Chain Light decresead even more?

[xinxilaum 0]

Wow xinxilaum ur taking my place to keep complaining about prs/caster balancing

 

I dont know what changed in the past. I played once for about 60mins 6 weeks ago and it was like couple months ago when I stopped.

Some skills r %-based (CL/DL/VB) but its usually less than for other classes (WP/4 or something). But prs wasnt weak when I stopped playing.

 

Ya that buffs r for every level / build the same is really crap.

I asked for VL with something like 20% + WP/100 or let it lasts longer with high WP like 60sec + WP/2.

Cos nothing to do at pvp than vl so u can do a pure hp build and ppl saying prs is to strong, hard to kill for an supporter class bla...

 

Btw monster abs is %-based. 1k ms dmg and 100abs = 0dmg, 99abs = 10dmg, ...

 

maieUHIAMauhia

 

that s it, eXe, i ve bn complaining about prs/mgs since it s outdated even here in realm

 

yeah, prs wasnt weak when you played bcz every map was exp and all resistence was reduced to zero...now the things are different and like we agreed skills progress is just a lil (for support is none) so theres no meaning to lvl up your prs once you ll get just hp or a ridiculous +dmg.

 

tnx for the abs info, it worths a lot for me (unfourtunally sandurr doesnt show what the %abs of monsters, so it s a wast info for us =/)!!......But for our character it isnt like this, right? Any 110+ have 100+ abs and take a lot of dmg, so what is the real formula for characters? do you know?

 

 

[Exelicer 0]

Is abs working in BC? Some years ago it wasnt working. But ofc it cant be %-based then.

Hm something like: dmg x 0.2 - abs or (dmg - abs) x 0.2 ?

 

Oh monster resistence isn't 0 anymore?

I was so happy when I made him to check monster resis and it was removed. Was such a great boost and fair because other classes have lots of attacks w/o element while casters have only elemental attacks.

And its same as abs, its %-based.

So if a monster has 50% light res and 50abs and ur doing 1k dmg with CL:

1000 x 0.5 = 500 x 0.5 = 250dmg

 

Ya, guess my monsterfiles r very outdated^^

[xinxilaum 0]

Is abs working in BC? Some years ago it wasnt working. But ofc it cant be %-based then.

Hm something like: dmg x 0.2 - abs or (dmg - abs) x 0.2 ?

 

Oh monster resistence isn't 0 anymore?

I was so happy when I made him to check monster resis and it was removed. Was such a great boost and fair because other classes have lots of attacks w/o element while casters have only elemental attacks.

And its same as abs, its %-based.

So if a monster has 50% light res and 50abs and ur doing 1k dmg with CL:

1000 x 0.5 = 500 x 0.5 = 250dmg

 

Ya, guess my monsterfiles r very outdated^^

 

i m outdated abt monsterfiles too bcz i dont play here anymore and there s no annoucement abt it, but i know something: mob from hunt maps have resistence like any boss, old exp maps not. The new maps (like MD and AD) i dont know.

 

abt abs in BC, i rly dont know and it s hard to calc since priston tale doesnt show you how much you inflicted...=/

[zenet0 0]

I think prs should get the power of Cl back to lvling and get a huge bost on VB not only 2.5 cause its crap, it should be 5x more at least to test, maybe later increase or decrease it to get fair balanced.

 

Dunno about mgs cause i dont play it for more than 4 years.

[xinxilaum 0]

I think prs should get the power of Cl back to lvling and get a huge bost on VB not only 2.5 cause its crap, it should be 5x more at least to test, maybe later increase or decrease it to get fair balanced.

 

Dunno about mgs cause i dont play it for more than 4 years.

 

it s what i m talking about x]

 

i think 2.5x just wont solve the problem....

[Zinn~ 0]

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CL still good, I bet

[b1nb1n2010 0]

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CL still good, I bet

its so damned weak now. Dont jusy post if u dont really play Prs a lot

 

[zenet0 0]

So Wartale changed his mind about atas but not for prs? Why?

[Photon 0]

Chain Lightning just got alot stronger in AD1 so should give it a try

[b1nb1n2010 0]

Chain Lightning just got alot stronger in AD1 so should give it a try

What do u mean by that? So, CL only gets stronger in AD1 , not all maps ? What if I exp up in ft1,2 or md1,2,3 ?

[December 0]

Chain Lightning just got alot stronger in AD1 so should give it a try

What do u mean by that? So, CL only gets stronger in AD1 , not all maps ? What if I exp up in ft1,2 or md1,2,3 ?

 

ONLY in ad1.

[b1nb1n2010 0]

pls increase CL damage again, its way too weak now

[zenet0 0]

pls increase CL damage again, its way too weak now

 

prs was nice just to lvl up and go sod, now its totaly useless except for vl.. decreasing CL just doesnt make sense. Prs are now dead.

[Electron 0]

I agree it's a bit too low after I've tried it myself.

 

it will be increased again

[zenet0 0]

I agree it's a bit too low after I've tried it myself.

 

it will be increased again

 

back cl to the first skill balance sandy, cause CL was decreased twice.. *please*

[Mercury 0]

It was decreased for a reason before so I doubt it will be back to that zenet0.

The thing is that PRS is getting to good in areas where it is not supposed to be.

