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thisisrauldo

they must be working on some probably bugs, I've saw a few guys talking about it in the Bug report page

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sotkulaja

one bug I noticed was that I could vote twice within 12 hours. Had about 10 hours in between and tried to vote and it went through. :D

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Adiace

Obviously they are adding some stuffs  :D

 

I hope they are doing something to prevent people from abusing it.  Like borrowing phones from friends and voting 20-30 times every 12 hrs or asking people to vote for them.  Now i see stuff like copper stones and 20% stones are flooding the market which I hope wont have a detrimental effect on the economy in the long run.

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sotkulaja

It will have an effect, but think of it this way; the GM's are planning new updates which will introduce new features that also will have an effect to the economy, so so flow with it and dont buy copper stones? xD

 

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Also, how the economy has always worked, is that unless you're one fo the high lvl characters playing and getting to go to the new maps etc, you're pretty much screwed financially untill you have access to that place. And by then the economy has already stabilised and you have no way of achieving that level of wealth that the ones who were there first have. That's how PT has worked since the beginning. I remember a time when a transparo cost an arm and a leg to get. Or if you found one you could mandate the price of it how ever you liked. Used to be like 1.2mil to 2mill money with the money drop rates being x1. 50-100 gold per monster and nobody really bothered picking that up. So, dont be worried for the economy of a game that much :) Just trying to make people think of the economy of the game from another point of view. It will always find balance.

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Adiace

It will have an effect, but think of it this way; the GM's are planning new updates which will introduce new features that also will have an effect to the economy, so so flow with it and dont buy copper stones? xD

 

edits:

 

Also, how the economy has always worked, is that unless you're one fo the high lvl characters playing and getting to go to the new maps etc, you're pretty much screwed financially untill you have access to that place. And by then the economy has already stabilised and you have no way of achieving that level of wealth that the ones who were there first have. That's how PT has worked since the beginning. I remember a time when a transparo cost an arm and a leg to get. Or if you found one you could mandate the price of it how ever you liked. Used to be like 1.2mil to 2mill money with the money drop rates being x1. 50-100 gold per monster and nobody really bothered picking that up. So, dont be worried for the economy of a game that much :) Just trying to make people think of the economy of the game from another point of view. It will always find balance.

 

 

erh... i have played PT for 15 years and I have seen private servers come and go because of failed economy.  Also, I am talking about people abusing or exploiting the voting system which is of course not the intention of the GMs.  The game find balance because the GMs monitor the game and stop these exploits in time.

 

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sotkulaja

ok, you have more experience than I do.  I have never really played for years on end, more of a "now and then" player. I actually always wondered why private servers usually fail. I thought it was simply due to player base going down and not enough to do in the game previously. I never thought that it could actually be the economy. Good point :) Anyway, the first ones to get a hold of new items are usually the ones to get the most out of them from sales anyway. But in this situation that might not be a good example since the issue is the items through the voting system which have been very expensive in the past i recon? and now the prices are going down and that is what worries people. Well, for me it's good that the prices of aging etc is going down since i've never had the tenacity to play this game to really get into the aging thingy since it's way too fruiting expensive anyway. 

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ok, you have more experience than I do.  I have never really played for years on end, more of a "now and then" player. I actually always wondered why private servers usually fail. I thought it was simply due to player base going down and not enough to do in the game previously. I never thought that it could actually be the economy. Good point :) Anyway, the first ones to get a hold of new items are usually the ones to get the most out of them from sales anyway. But in this situation that might not be a good example since the issue is the items through the voting system which have been very expensive in the past i recon? and now the prices are going down and that is what worries people. Well, for me it's good that the prices of aging etc is going down since i've never had the tenacity to play this game to really get into the aging thingy since it's way too fruiting expensive anyway.

 

This game is mostly about upgrading items(buying and selling mostly) so economy is the number one factor for me.

 

I am all for prices going down which should be the case as items which are not available readily previously are now with the voting systems.  I am talking about abusing and exploiting the system which means a lot more than intended are going into the market.  So let say the intended number of increased coppers going into the market is 1k, now maybe the result is 10k with the abuse.

 

 

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astrobobo

Yea, that was a big surprise to see Age stones on Vote system, becouse before it just worked to get some free Rebrith, which don't affect no other-players games. (And i use to vote twice a day, 1 on pc other on my phone). I thougth that was not that big deal.

But with good items there. It really needs some Fix to prevent it.

