razorinflux 0 Report post Posted January 1, 2011 I have Compulsion and Mag Sphere both level 10. I also have PA, MA, Spark, and Spark Shield level 10. What skill should I get Golem, or Impulsion? And is there any skill worth getting with my regular SPs? I've seen Grand Smash and MWM to be the only ones worth getting, or am I missing something? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gogg 3 Report post Posted January 1, 2011 If you're builded on Spark you don't need other skills, just let those points over there~ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razorinflux 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2011 I figure I might as well use them. I really don't want to reskill to go any other build. What seems more practical? I was thinking Golem, since I already have Spark. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gogg 3 Report post Posted January 2, 2011 Golem helps a bit on hunting I my opinion Magnetic Sphere is a bit useless, the damage is low and that just work on 1vs1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
koleo 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2011 MS is great for early sod rounds, kills mobs before they spawn and what not and it can be a 1hit, and on top of that it's every second. Doing 200-400 extra damage every second seems like a must to me. Don't do golem if you're spark, because if you're trying to grind away in an hs the golem will take away the amount of mobs hitting you, therefore you're blocking less mobs and your SS is doing less damge, so no golem. Then Impulsion does less damage overall since it has a limited amount of mobs hit, but I heard that it works similar to MS in SOD and kills mobs before they spawn. So out of the two I would say neither, unless you go soding; then I would have to say impulsion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontcheatplz 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2011 Don't forget that Golem fails to be summoned a lot just like as crys.Once it fails,you have to wait 6 minutes or go back to town.But still useful in hunt maps. MS is good not only for SOD,but also for hunting.The dmg is 300 avg per second.So when it takes 30 sec to beat a monster,MS total dmg becomes 9000. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
koleo 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2011 Don't forget that Golem fails to be summoned a lot just like as crys.Once it fails,you have to wait 6 minutes or go back to town.But still useful in hunt maps. MS is good not only for SOD,but also for hunting.The dmg is 300 avg per second.So when it takes 30 sec to beat a monster,MS total dmg becomes 9000. +1 MS and Comp are a must for mech t4 skills. And there is nothing that pisses me off more than my golem not spawning 7/10 times. My golem is a black hole on my skills list and will probably stay like that until I'm hunting et3. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razorinflux 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2011 I have MS and Comp both 10. I'm leaning more towards Impulsion. It can be useful in a small hunting spawn, such as LT. That's where I've found it useful. Grand Smash never hits, as Impulsion never misses. So, in an under 9 mob spawn, Impulsion would be worth getting. I haven't even bought Golem level 1, and I don't plan on it now. You don't even need to get all the skills in order to get the T5. So.. For now, I think Impulsion. Now, what about my SPs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gogg 3 Report post Posted January 2, 2011 In small spawns Impulsion might work well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razorinflux 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2011 I think we all agree that Golem is bad. 50% spawn rate and takes away from you being a tank. The only logical choice is Impulsion, even though it is kinda useless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gogg 3 Report post Posted January 2, 2011 Depends on how you'll use the golem Like, you can have it lvl10 but don't use while training. But when you go hunt it might be useful on tanking for you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razorinflux 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2011 That is true. I am looking for some skills that would be helpful for hunting. Are there any on the SP side that are worth having? Besides the ones I already have? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
koleo 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2011 Impulsions damage is set in stone, so at higher levels it will be less useful (even in hunting) like in et2+. But I think it would work great in Lt and LoC. All in all I would say if you really want to use those points then put them in impulsion until 115-120 then change them back into golem at 120+. But that's just my opinion and I actually haven't leveled either skill. With the SP I still would say keep them sitting there unless you plan on hitting 132 when you can have both MWM and GS lvl 10 and then you can just swap stat points around between hunting/bc/xping. So if you feel like you must use them then maybe chose GS or MWM. Some players put it in the poison attribute but knowing mechs that will probably be buggy and there aren't many high lvl poison mobs that I know of. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pleiades 0 Report post Posted January 3, 2011 In my opinion, I like MS as it's just an extra attack every second at lvl 10. Mech kill so slow anyway, so as a spark mech, it may take 20 sparks or more to kill an undead king hopy in et1, and that means at least 20 hits from MS at the same time. I've been putting my extra skill points in GS, as it's the only other attack skill that increases as I have better weapons, etc. Impulsion makes me choose between using spark/GS or impulsion/GS for killing. It's not as good at lvl 10 as spark lvl 10, so when would I use it? And it's not as good as GS lvl 10 with a good weapon. Golem seems like a waste - the idea of it acting as a tank for me when i'm solo-ing is great, but in et1, he shows up about 50% of the time, and I don't need it any place lower than that (i'm only 112). So I've been putting the extra points in golem, because at least he will be used sometimes and GS. Wish I had a better choice... I'd rather imputlsion bet the replacement for spark... kind of like prs chain lightning versus divine lightning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
koleo 0 Report post Posted January 3, 2011 Yeah that makes sense. And I think it takes way more than 20 sparks to kill a KH though haha. If impulsion was boosted and hit mroe targets I would totally use it too. Plus the animation looks great with a big weapon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gogg 3 Report post Posted January 3, 2011 Spark build ain't good to hunt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
koleo 0 Report post Posted January 3, 2011 It's fine so far for me, you just have to go solo or you get out killed. In et1 I could tank and kill 6 mobs which is the most I have ever seen in there. Soon i'll be going to et2 and going to try it out there too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razorinflux 0 Report post Posted January 4, 2011 I could use Impulsion with a Love Sword, yeah? It would have the same damage all the time. So, I think it would be most useful for hunting, with my current setup. Correct? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gogg 3 Report post Posted January 4, 2011 No Impulsion sucks for hunt AND love sword is slow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
koleo 0 Report post Posted January 4, 2011 Impulsion after LoC and Lt will be pretty useless, but you can try it out if you really want to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razorinflux 0 Report post Posted January 4, 2011 Well it's either get both skills and I'll be good. Or pump points into one of them, just gotta pick one. Lol. Each has it's pros and cons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
koleo 0 Report post Posted January 4, 2011 Yeah or go impulsion until like 110ish then skill change to golem at 115 if you feel you need him for hunting. Also gogg, the spark hunting build works fine in et2. I have all bad gears nothing 110 and all subgears are 104 and I can tank and kill 3 gorgons easy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razorinflux 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2011 So, in patch 3153, it says Mech skills will be fixed... Does that mean ES will be fixed? If that's true, should I go ahead and get that? I mean, I'm mostly an exp build, but I would like to hunt a little. PVP is a no go, not much of a fan of it in this game. So, would that be a good idea? Or, would something else be better for exp/hunt? Spark 10 Spark Shield 10 MA & PA 10 Next would be ES 10? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
koleo 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2011 I would stick with SS since it adds defense and helps a ton in exping. The trade off wouldn't be worth it in my opinion at least. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razorinflux 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2011 I have all those level 10, and I still have points to spare... should I go with ES? Or something else? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites