WÓ 0 Report post Posted July 21, 2010 as ata ms ps fs ks can kill all, only prs and mgs is hard but mgs has distortion and prs has vl (both are good for help friend in pvp) it about how do u play :> was not made to kill ;D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
December 0 Report post Posted July 21, 2010 as ata ms ps fs ks can kill all, only prs and mgs is hard but mgs has distortion and prs has vl (both are good for help friend in pvp) it about how do u play :> was not made to kill ;D they are only made to help not kill.. i agree with colosu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b1nb1n2010 0 Report post Posted July 21, 2010 at least prs and mage should be able to hunt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMDias 0 Report post Posted July 21, 2010 even after fighter have been nerfed its still own everything on pvp, thats the truth, u dont need to agree with me, but when u go bc u will check it out urself fighter nerfed? where? fighter own is mainly because axe is overpowered, atkpow is much higher than other weapon and is spd8, not spd7 in offical server... I´m not sure but I think the speed of swift axe is lowered. It was 15% at level 10 before, now it's 8%. at least prs and mage should be able to hunt Yes. A little more hard to hunt then another classes, but they should IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Viking Report post Posted July 21, 2010 1- Still, knights are good but it's about the BEST class to PvP, and it's fighter 2- Best char isn't "the one you like". This topic is specific, don't matter how much you like a mage, for example, it's far from being the best class to PvP >__> 3- Yes, as stated above the speed added by Swift Axe got reduced, so no complain about axes with 8 speed~ and LOL since when axes do more damage than any weapon? 4- Fuck what mages and priestess can do or not, this topic isn't about them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rehv 0 Report post Posted July 22, 2010 1- Still, knights are good but it's about the BEST class to PvP, and it's fighter 2- Best char isn't "the one you like". This topic is specific, don't matter how much you like a mage, for example, it's far from being the best class to PvP >__> 3- Yes, as stated above the speed added by Swift Axe got reduced, so no complain about axes with 8 speed~ and LOL since when axes do more damage than any weapon? 4- Fuck what mages and priestess can do or not, this topic isn't about them LOL, see this: http://www.realmpt.com/forum/index.php?topic=7345.0 On the topic, I was inclined toward AS and FS, but heey, not in this game, as bow damage sux and archers cant level up their t4(and yes there's too many useless points on t3 ATM) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Viking Report post Posted July 22, 2010 1- Still, knights are good but it's about the BEST class to PvP, and it's fighter 2- Best char isn't "the one you like". This topic is specific, don't matter how much you like a mage, for example, it's far from being the best class to PvP >__> 3- Yes, as stated above the speed added by Swift Axe got reduced, so no complain about axes with 8 speed~ and LOL since when axes do more damage than any weapon? 4- Fuck what mages and priestess can do or not, this topic isn't about them LOL, see this: http://www.realmpt.com/forum/index.php?topic=7345.0 On the topic, I was inclined toward AS and FS, but heey, not in this game, as bow damage sux and archers cant level up their t4(and yes there's too many useless points on t3 ATM) "lol see this" PFFFFFFFFFT Do you think I don't know about weap stats?? Swords are the weakest meele weapon, that's it. Don't make axes the highest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rehv 0 Report post Posted July 22, 2010 "lol see this" PFFFFFFFFFT Do you think I don't know about weap stats?? Swords are the weakest meele weapon, that's it. Don't make axes the highest Ok I didn't want to do this but here we go: 93-107 axe 78-109 sword 75-95 1h claw 72-96 bow 70-88 1h javelin 83-113 hammer 65-118 pike All stats of 108 weapons excluding staff. Now to business... Axes: 1- Have the highest MIN POW by FAR. 2- With its MIN POW they outstand MAX POW of: claw, bow, javelin. The criteria of being 1h or not doesn't apply here, as we are analyzing raw power. Notice bow freaking LOW ATP =/ 3- Axes have their 1-hand versions, so if we say "let's all do a 1-hand battle", the current: hammer, pike, bow would be WEAK as hell. 4- Only hammer and pike can compare to axe in dmg, but as stated above in a 1on1 battle they lose miserably. I say this because fighter can switch to a shield and still do a good dmg while other weapons doesn't have this 'tank version'. And now tell me why axes aren't the best weapons in this game? See, I'm not complaining "meehhhh axe-users are HAXXXXX NERF it!", I'm just saying that YES, they are that strong. EDIT: oh well I lost my original post because of forum logout, and ended up forgetting to say about this: Yes Axes are supposed to have huge damage, but they were ALSO supposed to be 7 SPD. Don't say "they've nerfed swift axe" because in this sv we have limited skill points so not everybody uses it. Besides, we are talking about wheter axe is the strongest weapon or not, classes excluded. But in the end, this make fighters the best pvp out there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rye 0 Report post Posted July 22, 2010 "lol see this" PFFFFFFFFFT Do you think I don't know about weap stats?? Swords are the weakest meele weapon, that's it. Don't make axes the highest Ok I didn't want to do this but here we go: 93-107 axe 78-109 sword 75-95 1h claw 72-96 bow 70-88 1h javelin 83-113 hammer 65-118 pike All stats of 108 weapons excluding staff. Now to business... Axes: 1- Have the highest MIN POW by FAR. 2- With its MIN POW they outstand MAX POW of: claw, bow, javelin. The criteria of being 1h or not doesn't apply here, as we are analyzing raw power. Notice bow freaking LOW ATP =/ 3- Axes have their 1-hand versions, so if we say "let's all do a 1-hand battle", the current: hammer, pike, bow would be WEAK as hell. 4- Only hammer and pike can compare to axe in dmg, but as stated above in a 1on1 battle they lose miserably. I say this because fighter can switch to a shield and still do a good dmg while other weapons doesn't have this 'tank version'. And now tell me why axes aren't the best weapons in this game? See, I'm not complaining "meehhhh axe-users are HAXXXXX NERF it!", I'm just saying that YES, they are that strong. EDIT: oh well I lost my original post because of forum logout, and ended up forgetting to say about this: Yes Axes