Knights are sad to play.

[DarkLink64 921]

Hi, fellow RPT players!

 

 

As some (or nobody) may know, i'm a Knight player since ever. I do enjoy beying Knight on every game out there, regardless of what they do, or how strong they are.  The same applies on Priston in general, I play Knight since 2006.

 

But, I have to share my personal thoughts on this beloved class, about how Knights are performing here on Realm PT. When I came to play RPT, back in 2010 I guess, it was a friend of mine who invited me, saying that Knights had their defense working, that he was balanced so he can put a fight with Pikes and Fighters, and so on. Being sick of how Pikes rules everything on Official servers and how Knights are weak and bugged, then I bit the bait. You guys may think that i'm contradicting myself when I said that I enjoy playing Knights regardless of their performance and strenght, but in this case, I was just tired of being spectator of Pike dominance in Priston.

 

Thats why i "bit the bait", when my friend told me about Realm PT bug fixes and balances to Knight.

 

 

Now, enough of bla bla bla. Back in the day, Knights was a really good class, RPT made Knight to shine on what he is believed to perform: All around character.

 

Knights was good at PvP, had a decent tanking capabilities, were good to hunt, and somewhat good AoE.

 

For some reasons, I had to stop playing RPT. Then, after a year or two, I went back to the game in march of this year. And, now I feel I've already had enough "information" and "data" to write this own thread, about how sad is to play Knight at the moment.

 

 

First of all, i'm aware that Fighters are in somewhat bad spot, but at least, Fighters have an insane attack damage output for PvP, way greater than Knight.

 

But let's get to the point:

 

 

Knights nowadays isn't living on what he was designed to do: All Around class, with focus on Undeads. They're just bad overall.

 

Let's face RPT current meta:

 

Exping

 

Current Exping metagame lies into Death Island Party quests. The quests that requires a Mechanician to Tank and aggro monsters with Compulsion, a Lurer to run around and lure monsters to the Tank Mechanician, and a team of four players that is responsible to just "kill" all the monsters, in AoE fashion.

 

With lots of "hunt" monsters attacking the Tank Mech, "killer" players should use Area of Effect skills to hit them all, since AoE skills doesn't miss and, the damage output over time is far greater than 1v1 each monster.

 

This is where Knight falls flat. He can't be the tank, since he can't tank enough neither pull monster aggro, and when you try to be a killer, you're just one of the worst killers in the game.

 

Heck, even a Priest is way superior than Knights, killing at Death Island Party Quest. Priests can wreck down almost half HP of every Undead Stalker with exctinction, and 1/4 of its HP on next cast. This massive Exctintion damage make up for Priestess random damage with Ice Meteorite.

 

 

But, why Knight is bad at Death Island, and bad at Area of Effect in general?

 

It's because of Brandish. The very old Brandish we know for more than a decade. Knights still needs to use Brandish. The problem of Brandish skill is it's design and execution. Brandish requires a target and it has NO cast range, so, the Knight player needs to be at melee range against a target.

 

Not only being a close range targeted skill, it's splash area is just in front of Knight, so, to hit every monsters, you need to lure them all at one place.

 

Look at Pikes, who is "supposed" to be a PvP / 1v1 class:

 

Pike, the one, if not the most broken class of Realm PT at the moment, have Tornado. Tornado Splash Area of Effect is circular, and Pike being the center of it's splash damage. Also, the AoE range determines it's Cast Range, so, the higher the skill level, the higher the AoE range, and the far you can be while targeting a monster. With Shuriken Bonus, it literally doubles Tornado splash range, allowing Pikes to literally sit back and just Shift Click.

 

Pikes are so strong at Exping. Because it's long cast range, it's very uncommon  to a monster come to attack him, since he's very far from monsters lured to Mechanicians. This allows Pikes to even wear Summer Suits and attack even faster, increasing it's damage output.

 

Meanwhile Knights needs to be in the same spot where is the Mechanician Tanking, much more open to many attacks from monsters, and Brandish can't hit all monsters since it's Splash area is in front of him, not around. To kill as a Knight, you rely on how smart is the Lurer and the Tank mech, because the lurer should be carefull to not lure against Knight, and the Mech needs to be constant moving around to gather all monster in the same spot, to allow Brandish hit all monsters.

 

 

Priestess, Archers and Atalantas can be much more safer because of their long cast range, Mages can also just right click without target behind the tanker, and Fighter, who is also very bad at Exping, is BETTER than Knight. Fighter Ciclone have low cast range, but it's splash range is circular around him and huge. Ciclone AoE range is almost the same as Mage Stone Spike!

 

 

It's very disappointing to level up just by luring, the most boring role in the quest, and what's make me even more sad is how USELESS Lightning Sword is.

 

Wartale, sorry for my harsh words, but i have to be sincere. Why did you spent your precious time, coding a brand new Active Tier 5 skill that is just useless?

 

You know that it's useless when it's still inferior in comparison to Brandish, and Brandish being inferior to almost everyone else AoE skills.

 

Lightning Sword has so much potential to make Knight safer and better to AoE Exp, but it's way outclassed by Brandish. Yes, it have all the design choices a good AoE skill needs:

 

Circular splash area around the player, and medium cast range.

 

I've already did a very long analysis and suggestion regarding Lightning Sword here: http://thronum.com/forum/index.php?topic=141958.msg782639#msg782639

 

But, what can be made on Lightning Sword?

 

First, fix a bug that makes Lightning Sword damage being static and based of 1 Handed weapons, regardless of current weapon, buffs and forces. I know Wartale is aware of this, since i've already did a bug report.

 

Second, makes it's interval time WAY shorter, so a Full lightning spin is faster than 2 brandish executions.

 

Change it's execution: Reduce initial Stamina and Mana Cost, and drain Stamina while holding the skill button. Lightning Sword will keep active untill you hold off the skill button, or when you run out of stamina. This idea is to make use of another useless Knight skill: His Tier 1 passive skill that increases Stamina. With this new execution, Knights could level up this passive to make Lightning Sword last way longer.

 

 

 

 

See? There is lot of potential in Lightning Sword... But lets move my frustration on other aspect of RPT Meta.

 

 

Hunting

 

Ah, the good old times of Ice Mine. The old times when people would beg for Knights on their parties, to buff them with Holy Valor.

 

But now, Knights is outclassed by everyone except Priests, but when hunting undeads (his strongest aspect), Priestess is way better because of Extinction.

 

Auto Mechs, Archers and Atalantas is so much better at hunting. They barely misses a hit, they can attack by a safe and long range, they have pets to tank for them, and they can wear Summer Suits that increases the already fast Attack Speed.

 

Onto melee class, Knight damage output is the lowest. Back in the day, this was compensated by the fact that Grand Cross, his main skill, had 80% attack rating boost.

 

But not anymore, since everyone else have Attack Rating boosts.

 

Pikes with higher critical ratio, 70% x3 Chain Lance with ridiculous Attack Rating bonus from his passive T5 skill, makes Grand Cross looks really sad and pathetic. What makes even more sad is the fact that Pike's Shadow Master have Attack Rating boost, and Knight Devine Piercing, have none. Our most powerfull skill, misses almost all of 7 hits. It put Knights in a really danger state, because the cast animation is long, and it doesn't reward, because it fails to hit.

 

Fighters base Attack Power is way higher than Knight, so does his skills, like Avenging Crash with 95%. Fighters also gains Attack Rating, although not as high as Grand Cross, but he can attack way faster with Swift Axe, making up for one or two hits that misses, making his damage output higher than Knight.

 

Well, I guess Knight is on par with Mages at Hunting... And mages has godlike AoE skill, while Knights...

 

SOD

 

Sod is mainly an AoE aspect of the game, so, there is no much to say about it. We already know how Knight sucks at AoE, so does his sucks at SoD. At later stages, where 1v1 is required, the same things that were said on Hunting metagame, where Knight still underperform...

 

There is nothing to say about SoD, common sense plays here and we know how Mages and Priestess dominates SoD, and Knight being only better than Mech out of melee classes. And mech is only bad at Aoe because Spark doesn't have it's damage based on % of his Attack Damage. Despite Spark poor formula, it's a good AoE skill, long cast range, and circular splash area around it's targed.

 

 

PvP

 

The good old PvP.

 

There is no question here. Pikes and Atalantas breaks everything you throw at them called "balance" and "fairness". The ranking doesnt lie. What makes me sad is the fact that both Pikes and Atalantas are also great while Exping and Hunting. Archer is also top tier in PvP.

 

Knight's damage on PvP is one of the lowest, if you discard Priestess. This was backed up by a good tanking by Godly Shield, but it doesn't seems to be good anymore. You can judge my skill, but i'm kind of veteran on this game. I do have a good donated armor, a good set of donated boss 1 acessories, and a good set of drop and donated boots gaunts and bracs. Still, i'm being ONE HIT KILLED by PIKES that is a 4 LEVEL LOWER THAN MINE!!!

 

Also, my friend that is a Fighter, wich is just one a level higher, is also One hit killing me with Dest, and 2 Avenging Crashes is enough.

 

I can't even stand 3 hits of a single Chain Lance of that lower leveled pike. Ata's Split Jav? No way to survive. I guess Split Javelin, Charged Strike and Jumping crash, nobody can survive.

 

 

Knight's damage is medium to low on PvP, it's unique advantage of high attack rating is no longe unique since everyone else has Attack Rating, he doesnt tank enough to survive strong skills, he doesn't offer any kind of support. His unique supportive skill is Lightning Sword, wich is useless, since it's stun is random, also it's negated because of Lightning Resistance, it's suicide to cast, because it's slow and long.

 

 

What Knight can do on PvP besides Grand Cross and Dying?

 

Priestess can support with Ice, VL, Divine Force, Mages can cast Distort, but what can a Knight do? The rankings also proves that i'm right, If Knight is a good class at PvP, we would see WAY MORE Knights on ranking. People love to play easy and strong class, if nobody is playing Knight, chances are that, yes, it's sad to play as Knight.

 

 

 

Thanks for reading. I'm eagear to help with tests and balancing.

 

 

So, where Knights can have fun, or at least, be usefull or strong?

 

At Undead Army or Lone Prince, in Hells Gate (HG). Yeah, we're good only at an event that happens each 5 hours and reward you most of time with soul cristals and purple skill stones. Oh, but if HG is The Colossi, the moment of glory ends.

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry to be harsh Wartale, but, my expectation towards Lightning Sword was really blown away. The skill is just useless. I can't understand why to put effort coding and developing a fresh new active T5 for Knight, then make it useless in almost every aspect.

 

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Pikes with higher critical ratio, 70% x3 Chain Lance with ridiculous Attack Rating bonus from not only one, but two T5 skills, makes Grand Cross looks really sad, and pathetic. What makes even more sad is the fact that Pike's Shadow Master have Attack Rating boost

only 1 t5 skill for pike add AR, "Attack Rating Mastery". SM does not have AR boost either. and, pike t5 AR boost only give 210% boost of WEAPONS AR. grand cross give +80% AR boost of your TOTAL AR. but yea knight = crap

 

the skills list for pike was not updated for shuriken bonus in a long time if thats where you got your info from, they no longer have AR boost on any level that skill.

 

 

 

[MADM1ND 0]

KS is the class i most like...

 

but here in rpt they are just useless, simply because everyone else can do what he does in a better way. anything knights does, someone does it better.

 

 

Imo it needs damage boost and higher on aoe skill, not specially brandish but maybe Sw of justive would be better for di.

[DarkLink64 921]

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Pikes with higher critical ratio, 70% x3 Chain Lance with ridiculous Attack Rating bonus from not only one, but two T5 skills, makes Grand Cross looks really sad, and pathetic. What makes even more sad is the fact that Pike's Shadow Master have Attack Rating boost

only 1 t5 skill for pike add AR, "Attack Rating Mastery". SM does not have AR boost either. and, pike t5 AR boost only give 210% boost of WEAPONS AR. grand cross give +80% AR boost of your TOTAL AR. but yea knight = crap

 

the skills list for pike was not updated for shuriken bonus in a long time if thats where you got your info from, they no longer have AR boost on any level that skill.

