 5:05 PM, -BORG- said:

ks need add abs rtg 20% whit godlyn shield, whit 1 and 2 hands in pvp , same old time.

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Oh, really? I guess, not. They already tank fine with shield.

 

Knights just need a bit increase on his attack rating and a damage flood bug fix/increase atk rating in Divine Piercing, just this.

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Fighter have tons of atk rate,

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No.

 

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PS CL ( 3 hits skill which need more  atk rate)

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No.

 

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Pike  CS and CL used to be useless because its miss  A LOT.

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LOL, no.

 

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Atk long range atk: yes ata and archer have  longer ranger than FS but  its all useless because they dont have killer SKILLS( which is DT, CS,SM) they need COMBO atk to bring down the enemies( which they have to run lesser and be able to tank some damg)

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ata need COMBO to kill Fighter ( which is very hard with Fighter+ shield)

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those 2 chars along side with Knight  are the chars need ( REQUIRED) to skills of TIMIMG( which you need a good internet) to SWITCH weapon and pot 1,2,3.

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Bullshit. No.

 

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Because the enemy can take  their lives with a few hit if you dont know how to TIMING and switch weapon,

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also they can kill the Enemy VERY Quick with Switch weapon.

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Ahahahahahahahaha. No.

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you try to break even with me then i guess im done talking with you. just play and if you want to be the best then think of those thing i said to you.

you will hardly to an enemy with only PS, you need both perf and PS....

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  On 10/29/2014 at 4:53 PM, sharman said:

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i have reading all the post.

I ADMIT THAT IS PS IS OVERPOWER. BUT PS, ATA nor ARCHER are the BEST chars at WAR.

PS only BSB that's not how WAR suppose to be. ( i guess it had change so much in last 5 years of RPT.)

ATA and ARCHER both deal good damg, def skills and def. But they will never  be near FIGHTER. ( actually my FIGHTER BUILD)

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Lol archer and ata is best  in war can atack long and have stunn too , can atack in area ,and if much has changed in 5 years

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thats doesnt make them the best chars in WAR.

ARcher stunt long duration ( 1 player hit) not useful in WAR.

ATA strike shield  hit multiple player ( short duration) not useful in WAR.

....

the best stunt skill in this game is ROAR. which is combine both ATA and archer stunt.

Anyway, if you have a Fighter chars in game, please send me a message  if you want to  trade ideas about Fighter. i will happy to learn new things about Fighter.

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to change you I do not just focus on the stun,i focus too in atk rating and atk long ata and as can stun, run , hit fs no. split ata can kill fs 1, ata and as have evade , block, def, fs only def and block  u need read all topic  ks and fs are poor  i playing with fs 7 years i know which stats and skill upload

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Atk Rate:

Fighter have tons of atk rate, because the main killer skills is AC ( which is 2 hits skill) 

PS CL ( 3 hits skill which need more  atk rate) Pike  CS and CL used to be useless because its miss  A LOT.

Atk long range atk: yes ata and archer have  longer ranger than FS but  its all useless because they dont have killer SKILLS( which is DT, CS,SM) they need COMBO atk to bring down the enemies( which they have to run lesser and be able to tank some damg) and also FS have area Roar with long duration.

Yes i argeed with you have AS  have higher evade but Archer HP,def,abs are lower than melee chars. Also long stunt but Archer stunt  doesnt bring out its best in WAR. ( in x1 yes archer stunt are the best)

Ata Split, there is no way 1 split ata can kill a Fighter, ata need COMBO to kill Fighter ( which is very hard with Fighter+ shield)

i has been playing Pris ton Tale  11years.

 

Fighter and Archer are the HARDEST chars to play in all Pris ton tale i has play. ( some games are balance and some original game they are WEAK.)

those 2 chars along side with Knight  are the chars need ( REQUIRED) to skills of TIMIMG( which you need a good internet) to SWITCH weapon and pot 1,2,3. Because the enemy can take  their lives with a few hit if you dont know how to TIMING and switch weapon, also they can kill the Enemy VERY Quick with Switch weapon. It's called Skills, and thats what we have practice and master it. in BC, Ofc their will be a better chars and every chars have THEIR OWN WEAKNESS and their STRONG POINT. You have to find out and master the way you fight. BC is not just coming in with maximum gear and pot.... all the chars have different way to defeat and you have to bring out the BEST way to kill your enemy.

The chars that i have most difficult with in PS are Mech. used to be Knight, :D

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All you need is to go to BC and see with their own eyes the disadvantage that there is so great that apparently goes blind, is true fs only used Stun/ Dt /AC

more ata and archer only used Vengance/split - Perfo/fenix/Stun  u  needs to know as things are in blesscastle, and need more play priston tale by their lack of knowledge is vast/big

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  On 10/29/2014 at 5:08 PM, KoRnzxk said:

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i have reading all the post.

I ADMIT THAT IS PS IS OVERPOWER. BUT PS, ATA nor ARCHER are the BEST chars at WAR.

PS only BSB that's not how WAR suppose to be. ( i guess it had change so much in last 5 years of RPT.)

ATA and ARCHER both deal good damg, def skills and def. But they will never  be near FIGHTER. ( actually my FIGHTER BUILD)

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Lol archer and ata is best  in war can atack long and have stunn too , can atack in area ,and if much has changed in 5 years

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thats doesnt make them the best chars in WAR.

ARcher stunt long duration ( 1 player hit) not useful in WAR.

ATA strike shield  hit multiple player ( short duration) not useful in WAR.

....

the best stunt skill in this game is ROAR. which is combine both ATA and archer stunt.

Anyway, if you have a Fighter chars in game, please send me a message  if you want to  trade ideas about Fighter. i will happy to learn new things about Fighter.

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to change you I do not just focus on the stun,i focus too in atk rating and atk long ata and as can stun, run , hit fs no. split ata can kill fs 1, ata and as have evade , block, def, fs only def and block  u need read all topic  ks and fs are poor  i playing with fs 7 years i know which stats and skill upload

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Atk Rate:

Fighter have tons of atk rate, because the main killer skills is AC ( which is 2 hits skill) 

PS CL ( 3 hits skill which need more  atk rate) Pike  CS and CL used to be useless because its miss  A LOT.

Atk long range atk: yes ata and archer have  longer ranger than FS but  its all useless because they dont have killer SKILLS( which is DT, CS,SM) they need COMBO atk to bring down the enemies( which they have to run lesser and be able to tank some damg) and also FS have area Roar with long duration.

Yes i argeed with you have AS  have higher evade but Archer HP,def,abs are lower than melee chars. Also long stunt but Archer stunt  doesnt bring out its best in WAR. ( in x1 yes archer stunt are the best)

Ata Split, there is no way 1 split ata can kill a Fighter, ata need COMBO to kill Fighter ( which is very hard with Fighter+ shield)

i has been playing Pris ton Tale  11years.

 

Fighter and Archer are the HARDEST chars to play in all Pris ton tale i has play. ( some games are balance and some original game they are WEAK.)

those 2 chars along side with Knight  are the chars need ( REQUIRED) to skills of TIMIMG( which you need a good internet) to SWITCH weapon and pot 1,2,3. Because the enemy can take  their lives with a few hit if you dont know how to TIMING and switch weapon, also they can kill the Enemy VERY Quick with Switch weapon. It's called Skills, and thats what we have practice and master it. in BC, Ofc their will be a better chars and every chars have THEIR OWN WEAKNESS and their STRONG POINT. You have to find out and master the way you fight. BC is not just coming in with maximum gear and pot.... all the chars have different way to defeat and you have to bring out the BEST way to kill your enemy.

The chars that i have most difficult with in PS are Mech. used to be Knight, :D

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All you need is to go to BC and see with their own eyes the disadvantage that there is so great that apparently goes blind, is true fs only used Stun/ Dt /AC

more ata and archer only used Vengance/split - Perfo/fenix/Stun  u  needs to know as things are in blesscastle, and need more play realm pt by their lack of knowledge is vast/big

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you dont go BC  skills and POT, thats what make you not THE BEST. i argeed you need to POT but you have to see how much the enemy  1 skills take how much of your health, ( with 1 hand and 2 hands) then you have to both base on that.

anyway if you interest on trading ideas give me your name in game, i will trading ideas with you in game.( i dont want people whose hate me to know about this :D) i still want to survive in BC

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