 

And yes, i already see Privates going down, with much ppl online, but becouse of the economy broken. (happened becouse of hackers, or Bug on server.)

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This game is mostly about upgrading items(buying and selling mostly) so economy is the number one factor for me.

 

I am all for prices going down which should be the case as items which are not available readily previously are now with the voting systems.  I am talking about abusing and exploiting the system which means a lot more than intended are going into the market.  So let say the intended number of increased coppers going into the market is 1k, now maybe the result is 10k with the abuse.

 

Good point. Abusing and exploiting is a no go. >:(

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jaylz

I have left other private servers for lack of personal shops and new things to do.  Gets boring.  And difficult if no one is selling anything in shops.  This server is amazing.  They have annual events like xmas, easter, halloween, valetines... then they have random ones like wanted morif and wolf, big head, mini monsters, etc.  Every week I get home from a work trip and there seems to be some random event going on.  also this server has a million quests... so if you get bored of a char you can go on a different one and level that guy up with the quests.. and theres almost never a break in the quests until you get to lvl 110.... but by that time youve been giving a third eye.  Plus you go into any of the three servers and you have a million shops. Always people playing no matter time of the day or night it is.

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Adiace

It will have an effect, but think of it this way; the GM's are planning new updates which will introduce new features that also will have an effect to the economy, so so flow with it and dont buy copper stones? xD

 

edits:

 

Also, how the economy has always worked, is that unless you're one fo the high lvl characters playing and getting to go to the new maps etc, you're pretty much screwed financially untill you have access to that place. And by then the economy has already stabilised and you have no way of achieving that level of wealth that the ones who were there first have. That's how PT has worked since the beginning. I remember a time when a transparo cost an arm and a leg to get. Or if you found one you could mandate the price of it how ever you liked. Used to be like 1.2mil to 2mill money with the money drop rates being x1. 50-100 gold per monster and nobody really bothered picking that up. So, dont be worried for the economy of a game that much :) Just trying to make people think of the economy of the game from another point of view. It will always find balance.

 

erh... i have played PT for 15 years and I have seen private servers come and go because of failed economy.  Also, I am talking about people abusing or exploiting the voting system which is of course not the intention of the GMs.  The game find balance because the GMs monitor the game and stop these exploits in time.

 

"Please note that the items bought with VP can't be traded or sold via Personal Shop."  The GMs do monitor the economy of the game closely and that is a very good sign. 

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Rod

We made the VP items untradeable for innumerous reasons, first of all because we see those items as a way of players being rewarded for playing the game and using them for their own benefits.

Secondly, there were players not only abusing the new vote system by voting with proxy IPs in many accounts at the same time, but they were also taking advantage of those items being free to make some gold in order to do real money transactions with the exterior. Which means that everyone could become rich in-game just by voting every single day and not having to spend hours on playing like it should be. Therefore, we fixed it. :)

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thisisrauldo

We made the VP items untradeable for innumerous reasons, first of all because we see those items as a way of players being rewarded for playing the game and using them for their own benefits.

Secondly, there were players not only abusing the new vote system by voting with proxy IPs in many accounts at the same time, but they were also taking advantage of those items being free to make some gold in order to do real money transactions with the exterior. Which means that everyone could become rich in-game just by voting every single day and not having to spend hours on playing like it should be. Therefore, we fixed it. :)

 

wow! Nice work Wartale & rpt staff

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We made the VP items untradeable for innumerous reasons, first of all because we see those items as a way of players being rewarded for playing the game and using them for their own benefits.

Secondly, there were players not only abusing the new vote system by voting with proxy IPs in many accounts at the same time, but they were also taking advantage of those items being free to make some gold in order to do real money transactions with the exterior. Which means that everyone could become rich in-game just by voting every single day and not having to spend hours on playing like it should be. Therefore, we fixed it. :)

 

1. make VP items account bound xD.. no more real money transactions outside of Rpt! so sad to vote only playstyle xD..

 

2. each account can only vote after killing 100 monsters per day xD.. mule accounts..? gogo Garden of Freedom kill 100 hopies!

 

3. each account can sell 1 VP item by completing 1 VP quest.. not playing the game and still get to earn gold by voting..? nah go spend 1hour complete the VP quest and u can sell 1 VP item by selecting 1 VP item in ur inventory to remove that Account-bound xD..

 

4. u add ur own boys xD..

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BBuddy~

It's kind of sad not being able to sell those itens. For someone like me, having a 12x char, it isn't easy to get gold, and it was one of the best ways to do it.

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Adiace

It's kind of sad not being able to sell those itens. For someone like me, having a 12x char, it isn't easy to get gold, and it was one of the best ways to do it.

 

erh... unless you are abusing the system too, I don't see how 12 hrs for 1 vote point i.e. 10 vp in 5 days(20% stone worth 20 mil) is the best way to get gold.  Do SOD or go et1 npc items will get you like 10 mil in 1hr. 

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We made the VP items untradeable for innumerous reasons, first of all because we see those items as a way of players being rewarded for playing the game and using them for their own benefits.

Secondly, there were players not only abusing the new vote system by voting with proxy IPs in many accounts at the same time, but they were also taking advantage of those items being free to make some gold in order to do real money transactions with the exterior. Which means that everyone could become rich in-game just by voting every single day and not having to spend hours on playing like it should be. Therefore, we fixed it. :)

 

really awesome... thanks GM Wartale

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BBuddy~

It's kind of sad not being able to sell those itens. For someone like me, having a 12x char, it isn't easy to get gold, and it was one of the best ways to do it.

 

erh... unless you are abusing the system too, I don't see how 12 hrs for 1 vote point i.e. 10 vp in 5 days(20% stone worth 20 mil) is the best way to get gold.  Do SOD or go et1 npc items will get you like 10 mil in 1hr.

There you go. What SoD? If I get a Aging Stone, i'd get 20kk every 12 hours, while exping in ad2.

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Adiace

It's kind of sad not being able to sell those itens. For someone like me, having a 12x char, it isn't easy to get gold, and it was one of the best ways to do it.

 

erh... unless you are abusing the system too, I don't see how 12 hrs for 1 vote point i.e. 10 vp in 5 days(20% stone worth 20 mil) is the best way to get gold.  Do SOD or go et1 npc items will get you like 10 mil in 1hr.

There you go. What SoD? If I get a Aging Stone, i'd get 20kk every 12 hours, while exping in ad2.

 

Sod will be up soon and they only disabled the vote system 4-5 days ago.

 

How do you get ageing stone every 12 hrs?  If you can do that while others take 5 days, that is the reason GM want to stop this.

 

At the end of the day, the vote system is a benefit given to you to get items for self used.  It is not for you to get gold.

 

 

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BBuddy~

It's kind of sad not being able to sell those itens. For someone like me, having a 12x char, it isn't easy to get gold, and it was one of the best ways to do it.

 

erh... unless you are abusing the system too, I don't see how 12 hrs for 1 vote point i.e. 10 vp in 5 days(20% stone worth 20 mil) is the best way to get gold.  Do SOD or go et1 npc items will get you like 10 mil in 1hr.

There you go. What SoD? If I get a Aging Stone, i'd get 20kk every 12 hours, while exping in ad2.

 

Sod will be up soon and they only disabled the vote system 4-5 days ago.

 

How do you get ageing stone every 12 hrs?  If you can do that while others take 5 days, that is the reason GM want to stop this.

 

At the end of the day, the vote system is a benefit given to you to get items for self used.  It is not for you to get gold.

I forgot it costs 10 VP lol  :P

I only bought one Aging Stone from VP. I'm feeling so ashamed right now  :-[

 

Even abusing the system that would be impossible, lol

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Adiace

It's kind of sad not being able to sell those itens. For someone like me, having a 12x char, it isn't easy to get gold, and it was one of the best ways to do it.

 

erh... unless you are abusing the system too, I don't see how 12 hrs for 1 vote point i.e. 10 vp in 5 days(20% stone worth 20 mil) is the best way to get gold.  Do SOD or go et1 npc items will get you like 10 mil in 1hr.

There you go. What SoD? If I get a Aging Stone, i'd get 20kk every 12 hours, while exping in ad2.

 

Sod will be up soon and they only disabled the vote system 4-5 days ago.

 

How do you get ageing stone every 12 hrs?  If you can do that while others take 5 days, that is the reason GM want to stop this.

 

At the end of the day, the vote system is a benefit given to you to get items for self used.  It is not for you to get gold.

I forgot it costs 10 VP lol  :P

I only bought one Aging Stone from VP. I'm feeling so ashamed right now  :-[

 

Even abusing the system that would be impossible, lol

 

It is very possible to get a ageing stone every 12 hrs with enough proxy IPs and multiple accounts.  In fact, you can easily double or triple that amount.  Now I am laughing at those people who have 50 ageing stones sitting in their mules accounts which they can't trade, sell or drop on the floor.

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