 

You're wrong, sir. Pike T5 passively increases his BASE Attack Rating. And the formula is easy: 210% out of your Scythe Attack Rating.

 

But, 210% of Weapon Attack Rating is WAY too much, do the math! 210% of a +22 perf 134 Scythe adds up to 810,6 of Attack Rating to ALL HIS ATTACKS, even the default attack!

 

It's the BASE Attack Rating that get boosted, so it's obvious that Shadow Master benefits from this.

 

A massive Attack Rating on every attack withs almost 100% critical ratio, Insane high damage from skills, Ice...

 

 

 

 

 

[MADM1ND 0]

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Pikes with higher critical ratio, 70% x3 Chain Lance with ridiculous Attack Rating bonus from not only one, but two T5 skills, makes Grand Cross looks really sad, and pathetic. What makes even more sad is the fact that Pike's Shadow Master have Attack Rating boost

only 1 t5 skill for pike add AR, "Attack Rating Mastery". SM does not have AR boost either. and, pike t5 AR boost only give 210% boost of WEAPONS AR. grand cross give +80% AR boost of your TOTAL AR. but yea knight = crap

 

the skills list for pike was not updated for shuriken bonus in a long time if thats where you got your info from, they no longer have AR boost on any level that skill.

 

You're wrong, sir. Pike T5 passively increases his BASE Attack Rating. And the formula is easy: 210% out of your Scythe Attack Rating.

 

But, 210% of Weapon Attack Rating is WAY too much, do the math! 210% of a +22 perf 134 Scythe adds up to 810,6 of Attack Rating to ALL HIS ATTACKS, even the default attack!

 

It's the BASE Attack Rating that get boosted, so it's obvious that Shadow Master benefits from this.

 

A massive Attack Rating on every attack withs almost 100% critical ratio, Insane high damage from skills, Ice...

 

i got 145 ps with 134 +22 dnt scytge

 

CS + SM = 10 hits almost 100% of times.

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Pikes with higher critical ratio, 70% x3 Chain Lance with ridiculous Attack Rating bonus from not only one, but two T5 skills, makes Grand Cross looks really sad, and pathetic. What makes even more sad is the fact that Pike's Shadow Master have Attack Rating boost

only 1 t5 skill for pike add AR, "Attack Rating Mastery". SM does not have AR boost either. and, pike t5 AR boost only give 210% boost of WEAPONS AR. grand cross give +80% AR boost of your TOTAL AR. but yea knight = crap

 

the skills list for pike was not updated for shuriken bonus in a long time if thats where you got your info from, they no longer have AR boost on any level that skill.

 

You're wrong, sir. Pike T5 passively increases his BASE Attack Rating. And the formula is easy: 210% out of your Scythe Attack Rating.

 

But, 210% of Weapon Attack Rating is WAY too much, do the math! 210% of a +22 perf 134 Scythe adds up to 810,6 of Attack Rating to ALL HIS ATTACKS, even the default attack!

 

It's the BASE Attack Rating that get boosted, so it's obvious that Shadow Master benefits from this.

 

A massive Attack Rating on every attack withs almost 100% critical ratio, Insane high damage from skills, Ice...

im wrong? how am i wrong? u just copied exactly what i said and reworded it....i said t5 skill give +210% boost of AR on weapon. yes its +810 and of course i assume you are always wearing a weapon so ofc its passive...you need to have a weapon equpied to get +210% AR of your WEAPON no?  : ofc it add to base dmg, but why you say only shadow master? wtf? if the t5 skill give passive boost its to all skills not only SM, when you talk like that you make it seem like the specific skill of SM ONLY gives the AR boost from the t5 skill when infact EVERY skill benefits from that, including default attack.

 

knight with 3200 AR when using grand cross gets AR boost of +2560(80%) for a total of 5760

[DarkLink64 921]

KS is the class i most like...

 

but here in rpt they are just useless, simply because everyone else can do what he does in a better way. anything knights does, someone does it better.

 

 

Imo it needs damage boost and higher on aoe skill, not specially brandish but maybe Sw of justive would be better for di.

 

This is the point of my thread, the only reason to play Knight is to love Knight, because like you said, what Knight can do, everyone does much better.

 

This is sad, I believe Wartale needs to make his T5 Lightning Sword be Knight main AoE, since it's useless, both Brandish and Sword of Justice is better, and it's stun have no purpose.

 

Wartale or 3R can ask any Knight player what he thinks about Lightning Sword... The answer would not differ from mine. It has potential, but currently, it's weaker and have no use anywhere in the game.

 

 

 

Officials PT changed Knight buffs skills that i've really enjoyed.

 

Holy Valor or Holy Body could be casted at same time with Drastic Spirit.

 

Holy Valor added damage against undead was reduced, but now it gives a really good Attack Power buff.

 

Drastic Spirit now adds a % your absorption.

 

 

And for godly sake, makes Divine Piercing usable. I've posted a suggestion on my Analysis thread that would make Holy Aura way more interesting and fun, everytime you charge Holy Aura, you gain a buff that adds Attack Rating to Knight Double Crash and Divine Piercing for a little time. The added Attack Rating would not work on Grand Cross.

 

This would make charging his T5 a lot more interesting, allowing a Double Crash / Devine Piercing to hit. Currently Holy Aura is just useless, except for the added damage after 20 hits. You barely survive to charge 20 hits in PvP, and in hunting, it cuts down half of his Undead Bane passive. That's why i've suggested to add a buff to his ATR, so he can use Divine Piercing after Charging.

 

 

 

[DarkLink64 921]

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Pikes with higher critical ratio, 70% x3 Chain Lance with ridiculous Attack Rating bonus from not only one, but two T5 skills, makes Grand Cross looks really sad, and pathetic. What makes even more sad is the fact that Pike's Shadow Master have Attack Rating boost

only 1 t5 skill for pike add AR, "Attack Rating Mastery". SM does not have AR boost either. and, pike t5 AR boost only give 210% boost of WEAPONS AR. grand cross give +80% AR boost of your TOTAL AR. but yea knight = crap

 

the skills list for pike was not updated for shuriken bonus in a long time if thats where you got your info from, they no longer have AR boost on any level that skill.

 

You're wrong, sir. Pike T5 passively increases his BASE Attack Rating. And the formula is easy: 210% out of your Scythe Attack Rating.

 

But, 210% of Weapon Attack Rating is WAY too much, do the math! 210% of a +22 perf 134 Scythe adds up to 810,6 of Attack Rating to ALL HIS ATTACKS, even the default attack!

 

It's the BASE Attack Rating that get boosted, so it's obvious that Shadow Master benefits from this.

 

A massive Attack Rating on every attack withs almost 100% critical ratio, Insane high damage from skills, Ice...

im wrong? how am i wrong? u just copied exactly what i said and reworded it....i said t5 skill give +210% boost of AR on weapon. yes its +810 and of course i assume you are always wearing a weapon so ofc its passive...you need to have a weapon equpied to get +210% AR of your WEAPON no?  : ofc it add to base dmg, but why you say only shadow master? wtf? if the t5 skill give passive boost its to all skills not only SM, when you talk like that you make it seem like the specific skill of SM ONLY gives the AR boost from the t5 skill when infact EVERY skill benefits from that, including default attack.

 

knight with 3200 AR when using grand cross gets AR boost of +2560(80%) for a total of 5760

 

The hell bro. Get out.

 

Pike T5 adds Attack Rating passively to your BASE Attack Rating. So its COMMON SENSE that it's works on EVERY attack.

 

 

Also, don't bulshit. No Knight can have have base 3200 ATR. It's impossible. Mine with +20 DNT SW and Brac BSM can't reach 1800. I'm with 1745 of ATR.

 

I believe that and average Knight with 134 donated gears would have 1800~1900 base Attack Rating.

 

80% of 1800 is 1440, not too much higher in comparison of passively 810 added attack rating of Pikes, that works on every skills. Knight 1440 added Attack Rating is only on Grand Cross, with is just 2 hit skill with 80%.

 

Pike 810 Added Attack Rating is on everything else, plus his almost 100% critical, plus his 70% on 3 hit Chain Lance, plus his 90% x 7 Shadow Master, plus his 120% of Charged Strike.

 

 

This thread is about Knight, stick to the topic. If the reality checks about how broken and superior Pikes are affects your ego, go bitch elsewwhere. This topic is about how playing Knight is sad, because he is inferior to everyone else on almost every aspect.

 

Also, don't come posting crap on my thread. I only talk with people who is capable of using their brain to do basic math, not fantasy things like Knight having base 3700 Attack Rating. Don't be ridiculous. You should be ashamed.

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Pike T5 adds Attack Rating passively to your BASE Attack Rating. So its COMMON SENSE that it's works on EVERY attack.

u are noob or something? i say this x2 already.

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i said t5 skill give +210% boost of AR on weapon. yes its +810 and of course i assume you are always wearing a weapon so ofc its passive...you need to have a weapon equpied to get +210% AR of your WEAPON no?  : ofc it add to base dmg, but why you say only shadow master? wtf? if the t5 skill give passive boost its to all skills not only SM, when you talk like that you make it seem like the specific skill of SM ONLY gives the AR boost from the t5 skill when infact EVERY skill benefits from that, including default attack.

 

if you wearing a weapon, you get +210% AR from it to your total AR. you need to be wearing a WEAPON to get that boost. no weapon = no boost. COMMON SENSE.

ex. my total AR = 3000. when i equip weapon 134+22 i get 3000+386+810(t5 skill) for total 4196 when using any attack

i was just pointing out incorrect information you posted, thats all. calm.

[DarkLink64 921]

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Pike T5 adds Attack Rating passively to your BASE Attack Rating. So its COMMON SENSE that it's works on EVERY attack.

u are noob or something? i say this x2 already.

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i said t5 skill give +210% boost of AR on weapon. yes its +810 and of course i assume you are always wearing a weapon so ofc its passive...you need to have a weapon equpied to get +210% AR of your WEAPON no?  : ofc it add to base dmg, but why you say only shadow master? wtf? if the t5 skill give passive boost its to all skills not only SM, when you talk like that you make it seem like the specific skill of SM ONLY gives the AR boost from the t5 skill when infact EVERY skill benefits from that, including default attack.

 

if you wearing a weapon, you get +210% AR from it to your total AR. you need to be wearing a WEAPON to get that boost. no weapon = no boost. COMMON SENSE.

ex. my total AR = 3000. when i equip weapon 134+22 i get 3000+386+810(t5 skill) for total 4196 when using any attack

i was just pointing out incorrect information you posted, thats all. calm.

 

Now your nickname makes sense, you must be really blind.

 

Who cares if youre not using Weapon? When would a Pike cast skills without Scythe? I didn't said anything incorrect, i've always said its 210% on WEAPON Attack Rating. Youre blind + dumb?

 

Or you're mentally challenged?

 

134+22 Scythe have 386 Attack Rating. Pike Passive adds 210% of Weapon Attack Rating. So, 210% of 386 = 810,6. This 810 Attack Rating bonus is added to your BASE Attack Rating. So, EVERY attack would benefit from this 810 bonus, including Shadow Master.

 

Simple math, or you can't even do it? If you have 1700 Attack Rating without this passive, when you level it to 10, you will have 2510 Attack Rating. And, guess what? This is the very same Attack rating that every attack uses, including Shadow Master, Charged Strike and etc.

 

You said that Shadow Master doesn't get Attack Rating.

 

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only 1 t5 skill for pike add AR, "Attack Rating Mastery". SM does not have AR boost either.

 

You're incorrect, you're completely wrong. You said that Knight have 3700 Attack Rating. You're incorrect. I pay to see a Knight with 2000 Attack Rating. Mine with +20 DNT SW and Brac have 1745.

 

 

Also, I won't reply you anymore. This topic is about Knight. Not about challenged people that bitchs because someone is talking about Pike, a class that just need to point and click to kill.

 

Farewell.

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you are a complete fool luiz, always have been always will be. go take another 2 year break and do us all a favor pls. back to 4th grade math kid.

[DarkLink64 921]

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you are a complete fool luiz, always have been always will be. go take another 2 year break and do us all a favor pls. back to 4th grade math kid.

 

Youre mad bro? Calling me fool?

 

Why you don't try to prove me wrong? Show some evidence. Too bad you're mentally challenged, so you can't show anything, hahaha!!

 

 

Yeah, i'm fool. I'm the fool who says that Knights have 3700 base Attack Rating, and Shadow Master doesn't benefit from T5 ATR passive. Yeah, i'm totally fool.

 

 

This is why you play Pike. A char that doesn't require any kind of skill, just click and it's done. Doesn't have to think, doesn't need strategy, simply just click and kill.

 

You know, it actually makes me happy to see people like you spending lots of money just to click and kill other people. You must have a very very sad life, a shitty ego, to come here and post crap defending a class that everyone already knows that is utterly broken and overpower.

 

Call me fool anywhere, anytime. But you can't prove me wrong, and that's what matters. And also, your lack of knowledge makes me happy <3

 

[SonsofAnarchy 0]

i must agree .. knight is the most useless char on rpt server

 

sad but true ..

 

i saw in furom some1 try sell 138 knight  naked for 4k coins 

 

and this value you can buy max 134 char naked

 

 

but ppl give up on ks ... sandur have to do something with that

 

and ya about ps  many talk about that  .. its just useless and not fun to play vs ps in bc

 

1 hit kill ( sm / cs / and sometimes still jc ) its just killing the fun of pvp 

 

best way its just nerf ps  and boots ks .. will bring more ppl to bc for sure

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Call me fool anywhere, anytime. But you can't prove me wrong, and that's what makes me happy <3

 

i cant believe how dumb you really are. lets break it down for retards (you mainly luiz)

 

Yeah, i'm fool. I'm the fool who says that Knights have 3700 base Attack Rating, and Shadow Master doesn't benefit from T5 ATR passive. Yeah, i'm totally fool.

i said sm dont benefit from t5 AR huh? maybe YOU should be the one being called BLIND.

 

i said t5 skill give +210% boost of AR on weapon. yes its +810 and of course i assume you are always wearing a weapon so ofc its passive...you need to have a weapon equpied to get +210% AR of your WEAPON no?  : ofc it add to base dmg, but why you say only shadow master? wtf? if the t5 skill give passive boost its to all skills not only SM

can you not read kid? i agree with you but you are a moron and cant read correctly, back to 1st grade thats when we start learning to read ok?

 

This is why you play Pike. A char that doesn't require any kind of skill, just click and it's done. Doesn't have to think, doesn't need strategy, simply just aim and click.

im pike player? since when? are you that stupid? gtfo retard you dont even have a clue what ur talking about

 

You know, it actually makes me happy, to see people spending lots of money just to click and kill other people. You must have a very very sad life, a shitty ego, to come here and post crap defending a class that everyone already knows that is utterly overpower.

hey u know what make me happy? kids like you CRYING for change in a GAME. i did not come here "defending" a class thats OP, its not my class and im +1 for nerf PS. again, u know nothing kid. i tried to tell you what you wrote about some stats of PS was incorrect (still you cant understand this) and u got your panties all bunched up and went on the defensive, not me dude.

 

Call me fool anywhere, anytime. But you can't prove me wrong, and that's what makes me happy <3

u are a fool, always been a fool, always will be a fool. im glad no1 can "prove you wrong" in a video game and that makes you happy, it shows how successful you really are in life. you are SOOOO proud that you wasted weeks and weeks of your "valuable life" time to gather some "game statistics" to go post a rant on how this should b changed or on how that should b changed, it shows alot about the type of person u are. i spend 0$ here and play for fun but when kids like u try and start a verbal war over miscommunication rather then read between the lines, u need to be put in ur place.

 

again do us a favor:

Also, I won't reply you anymore.

 

Farewell.

[DarkLink64 921]

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Ya nobody yes door.

 

i must agree .. knight is the most useless char on rpt server

 

sad but true ..

 

i saw in furom some1 try sell 138 knight  naked for 4k coins 

 

and this value you can buy max 134 char naked

 

 

but ppl give up on ks ... sandur have to do something with that

 

and ya about ps  many talk about that  .. its just useless and not fun to play vs ps in bc

 

1 hit kill ( sm / cs / and sometimes still jc ) its just killing the fun of pvp 

 

best way its just nerf ps  and boots ks .. will bring more ppl to bc for sure

 

Yeah, it's very sad... I love to play Knights, but i do also like fairness and competitiveness. There isn't competition when your character just sucks and there another character that one click and wipes everyone.

 

What is even more sad, both Pike and Atalanta are also the best to Exp and hunt, making them overpower in almost every aspect of the game!

 

 

I'm leveling up hard, hunting and making money to gear my Knight, but it is VERY frustrating to die in a fucking single hit to characters lower levels than mine, with gears that is worse than mine.

 

It's making me to lose interest in RPT, it's sad that I can't do anything but lure on Death Island, while everyone else sit backs and just shift click... It's really frustrating at hunting, while i'm killing a monster, someone else with same gears almost killed two monster at same time...

 

 

And the very unique thing that Knights are good, is HG, and everyone on it receive the same rewards that are worth almost nothing.

 

 

I would love to have acess to testing accounts and help balance, i can do it for free, I just can't stand imbalance and unfairness... But it all goes down to Wartale :T

 

 

At least I wish I could see Wartale answering why he spent so much time on Lightning Sword, to make it worse than Brandish.....

[SonsofAnarchy 0]

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Ya nobody yes door.

 

i must agree .. knight is the most useless char on rpt server

 

sad but true ..

 

i saw in furom some1 try sell 138 knight  naked for 4k coins 

 

and this value you can buy max 134 char naked

 

 

but ppl give up on ks ... sandur have to do something with that

 

and ya about ps  many talk about that  .. its just useless and not fun to play vs ps in bc

 

1 hit kill ( sm / cs / and sometimes still jc ) its just killing the fun of pvp 

 

best way its just nerf ps  and boots ks .. will bring more ppl to bc for sure

 

Yeah, it's very sad... I love to play Knights, but i do also like fairness and competitiveness. There isn't competition when your character just sucks and there another character that one click and wipes everyone.

 

What is even more sad, both Pike and Atalanta are also the best to Exp and hunt, making them overpower in almost every aspect of the game!

 

 

I'm leveling up hard, hunting and making money to gear my Knight, but it is VERY frustrating to die in a fruiting single hit to characters lower levels than mine, with gears that is worse than mine.

 

It's making me to lose interest in RPT, it's sad that I can't do anything but lure on Death Island, while everyone else sit backs and just shift click... It's really frustrating at hunting, while i'm killing a monster, someone else with same gears almost killed two monster at same time...

 

 

And the very unique thing that Knights are good, is HG, and everyone on it receive the same rewards that are worth almost nothing.

 

 

I would love to have acess to testing accounts and help balance, i can do it for free, I just can't stand imbalance and unfairness... But it all goes down to Wartale :T

 

 

At least I wish I could see Wartale answering why he spent so much time on Lightning Sword, to make it worse than Brandish.....

 

i agree 100% with you ..

right now the only way for knight to hunt goo its ice mine ..  witch max item is 128

 

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[Electron 0]

I agree knight is a little weak at the moment

 

I'll put out a big skill balance for knight based on your advice in the next patch

[MADM1ND 0]

I agree knight is a little weak at the moment

 

I'll put out a big skill balance for knight based on your advice in the next patch

 

B> ks 14x 15x pm me. LOL

 

thank's sandurr.

[CLA250 147]

I agree knight is a little weak at the moment

 

I'll put out a big skill balance for knight based on your advice in the next patch

 

 

the time has come,

 

Justice demands retribution!

[DarkLink64 921]

I agree knight is a little weak at the moment

 

I'll put out a big skill balance for knight based on your advice in the next patch

 

 

Oh thank goodness!!!

 

But, I would be glad if i can help you with testing and suggestions, Wartale, just let me know if you want help and how I can do it.

[[crass] 19]

changing class in the next patch  ;D

[junior0510 0]

yes sandurr is time fixer knigth good look knigth realmpt is back

[DarkLink64 921]

Haha, i'll confess, i'm really anxious to see what Wartale will make o/

 

Short duration Attack Rating buff (that doesn't work on Grand Cross) after Charging Holy aura would be a Dream coming true!