FrosT 2 Report post Posted January 3, 2011 hi, was wondering why the magic of the BERSERK tier4 -60 fs cut abs fighter? the knight has the same magic to add injury and not lose anything, FS is the one who loses -60 abs, why not simply -60 draw the abs and leave as is? sry my english,BB =* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Artier 0 Report post Posted January 3, 2011 Apparently Berserk is -30Abs now, not -60Abs. Or atleast that's what's going to happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrosT 2 Report post Posted January 3, 2011 30?^^ and even if it's 30, lol, by losing 30 of abs? fs is very hurt by this, why not lose 30 knight too? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Artier 0 Report post Posted January 3, 2011 Yeah I should tell you something: The skill lists aren't always correct. Example of this: Wind Arrow says it never misses, and it does. If you read the notice yesterday on the homepage, Wartale said he reduced the -60 penalty to -30. If he hasn't done that, then he intends on doing it, I already said this in my first post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrosT 2 Report post Posted January 3, 2011 I know it, you understand .. but I still feel very uneven FS -30 lose abs .. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Artier 0 Report post Posted January 3, 2011 Yeah Fighters are unloved. In my opinion Knights need a nerf and Fighter needs Rage of Zecram to function like Brandish. But I'm not clever enough to do the coding for this stuff, so I can't exactly help with these ideas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrosT 2 Report post Posted January 3, 2011 I think Rage of Zecram should be increased 'area' and the damage should be in % (50% add ak pwer, for example) and remove the berserker abs and leave like this .. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rye 0 Report post Posted January 3, 2011 u know why this skill called berserker? btw another topic whine its like happen in everyday Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrosT 2 Report post Posted January 3, 2011 knight who thinks he's really good, ^^. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rye 0 Report post Posted January 3, 2011 my main pvp char is fighter trust or not is up 2 u BYEBYE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrosT 2 Report post Posted January 3, 2011 dude, what I wanted was balance, and I think unfair FS abs and lose the -30, KS (FOR EXAMPLE) 100-100 win and not lose anything, only that.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blobhead77 0 Report post Posted January 3, 2011 u want balance ? this topic is just ridiculus . remove ur destroyer skill if u want beserker - 0 abs . everything has balance ! dont wish for anothing over limit . READ THIS AND GO SLEEP : EVERY BODY KNOWS FIGHTER IS THE BEST CHAR IN PVP ! SO WHAT THE FCUK ARE U COMPLAINING ABOUT ? you even want fighter to have a skill like brandish<<<< WTF then who would wanna play other character ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrosT 2 Report post Posted January 3, 2011 best char in pvp? just for you. and that to talk like a retard? you are one? just did a question, if I had delayed going to bed you have to be hospitalized. bye Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gogg 3 Report post Posted January 3, 2011 Knights are overpowered, God Bless should be weaker. Fighters already got bad abs, even -30 abs is too much That's it It's ridiculous how some knight players need to cry about someone else's opinion when that is about making the game more fair to others Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RauL~ 1 Report post Posted January 3, 2011 It's ridiculous how some knight players need to cry about someone else's opinion when that is about making the game more fair to others Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Artier 0 Report post Posted January 3, 2011 u want balance ? this topic is just ridiculus . remove ur destroyer skill if u want beserker - 0 abs . everything has balance ! dont wish for anothing over limit . READ THIS AND GO SLEEP : EVERY BODY KNOWS FIGHTER IS THE BEST CHAR IN PVP ! SO WHAT THE FCUK ARE U COMPLAINING ABOUT ? you even want fighter to have a skill like brandish<<<< WTF then who would wanna play other character ? Are you serious? So you're saying, if Fighter had a balanced AoE skill like Knight does, then everyone would play Fighter? So you'd rather everyone stick with Knights, Pikes & Ata? Yeah ok, cause that's balanced. <---This is sarcasm by the way, you may not understand this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blobhead77 0 Report post Posted January 4, 2011 all im saying is that fs IS KNOWN AS THE FCUKING GOOD PVP CHAR ! now u want more shits edited with it to make it stronger ? that is just dumb ! go make some other suggestion except for this stupiddumbnoobidiototic topic ( im saying this to the topic creator only ) do u think it is easy to edit a char ? GMs dont have time for this shit ! instead of suggesting them to hurry on tier5 or fixing bugs etc .... u make this stupid topic ! get real ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gogg 3 Report post Posted January 4, 2011 Put -60 abs penalty for knight's God Bless too, and take off their hidden powers on skills Then let's see what happens~ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLink64 921 Report post Posted January 4, 2011 Consider Fighter mastery skills, Avening Crash with 95% added damage + atk rating from weapon + 15% critical (brutal lv 10) Great HP formula, Destroyer have 150% added dgm (total 100x3 + 150x3 = 750% of damage output for a quick attack + 28% critical, first t4 skill What do you want more? Knight Main Attack is Grand Cross, that have 80% o attack damage and 80% of atk rating, NO critical boost Crappy HP formula, Devine Piercing is very slow, no critical increase,plus last skill losing 1 EP point from useless Justice Sword Nerfed Drastic Spirit, that original PT adds 33% of Defense, here it adds 20% of Defense Nerfed Devine Shield Block Rate, original PT adds at lv 9 adds 6% of block, then here it adds at lv 10 crappy 4% of block what we have boosted so? God Bless adds 100 of Atk damage min and max, original gives 33 of min and max lets make the maths, 100-33, we got 67 more atk power. Then, we lost 13% of Defense power, and 3% of block rate, 2% of block rate plus 1 precious SP I think 13% and 3% of block isnt a fair change for 67 atk power increase. SO sit your ... and stop complaining about overpowered knights, change the disc, it's dont work anymore Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrosT 2 Report post Posted January 4, 2011 look at that blob ahuUHAUHahuAUHauhA the guy is RETARDED MENTAL! UHAuhauhAUHauhUHAuhauhAUHauhUHAa you say that's nonsense question about the balance of classes? ah guy, please remove it from the topic, I will not even discuss, bye. =* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gogg 3 Report post Posted January 4, 2011 Consider Fighter mastery skills, Avening Crash with 95% added damage + atk rating from weapon + 15% critical (brutal lv 10) Great HP formula, Destroyer have 150% added dgm (total 100x3 + 150x3 = 750% of damage output for a quick attack + 28% critical, first t4 skill What do you want more? Knight Main Attack is Grand Cross, that have 80% o attack damage and 80% of atk rating, NO critical boost Crappy HP formula, Devine Piercing is very slow, no critical increase,plus last skill losing 1 EP point from useless Justice Sword Nerfed Drastic Spirit, that original PT adds 33% of Defense, here it adds 20% of Defense Nerfed Devine Shield Block Rate, original PT adds at lv 9 adds 6% of block, then here it adds at lv 10 crappy 4% of block what we have boosted so? God Bless adds 100 of Atk damage min and max, original gives 33 of min and max lets make the maths, 100-33, we got 67 more atk power. Then, we lost 13% of Defense power, and 3% of block rate, 2% of block rate plus 1 precious SP I think 13% and 3% of block isnt a fair change for 67 atk power increase. SO sit your ... and stop complaining about overpowered knights, change the disc, it's dont work anymore Fighters got no defense boost, different from knights There's no atk rate added on AC Berserker got -60 abs PENALTY On the other hand knights got many defensive boosts Atk buffs with no penalties Shield skills add way more than they describe Don't talk about numbers if you don't know anything about them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rye 0 Report post Posted January 4, 2011 Consider Fighter mastery skills, Avening Crash with 95% added damage + atk rating from weapon + 15% critical (brutal lv 10) Great HP formula, Destroyer have 150% added dgm (total 100x3 + 150x3 = 750% of damage output for a quick attack + 28% critical, first t4 skill What do you want more? Knight Main Attack is Grand Cross, that have 80% o attack damage and 80% of atk rating, NO critical boost Crappy HP formula, Devine Piercing is very slow, no critical increase,plus last skill losing 1 EP point from useless Justice Sword Nerfed Drastic Spirit, that original PT adds 33% of Defense, here it adds 20% of Defense Nerfed Devine Shield Block Rate, original PT adds at lv 9 adds 6% of block, then here it adds at lv 10 crappy 4% of block what we have boosted so? God Bless adds 100 of Atk damage min and max, original gives 33 of min and max lets make the maths, 100-33, we got 67 more atk power. Then, we lost 13% of Defense power, and 3% of block rate, 2% of block rate plus 1 precious SP I think 13% and 3% of block isnt a fair change for 67 atk power increase. SO sit your ... and stop complaining about overpowered knights, change the disc, it's dont work anymore Fighters got no defense boost, different from knights There's no atk rate added on AC Berserker got -60 abs PENALTY On the other hand knights got many defensive boosts Atk buffs with no penalties Shield skills add way more than they describe Don't talk about numbers if you don't know anything about them AC +50% atr actually knight shield skills is not hidden power, is just 4%block and -20%dmg (way better than add pure abs like MS skill) even offical server got better than rpt, cos divine shield & drastic got nerfed here Berserker's PENALTY is going to -30abs, but hey its 120-120 atkp, thats huge and thats why it called Berserker and Fighter no have evade block boost skill thats the fact, its the way in pt it is still pike is best pvp char rightnow, evade+block+def, all have, and got ICE i used to play a knight & pike, but now i play Fighter i feel fine as now it is, Knight isnt that overpowered than you think, its just some knight only after get VL-ed then come out of safezone, hard to kill VL overpowered is ture, yes, if no VL = die, very easy to kill look at vietclan's knight, always no VL to BC war, but AVA's pike only VL then fight the knights get killed like million times, very easy job thats why they dont even get on the PVP clan ranking, i think their kill/die ratio is < 0.9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gogg 3 Report post Posted January 4, 2011 I won't waste my time with any of you anymore Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rye 0 Report post Posted January 4, 2011 yea, i wont neither coz its a retard topic unreasonable request how about change berserker skill name to Warrior's Spirit then i can partly agree u guys said above about remove the penalty the kr company game developer designed the skill like this maybe u can complain to them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLink64 921 Report post Posted January 4, 2011 I won't waste my time with any of you anymore Ok, sir Owner of the Truth. Numbers? I play as knight in every server, for like 8 years. I dont talk about numbers, i talk about real experiences. I'm a PvP player, if you dont believe, just go to youtube and search DarkLink64 continue this frigging baby cry that knights are overpowered Share this post Link to post Share on other sites