Impulsion or Golem?

[koleo 0]

I have all those level 10, and I still have points to spare... should I go with ES? Or something else?

I dunno man. You can make gs 10 and just go full str if you wanna kill some 9x in BC or something. Also; are mechs still not fixed? I noticed that it says fixing mech bugs on v 3160 so I'm just wondering if sandurr did fix anything so far since the last patch. I read in chat that he's having difficulties with stacking skills (maxi+gs). Just a Q and fyi for ya lads.

[razorinflux 0]

I don't want PvP. Only a build for exp/hunting. And my build is currently set to tank, and I'd rather leave it like that. So, yeah. Skill fix patch hasn't been implemented yet, but it looks as if it's coming soon.

[koleo 0]

Well if you want to exp then you need spark build and if you want to hunt then you can keep your spark build or change into a hunter build, but then you would have to change all your skills/stats. But if you spark hunt then you use SS cause when you block those hits from high atk pow mobs it reflects tons of damage back at them, so ES would be a no go imo. You can for sure try it out if you want to block more and survive a wee bit more, but then again SS still does add str so I dunno

[razorinflux 0]

Would rather keep my spark build.. With this build, I can still tank. A hunt build would be similar to a power mech, no? Meaning I would be weak, and hardly more powerful. I'm just trying to see if there are any skills worth getting at this point.

[koleo 0]

Would rather keep my spark build.. With this build, I can still tank. A hunt build would be similar to a power mech, no? Meaning I would be weak, and hardly more powerful. I'm just trying to see if there are any skills worth getting at this point.

I dunno man, I'm stumped. I just put mine all in GS and in 20 lvls I can have mwm lvl 10 too!

You wont be able to make es lvl 10 until 114, and at 120 you can change to hunt build, so I mean I don't know if it's even worth it to use those stats at all. But for sure you can try and lvl ES if you wanna for hunting, not discouraging you at all, in fact I say try it out. Maybe you will discover a new epic mech build

[razorinflux 0]

Who knows, lol. I guess I'll just level a skill and be done with it.

[pleiades 0]

I made the following choices:

Mag Sphere and Comp at lvl 10 and extra elite points go into Golem for tanking when I'm hunting alone, specifically in et1.

Spark, SS, MA and PA lvl 10 and extra into Grand Smash for hunting 1-on-1.

 

When I'm going up against 2+ monsters that i can position close to each other, then I use spark. 

 

Recently, I switched from most of my extra stat points going into health, and instead kept health at 200 stat points and started pumping strength, with around 350 points in strength.  Now, will a nice force and my 110 claw and 110 hammer, I have a skill to kill a monster faster than what spark would kill, when needed.  I'll never be a speed killer like a pike, but when I need to kill something faster, GS (which is now at lvl 9 and I'm at lvl 113) it's better than only having spark to rely upon.  Probably most useful for killing event monsters such as a snowman to get 50+% of the damage so you see the drops before others.

[razorinflux 0]

I like your idea, but I think I'll just change stat points around all the time, for the situation needed. Exping, I can use higher HP, higher spirit. Hunting, go higher strength. Thanks for the tip.

[koleo 0]

That's a pretty good and interesting mech build.

Sadly GS is pretty lame without MWM and Maxi though but the build would still work. Mine is similar with lvl 10 GS and I just swap stats around when I want a 1v1 build.

I still prefer my spark hunting though

[pleiades 0]

I agree that GS is still pretty lame without MWM or maxi.  I am still trying to figure out the best method for 1-on-1 killing.  I find it interesting that spark makes so many monsters recoil and hurts their ability to hit me.  For example, if I use spark against an undead king hoppy, i may only get hit from them when I pot as they seem to get moved backwards from a continuous onslaught of spark.  However, if I use GS, they still get their hits in. 

 

And to be honest, it requires a forced mirage or something to really make GS and effective killer.  But, without any other options for the extra skill points, it seems to be the best option.  I'm not sure whether to put my next skill point into MWM versus GS versus maxi.  I played around with turning on maxi at lvl 1 instead of MA when I'm fighting one monster and it does provide a nice little (notice I said "little") lift in damage.

I wonder whether it makes sense to take the extra skill points and instead of stacking all of them in GS like i've done, spread them out across MWM and GS or maybe all three so that they grow equally over time.  Anyone have an opinion on this idea?

 

Care to share what your "hunting" stat build is versus your "xping" stat build?

[Gogg 3]

Maximize doesn't stack with Grand Smash, I wonder how do you get a lift in damage by using it O__O unless you're using Great Smash or default hit that's pretty useless skill

[pleiades 0]

my bad... i didn't realize that patch 3160 still hasn't been implemented yet.  I was assuming their was a lift just based upon looking at my greater attack power stats on the stat screen.  I didn't notice whether I was killing faster.

 

OMG, are the mech skills ever going to be fixed?

[Gogg 3]

That's the same doubt I have

 

By fixing ES they discovered a really really old bug on PT, ES is T1 skill, so it's being hiding defensive problems that mechs got since the early days of PT

[pleiades 0]

How do you know they fixed ES yet?  How do you check to see if your block is higher?

[Gogg 3]

I was told ES had a kind of bug that add way more block than it's description (and I bet that was even more than only block) and that now ES just don't add it anymore, it got fixed

 

And I checked the block didn't really make any difference on the old school style. I tried ES lvl10, ESlvl1 and no ES... nothing changed, I was taking the same dmg / time on PvP or PvE. As Wartale said maybe 11% isn't enough to make big difference our perception could reach

[razorinflux 0]

I don't see how ES blocking too much would be a problem? So what if the block is at 100%? I don't think any mechs will argue with that "bug". All of us mechs will surely "take one for the team" just so this patch can be released. Am I right?

[pleiades 0]

Razor, we could treat 100% block as a special mech event!  Not that it would help us kill any faster any way.  Dying isn't really the problem with mechs... it's painfully slow killing that is. 

[koleo 0]

Razor, we could treat 100% block as a special mech event!  Not that it would help us kill any faster any way.  Dying isn't really the problem with mechs... it's painfully slow killing that is.

Dieing in BC is a pretty big problem atm though.

Also in Ept Es is bugged and gives like over 80% block rate. At 8x, a mech can block 10x pike Cs (really pissed off the god pikes on there when you run around with a great shield and no armor lol )

Tbh I wouldn't mind that bug being here haha.

On topic; I would have to say that spark hunting is the most effective way to hunt until 12x and et3. By hunting like this you can go hunting and then exp 5 mins later without having to change builds which is also really nice.

[razorinflux 0]

Razor, we could treat 100% block as a special mech event!  Not that it would help us kill any faster any way.  Dying isn't really the problem with mechs... it's painfully slow killing that is.

Dieing in BC is a pretty big problem atm though.

Also in Ept Es is bugged and gives like over 80% block rate. At 8x, a mech can block 10x pike Cs (really pissed off the god pikes on there when you run around with a great shield and no armor lol )

Tbh I wouldn't mind that bug being here haha.

On topic; I would have to say that spark hunting is the most effective way to hunt until 12x and et3. By hunting like this you can go hunting and then exp 5 mins later without having to change builds which is also really nice.

 

I agree completely. Makes things super easy. Although, I might switch GS for ES, if it gets fixed.