zenet0 0 Report post Posted July 23, 2010 I tought it would be increased instead of descreased cause CL is already too weak :< Maybe a mistake? Comments please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mojo 0 Report post Posted July 23, 2010 Its not a mistake unfortunatly... It was actually announced about quite long ago, as part of the skill balance. I personally think that its not CL that is weak. Its the mobs who got more hp. I could be wrong though |: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yosi1234 0 Report post Posted July 23, 2010 why go all this trouble for balancing chars and shit should have just reduce mobs hp and thats it O_o Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b1nb1n2010 0 Report post Posted July 23, 2010 CL will SLIGHTLY get decreased in dmg due to an increasing in Vigor Ball. Let's hope that VB will now be as strong as Chain Lancer or Grand Cross hahhahaa Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fernando♪ 0 Report post Posted July 23, 2010 It's is sucks... Pris char PvP? Vigor ball? PvP? ' CL Decreased? IT'S IS SUCKS! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seph182 0 Report post Posted July 23, 2010 It's is sucks... Pris char PvP? Vigor ball? PvP? ' CL Decreased? IT'S IS SUCKS! x1 skills are good to hunt too But pris pvp really sucks, as it should be a support char only.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yosi1234 0 Report post Posted July 23, 2010 It's is sucks... Pris char PvP? Vigor ball? PvP? ' CL Decreased? IT'S IS SUCKS! x1 skills are good to hunt too But pris pvp really sucks, as it should be a support char only.. what about fs? what skills did he get balanced and how much x? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lummel 0 Report post Posted July 23, 2010 I think vigor ball will still be weak in pvp, even with x2,5 dmg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-Vodka- 688 Report post Posted July 23, 2010 atalanta! Decreased Damage Boost on Vengeance slightly - Vengeance attack speed is now Attack Speed - 2 lol ? when Sandur will stop running down the spells of Atalantas -.- '? , Soon atalanta will not be more helpful! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
December 0 Report post Posted July 23, 2010 atalanta! Decreased Damage Boost on Vengeance slightly - Vengeance attack speed is now Attack Speed - 2 lol ? when Sandur will stop running down the spells of Atalantas -.- '? , Soon atalanta will not be more helpful! the 2 tier 5 skill will add move speed and attack speed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Viking Report post Posted July 23, 2010 ... CL still good, I bet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elistor 0 Report post Posted July 23, 2010 stop fucking complain bitches , you don't even play PRS most of time ... you using it to VL urs chars at BC and in hunt maps ... VL isn't touched by the maint so wtf... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mayreen Report post Posted July 23, 2010 Lol guys, wait for server bk to talk I'll wait for server online, i'll use my prs, and then I'll talk about it^^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fernando♪ 0 Report post Posted July 23, 2010 stop fruiting complain bitches , you don't even play PRS most of time ... you using it to VL urs chars at BC and in hunt maps ... VL isn't touched by the maint so wtf... WTF? I have priestess 120. I might as well complain, fuck you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fernando♪ 0 Report post Posted July 23, 2010 atalanta! Decreased Damage Boost on Vengeance slightly - Vengeance attack speed is now Attack Speed - 2 lol ? when Sandur will stop running down the spells of Atalantas -.- '? , Soon atalanta will not be more helpful! the 2 tier 5 skill will add move speed and attack speed I know the tier 5 does not exist for the players. And do not even have the same prediction. Logic has no worse a character so radically, it was enough to lessen the damage of magic or decrease in speed -1 ps: sorry for my english ;D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaoscauser 0 Report post Posted July 23, 2010 He is probably dropping the tier 4 down to prepare for tier 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-Vodka- 688 Report post Posted July 23, 2010 plus up to leave T5 atalanta will not pay then ¬ ¬ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RandAlthor 0 Report post Posted July 23, 2010 stop fruiting complain bitches , you don't even play PRS most of time ... you using it to VL urs chars at BC and in hunt maps ... VL isn't touched by the maint so wtf... So Prs should only be used as a vl slave and no other reason? : Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sheepco 51 Report post Posted July 24, 2010 Actually yes, prs IS a support char so its only logic that prs only can be used for vl and healing in bc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xinxilaum 0 Report post Posted July 24, 2010 Actually yes, prs IS a support char so its only logic that prs only can be used for vl and healing in bc comon....what 'balance classes' means to you? keep the limitations of each classes (or just for prs you mean...? Oo) isnt a balancing....' can you see? this guy represents most of you when the subject is balance all the classes...you just want more of the same. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sheepco 51 Report post Posted July 24, 2010 Well when pt was first made, every char had their ups and downs. Where is the fun if every char is the same? Then it wouldn't make a difference if you chose one or another. There is a reason why prs is insane pvm killers and fs isn't. Same as to fs is insane pvp'er and prs isn't. As I said every char has their ups and downs, you just have to chose which one you think is better overall. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xinxilaum 0 Report post Posted July 24, 2010 Well when pt was first made, every char had their ups and downs. Where is the fun if every char is the same? Then it wouldn't make a difference if you chose one or another. There is a reason why prs is insane pvm killers and fs isn't. Same as to fs is insane pvp'er and prs isn't. As I said every char has their ups and downs, you just have to chose which one you think is better overall. where in hell prs is 'insane pvm killer'? Do you play here in relmpt? bcz prs WAS an insane pvm killer, and actually is, in the early game only. when pt was first made every char was able to do anything, ofc some had more usefull skills for something but the difference wasnt big like nowdays bcz there isnt pvp, sod and lvl cap isnt very high, you just played to leveling and hunt and every class did it. everything evolves in time, but priston tale does not bcz their developers didnt had a plan for the future and a lot of things are outdated, such as prs, mgs, pvp and quests. That s why a lot of ppl plays in private sv, for the features and events here and the liberty of the owner, and our developer Wartale is great on his job and made/make a lot of changes trying a good/fair/balance game for everyone. Let me ask you something: whats the meaning to lvl up a char who doesnt follow others classes when we talk about 'progress'? if you dont know what i m talking about, search for some info about PRSs formulas (both status and skill) and limitations duo to the reason why ppl are playing mmorpg (let tell you: to lvl up and be STRONGER each lvl we reach) and you will understand....... if you (and all the server) are telling that prs is a supporter, very well IF PRS EARN SOME BOOST IN THE SUPPORT SKILLS AS IT EVOLVES which [shadow=red,left]doesnt[/shadow] happens..... cant you get it? PRS (and MGS) is leveling just to change equips and get more hp OR a ridiculous aoe dmg while other classes earns a lot more bcz their formulas are 'a way' better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sheepco 51 Report post Posted July 24, 2010 So how does a fs "evolve" with each level? It wont be able to be better at killing mobs faster (aoe). My very first char ever was a prs in ept, and I loved it. Couldn't pvp for shit, but I didn't matter, cause I had loads of fun playing it I have never played a fs before, and thats because, imo, its only a pvp machine. Also I dont play prs anymore cause it doesnt have any pvp potential. What I most oftenly play is archer, because archer I strong pvp'er and strong against monsters.. What I mean by all of this is, you cant always expect to have the best of both worlds. If you like prs, stick with it, om the terms on how it was made. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xinxilaum 0 Report post Posted July 24, 2010 So how does a fs "evolve" with each level? It wont be able to be better at killing mobs faster (aoe). My very first char ever was a prs in ept, and I loved it. Couldn't pvp for shit, but I didn't matter, cause I had loads of fun playing it I have never played a fs before, and thats because, imo, its only a pvp machine. Also I dont play prs anymore cause it doesnt have any pvp potential. What I most oftenly play is archer, because archer I strong pvp'er and strong against monsters.. What I mean by all of this is, you cant always expect to have the best of both worlds. If you like prs, stick with it, om the terms on how it was made. i got your point, but the problem is: each lvl for fs means +atk pow, abs and hp (add str) and this atk pow will be base to calc(%) the dmg of their skills (- cyclone), and it s the same thing for every meele; for ranger means +atk pow def and AR (add agl) and the atk pow will be base to calc(%) the dmg of their skills (-that one from ata that atks with shield)....magical chars doesnt have this benefit bcz the formula (here or any sv even official) isnt made to evolve as char evolves, and the support skill is the same thing, it doesnt evolves as char evolves. So skill dmg (lil boost with weapon/int only, none from any%) and support skills will be the same when mastered....why should a prs/mgs leveling? thats my point: you have to increase yours skills, support or atk, if you lvl up otherwise what the point to do that with magical chars??? Also i m not telling you that prs/mgs should be the best PvPer or the best hunter, never said that........i m saying that prs/mgs MUST have, at least, an OK skill to hunt and be at PvP to annoy (sometimes killing low hp chars if they not pay attention) the enemy. You like to compare things, ok then, let me show you this: what is the dmg of cyclone at lvl 10 here? avg of 520 dmg plus the target get+70% dmg? i think it s a lot of dmg. The best AoE of prs is CL and, with a good staff (very good) and a lot of wp will deal something like 600-1100 to 9 mob.....is it 'insane' masskiller? i dont think so....one more thing: the best 1x1 skill of FS is destroyer which deal 150% dmg +30% crit (3 hits) based on FS atk (with a good axe and force will be something like 950-1100 or too much more) and remember critical dmg means 70%+ dmg......can you calc it to me? It s a lot of dmg 'IMO'....and the best 1x1 of prs is MultiSpark hiting 4~7 times based on your staff, which means something like 800~1400 per cast plus w/o critical......... Cyclone have half dmg of Chain Lightning but Destroyer can deal something like 10x the dmg of MultiSpark (remembering that monster have ABS and it means that every single cast of MS will be reduced by ABS which means: imagine something like 200x7 by MS, but mob have 100 abs>>> WOW, half of the dmg will be reduce, NICE HUHHHH.......) hmmmm do i have to explain more to you understand what i mean when i say 'outdated'? do you get my point? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Exelicer 0 Report post Posted July 25, 2010 Wow xinxilaum ur taking my place to keep complaining about prs/caster balancing I dont know what changed in the past. I played once for about 60mins 6 weeks ago and it was like couple months ago when I stopped. Some skills r %-based (CL/DL/VB) but its usually less than for other classes (WP/4 or something). But prs wasnt weak when I stopped playing. Ya that buffs r for every level / build the same is really crap. I asked for VL with something like 20% + WP/100 or let it lasts longer with high WP like 60sec + WP/2. Cos nothing to do at pvp than vl so u can do a pure hp build and ppl saying prs is to strong, hard to kill for an supporter class bla... Btw monster abs is %-based. 1k ms dmg and 100abs = 0dmg, 99abs = 10dmg, ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites