Attack Skills [Mech]

[rafters 0]

I see people talking about mech attack skills a lot, so i decided to create this topic to discuss about it, and help all of us prepare our mech the way we like to play.

 

I focus on comparing the skills in one scenario, 1 vs 1.

 

Let´s suppose a mech at level 110 (four maps for hunting and the desire to go to BC... )

 

Atk pow: 450-550 (500 for the calculations) (two-handed+dev force) (it's just a guess, but i think it is not far from reality)

Opponent´s abs: 120 (it's a guess too, but i think it is not far from reality on PvP)

 

Mechanic Bomb

Useless

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Spark

When we want to train, this is the best skill. It hits an unlimited number of enemies....GOGOGO...Train.... ...Just it!

Damage: 740-840 (790 for the calculations)

Result: 790-120=670

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Great Smash

This ability also adds attack rate (weapon), but  i think we don´t need, because i tested it on lost (Lost Island) and always hit. It´s very similar to the PS´s Jumping Crash, but they have Vanish, Assasin's Eye and more critical rate than us....

Damage: 2*500=1000

Result: 1000-120=880

Result(crit.): (1000*1,70)-120=1580(I don´t know if we can hit a critical damage using this skill.)

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Grand Smash

This ability also adds attack rate (200). I tested it on lost too, and missed a LOT. On PvP it´s cool... 8) .... and the skill animation is great, especially using scythes (in my opinion)....

Damage: 2*1,79*500=1790

Result (1 hit): (1790/2)-120=775

Result (2 hits): 1790-(2*120)=1550

Result(1hit, 1crit.): ((1790/2)*1,70)-120=1402(I think we can hit a critical damage using this skill.)

Result(2hit, 1crit.): ((1790/2)*1,70+(1790/2))-(2*120)=2177(I think we can hit a critical damage using this skill.)

Result(2hit, 2crit.): (1790*1,70)-(2*120)=2803(I think we can hit a critical damage using this skill.)

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Impulsion

We cannot use axes here. I read a topic to know how it works (http://www.realmpt.com/forum/index.php?topic=12176.0). I didn´t test if this skill always hit the enemy. If there is someone here who tested, please post. When we go hunting, usually face a maximum of two monsters, so these calculations are made only for the main target. On PvP, you will hit near people with this skill.... this is a bad idea if you don´t want to bother other players..... :

Damage: 2*(500+500)=2000 (460-540, 500 for the calculations)

Result: 2000-(2*120)=1760 (I think we cannot hit a critical damage using this skill.)

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Considerations:

• Monsters have less abs than players. If I'm not mistaken an iron fist has 21.
  
• I know maximize don´t work with Grand Smash... :'(....but i don´t know if it works with Great Smash or Impulsion. If it works or even if it is fixed, the damage shown here are higher.
  
• Formulas are beautiful only if they are correct. I made these calculations based on the idea that I have of how damage is calculated. If i´m wrong, post, and help all of us.... :-X
  
• “Rafters, if i hit someone with a impulsion, and he has less than 1760 hp, Will i kill him/her?” I really don´t know, furthermore, I don´t think so. We need someone experienced here to say yes or no, and why.
  
• I think we can be evaded or blocked (just on PvP) in all these attacks, just not sure about the spark. As for missing the attack (defense), I think it is only possible in grand smash.
  

 

I'm loving playing with my mech, and i hope you guys have helped a little, so don´t give up or sell your mech at high levels because you are tired of the spark.... :'(....We can do everything (train, SoD, hunt and PvP), sometimes it´s hard, but we can.... ;D

 

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rafters

[Gogg 3]

You can't PvP properly and hunting is a pain in the ass

[Tim3vil 0]

Nice post, rafters  ;D

[rafters 0]

Thanks! I will test all of them soon.

 

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rafters

[ChemicalJesto 0]

Wait wait wait.

 

How is Spark that much damage? Isn't the minimum damage 300 with the only change being the max damage + w/e your mech level is. [300-400+(LVL X 4) so if mech is 110 the maximum damage spark can do is 300-840] even using any forces will not effect the end result of damage using spark. Or am I just swirling my brains? Cause regardless of what weapon you use the damage will always be the same.

[coreyobrien 0]

Pretty sure the (LVL X 4) damage is added to both the minimum and maximum. So it would be 740 - 840. I could be mistaken though.

[ChemicalJesto 0]

Can we get some confirmation on the skill Spark please? Cause now this thread got me all confused about how spark damage works.

[Gogg 3]

Pretty sure the (LVL X 4) damage is added to both the minimum and maximum. So it would be 740 - 840. I could be mistaken though.

That's how it works

[ChemicalJesto 0]

That's how it works

 

Thanks for the confirmation

[marcyao 0]

so what is your suggestion attck that were gonna use in hunting mode?? i love to hunt at the same time train.. thanks

[molly 0]

Pretty sure the (LVL X 4) damage is added to both the minimum and maximum. So it would be 740 - 840. I could be mistaken though.

That's how it works

 

The formula should be (300-400 ) + ((lvl*4)*(lvl/75))

 

I think it would be more balanced.

 

[march 0]

maximize still bug?

[davv 2]

was there an update with notice saying "maximize is fixed" ?

 

no.

[march 0]

ok, tnx man