A PRS that is good at AOE outlvls e.g a mage and then we have to make mages

better and then we have to make another char better. That doesn't really make

any sense.

Sometimes a decrease is made for the benefit of many.

 

If you compare Mage and Prs (The 2 magical chars of PT) you will see that ATM

Mages are better masskillers.

Prs are better hunters.

It exists a "balance" between the classes.

@ the first SB, as you mentioned it was like this.

Mages are good at masskilling

Prs is better at masskilling

Prs is better at hunting.

 

Now that will render mages useless and no one will play them.

The idea of a balance is to increase some attributes WHILE decreasing something else.

Thats why its called a balance

 

So, finally.

Maybe Prs has gotten a little to weak in mass killing since the last SB and then I

agree to make them stronger. However I dont think that they should pass mages in

AOE capability again.

[xinxilaum 0]

@Mercury

You re clear to make your point but i think that mage are not this freaking Masskiller to justify the lack of a decent 1x1 skill. Same thing for prs. Magical characters must have, at least, one 1x1 decent skill with a different build. I mean you are trying to justify the poor 1x1 skills of magical chars with good AoE but i cant see any overpower skill 10 times stronger to justify 1x1 skill 10 times weaker. It is ridiculous and make no sense. You know that your Atalanta have AoE skills stronger than AoE skill of prs and mgs? So why are you talking this obsolete argue? Just to agree with Wartale? Sorry but if you will justify something at least do it fairness.

 

@topic

I was wondering if VB is that good to make CL too weak

[Mercury 0]

Woow chill out man.

 

1. I compared Prs masskilling to Mages masskilling. Not magical chars to other chars. That is a different discussion.

 

2. I did not talk about 1x1 skills as that is a different matter all together (Off topic).

 

3. My ata? And who might that be? My only chars inwtis GM-chars. If you are referring to my brother than thats a different discussion and you have went off the topic.

 

My point is that a Prs should never be a better mass killer than a Mage because that will defeat its purpose.

 

You are talking about fairness aswell. Then I will ask you, where is the fairness in accusing me of saying stuff that I never did? And where is the fairness in boosting Prs so much that it will cripple other chars?

 

I do suggest you to read my first reply again so that you dont have to make stuff up to argue with me.

[xinxilaum 0]

Woow chill out man.

 

1. I compared Prs masskilling to Mages masskilling. Not magical chars to other chars. That is a different discussion.

 

2. I did not talk about 1x1 skills as that is a different matter all together (Off topic).

 

3. My ata? And who might that be? My only chars inwtis GM-chars. If you are referring to my brother than thats a different discussion and you have went off the topic.

 

My point is that a Prs should never be a better mass killer than a Mage because that will defeat its purpose.

 

You are talking about fairness aswell. Then I will ask you, where is the fairness in accusing me of saying stuff that I never did? And where is the fairness in boosting Prs so much that it will cripple other chars?

 

I do suggest you to read my first reply again so that you dont have to make stuff up to argue with me.

 

ok, i overreacted bcz i was answering another discussion in another topic and brought here. My bad.

 

1- you re right, that s why i got pissed up but it s off topic.

 

2- i overreacted bcz the first sentence which seems you agree with the fact that PRS get the worse 1x1 skill (after death ray) AND AoE skill....and this is something that rly make no sense bcz VB or MS isnt a decent skill to hunt at all (compared with any ranger/meele), but it s off topic too.

 

3- yes, i thought you had an ATA, not your brother...my mistake, but it doesnt change the fact that xt rage or even storm javelin (or tornado, perforation or brandsh) for high lvl is stronger than MGS/PRS AoE skills, also not justify the weakness about 1x1 in proportion that I said before...but i think it s off topic too huh.

 

Anyway, i m sorry for my mistake, but take into consideration what I said bcz it s true.

[xiayinlan 0]

So, finally.

Maybe Prs has gotten a little to weak in mass killing since the last SB and then I

agree to make them stronger. However I dont think that they should pass mages in

AOE capability again.

i'm just confusing about the word "again"

[Mercury 0]

I put that there because there was a time inwtwhen no one played Mage and Prs was the best expers on the server

[xiayinlan 0]

I put that there because there was a time inwtwhen no one played Mage and Prs was the best expers on the server

Well, pri and mage are indeed the best begining expers in all PT severs all over the world

And anyone plays PT long know that they are the most useless chars when lvl high

 

About the masskill(without t5)...

When i was in ft2 lvling to 11x, pri is less helpful than mage except doing vl, and that was before the SB done to mage and pri

So Mercury, now u can get the point why i feel confused about "again"?

[b1nb1n2010 0]

At least there are still a few mages existing on this sv because they are still useful in SOD. About PRS ? After this balance which made CL weaker, all PRS are gone or inactive or become VL tools Btw, PRS never passed mage on AOE masskilling compared CL and Dias ( as Mercury said prs used to be stronger than mage) Anyway, PRS and MAGES still suck more and more once they get higher lvls compared to other chars.

[Gogg 3]

When I started playing here like 40% of the server was prs, and hm... maybe 6-7 of the top 10 were prs too, they were too easy to train, A LOT easier than mage

 

So, yea, prs was better than mage on mass killing (including SoD)

 

As that happened once, if that happen once more it will be happening AGAIN

[JoeHandsome 1]

I personally think that prs has great advantages in the high lvl maps, just make use of the skill extinction