are supposed to have huge damage, but they were ALSO supposed to be 7 SPD. Don't say "they've nerfed swift axe" because in this sv we have limited skill points so not everybody uses it. Besides, we are talking about wheter axe is the strongest weapon or not, classes excluded. But in the end, this make fighters the best pvp out there. +65535 axe = imba Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aznboi1211 0 Report post Posted July 23, 2010 yeap.. perfect explaination by RYE and another thing Bows dmg is extremely low even tho it is a 2 handed wep. for example atas 1 hand dmg is close to being same as archer even tho ATAs get to use a shield / armor. this is really unfair to archers. archer just strait up suck right now for me strongest PVP = 1- Fighter 2- Pike 3- Knight 4- Ata 5- Mech 6- Archer 7- Mage 8- Prs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.HvT 0 Report post Posted July 23, 2010 I do not know why you think ATK Pow really showed much higher ata. as I think speeds faster ata Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aydinerkan 1 Report post Posted July 23, 2010 all bows should increase 10~15% on attack power. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zenet0 0 Report post Posted July 23, 2010 Sa have been nerfed from 15% to 8, Berserker before at lvl 5 was -10 abs now on lvl 5 its -30 abs, so in others words berserker is useless now due to the fact ur abs drop like shit so no one use it anymore by anytime, cant use for hunt, cant use for pvp, cant use for exp. I lose +60 min dmg and +60 max dmg and its ALOT, so before u talking shit, move ur lazy ass or better saying move ur lazy fingers and use SEARCH, noob. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aznboi1211 0 Report post Posted July 23, 2010 10-15% power might not be enough too lol. had 10% dmg from bc and still doesnt make much of a diff. still can only kill low lvls. cant kill people that is around the same lvl that uses a shield Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aznboi1211 0 Report post Posted July 23, 2010 wooot archers getting dmg boost =D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
December 0 Report post Posted July 23, 2010 wooot archers getting dmg boost =D archers will still suck even though they will have damage boost they can die easy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aznboi1211 0 Report post Posted July 23, 2010 yea true but its a start Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sounds 0 Report post Posted July 23, 2010 archers will still suck even though they will have damage boost they can die easy ata too. cause too many noobs in rpt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
December 0 Report post Posted July 23, 2010 archers will still suck even though they will have damage boost they can die easy ata too. cause too many noobs in rpt. have you played an ata before? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Viking Report post Posted July 23, 2010 All stats of 108 weapons excluding staff. Now to business... Axes: 1- Have the highest MIN POW by FAR. ... what about MAX POW? 2- With its MIN POW they outstand MAX POW of: claw, bow, javelin. The criteria of being 1h or not doesn't apply here, as we are analyzing raw power. Notice bow freaking LOW ATP =/ ... still, axe isn't the strongest because of that 3- Axes have their 1-hand versions, so if we say "let's all do a 1-hand battle", the current: hammer, pike, bow would be WEAK as hell. Scythes: pikes weapon, pikes don't use 1h / Bows: archers weapon, they also don't use 1h / Hammer: the only thing that use that is mech, and they use claws too No "weapon" fight, so this theory worth nothing 4- Only hammer and pike can compare to axe in dmg, but as stated above in a 1on1 battle they lose miserably. I say this because fighter can switch to a shield and still do a good dmg while other weapons doesn't have this 'tank version'. Hammers have more critical, and they're mech weapons. If a fighter switch to 1h axe a mech switch to claw, np Scythes are on pikes hands, huge critical + critical mastery... a pike switch to shield and wait to CS you... And now tell me why axes aren't the best weapons in this game? See, I'm not complaining "meehhhh axe-users are HAXXXXX NERF it!", I'm just saying that YES, they are that strong. EDIT: oh well I lost my original post because of forum logout, and ended up forgetting to say about this: Yes Axes are supposed to have huge damage, but they were ALSO supposed to be 7 SPD. Don't say "they've nerfed swift axe" because in this sv we have limited skill points so not everybody uses it. Besides, we are talking about wheter axe is the strongest weapon or not, classes excluded. But in the end, this make fighters the best pvp out there. Axes are NOT that strong, it's all about fighters. As it's supposed to be they deal with huge damage They're not the strongest weapon, that's it And LOL if you're a fighter and you don't use Swift Axe you should really re-think your build Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shining 0 Report post Posted July 23, 2010 archers will still suck even though they will have damage boost they can die easy ata too. cause too many noobs in rpt. have you played an ata before? have you played an archer before? are you sure you are not a noob in arhcer? ??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Viking Report post Posted July 23, 2010 archers will still suck even though they will have damage boost they can die easy ata too. cause too many noobs in rpt. have you played an ata before? have you played an archer before? are you sure you are not a noob in arhcer? ??? ... archers tank nothing, will still tanking nothing That's the point Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elistor 0 Report post Posted July 23, 2010 why an archer should tank ? i played archer since the start of PT ... i never tanked any shit and i don't expect too.. if you want to tank , make a mech Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
December 0 Report post Posted July 23, 2010 i had an archer on another server i didn't like the class at all archers isn't that GOOD they suck of course am i noob at playing archer? i don't care archers are crap thats my opinon ;D that is why i don't have an archer on rpt but atas pwns archers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Viking Report post Posted July 23, 2010 why an archer should tank ? i played archer since the start of PT ... i never tanked any shit and i don't expect too.. if you want to tank , make a mech No one asking archers to tank >__> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites