Easy4me2own 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2011 i feel sorry for all the ata's, being reduced to being lure slaves because their AoE sucks again ;D Just like the archers have been doing this whole time. : archers is diff, they deal insane amount of dmg , and tank also less. also i dont see why ata's shoudl suffer again. can u explain WHY delay on twist jav and ex rage? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Artier 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2011 i feel sorry for all the ata's, being reduced to being lure slaves because their AoE sucks again ;D Just like the archers have been doing this whole time. : archers is diff, they deal insane amount of dmg , and tank also less. also i dont see why ata's shoudl suffer again. can u explain WHY delay on twist jav and ex rage? That's true but Ata were able to have a good balanced at both without having to fuss as much as Archers did. Maybe it calls for a small dmg boost to Storm Javelin. Maybe it is a good idea to just reduce X-Rages dmg. But you gotta Agree Ata need a small nerf to them. :\ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gogg 3 Report post Posted January 5, 2011 Because we all want all the atas to quit this game Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Easy4me2own 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2011 i feel sorry for all the ata's, being reduced to being lure slaves because their AoE sucks again ;D Just like the archers have been doing this whole time. : archers is diff, they deal insane amount of dmg , and tank also less. also i dont see why ata's shoudl suffer again. can u explain WHY delay on twist jav and ex rage? That's true but Ata were able to have a good balanced at both without having to fuss as much as Archers did. Maybe it calls for a small dmg boost to Storm Javelin. Maybe it is a good idea to just reduce X-Rages dmg. But you gotta Agree Ata need a small nerf to them. :\ their 1:1 dmg is on the low side, they dont tank that good, their AoE was good, but its tier 4 skill, only 120+ can fully use it. Because we all want all the atas to quit this game will be all ata's except the one already being 140 then ^^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fuel 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2011 Thanks for fruiting all atas on server... its nice up with no xt rage... Why dont put delay in brandish, tornado, perfuration, diastr too? And is a test for tier 5? What tier 5? Anyone see and more, in tier 5 ata dont have skill do up.. -.- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TFSE Report post Posted January 5, 2011 No need for x-rage delay dmg reduction would have done fine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fuel 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2011 No need for x-rage delay dmg reduction would have done fine YESSSSSS With delay, ata will with what? Storm? Nice, run, lure, kill, run, and more run too.. Reduction a litlle is more better Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TFSE Report post Posted January 5, 2011 I don't understand the argument against storm javelin though. It works fine as an exping skill. It's just that x-rage works better. But all this talk about how "hard" it will be to exp for atas, because they have to lure and run? BS. Don't be so lazy. Archers have to lure and run so their perfo can hit straight lines. Yes, x-rage really only needed a dmg nerf and not a delay. No, it is not the end of the worlds for atas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Easy4me2own 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2011 I don't understand the argument against storm javelin though. It works fine as an exping skill. It's just that x-rage works better. But all this talk about how "hard" it will be to exp for atas, because they have to lure and run? BS. Don't be so lazy. Archers have to lure and run so their perfo can hit straight lines. it kills slow, and has small aoe. perforation is 3 times more effective, so u cant compare those 2 skills. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fuel 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2011 I don't understand the argument against storm javelin though. It works fine as an exping skill. It's just that x-rage works better. But all this talk about how "hard" it will be to exp for atas, because they have to lure and run? BS. Don't be so lazy. Archers have to lure and run so their perfo can hit straight lines. it kills slow, and has small aoe. perforation is 3 times more effective, so u cant compare those 2 skills. Exact!! Ata use one skill, archer can use 4-5 in the same time and perfuration is more powerfull comparet with storm! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TFSE Report post Posted January 5, 2011 I never said it works better than perfo. I've always thought that perfo was one of the better AoE skills (before archer damage got screwed over). They just use the same method: - lure mobs so they're easy to hit - run - hit straight line skill Just because ata's have to move to kill mobs doesn't mean they're doomed. Could storm jav use a boost now? Sure, why not. But complaining about how to use the skill is just laziness, tbh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
starmagic 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2011 I dont like how they add delay for x-rage either,soon enough people will ask to add delay back for CL as well. :-X I would like to see they buff bow summons and force of nature more instead of this. Fixing archer by nerf ata is not what I had imagined. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
koleo 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2011 In Ept archers are kings of SOD with perfo. Here people are lazy and don't like to move so they make mages lol. I wouldn't mind seeing an archer match up to a mage in SOD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Easy4me2own 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2011 well patch isnt there yet, hope sandurr rethinks some stuff... why put delay on twist jav? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TFSE Report post Posted January 5, 2011 Keep this a discussion, guys. That means with logical arguments and further suggestions/alternatives to the current situation. (For good examples look at easy4me2own's posts; criticism with reason). If you just want to complain then use FoS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnbyebye 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2011 I wouldn't mind a damage boost on Storm jav. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tommylizard 1 Report post Posted January 5, 2011 Keep this a discussion, guys. That means with logical arguments and further suggestions/alternatives to the current situation. (For good examples look at easy4me2own's posts; criticism with reason). If you just want to complain then use FoS. C'mon TSFE, don't be so Goggy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TFSE Report post Posted January 5, 2011 *TFSE If the situation calls for it, I will be as "Gogg"-like as I need to be. Please don't be the one to initiate such an action. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
December 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2011 Reduce damage on x rage it would suck when it have delay :-[ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gogg 3 Report post Posted January 5, 2011 So what if archers will be better at grinding than atas? Their weapon got almost the same damage and they can't use shields While atas can tank and train archers cant, they need something to help them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tommylizard 1 Report post Posted January 5, 2011 Their weapon may be the same damage, but their formula for attack and their attack power is way better than ata's. Now, their skills will be better too? It's not fair to nerf only atas just to make archers seem better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rye 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2011 becoz ata isn't suppose to be a AoE dmg dealer in pt (archer is) and X-rage is really easy to use, just standing in the spawn brainless spam it but archer need to run and lure, need to use 2x/3x strength to kill as fast as ATA and about someone retard saying put delay in brandish tornado perf dias there is no delay even in official server(maybe not all at lv10) thats the only AoE skill they get but Ata still get Storm, like I said in another topic(i didnt imagine sandurr would do it soon, but woke up found out ) id like to see nerf the X-rage both dmg & area (like 160%dmg to 100%dmg 145area to 100area) but sandurr put delay on X-rage will kill ya lazy ata lovers lazy guys, work harder plz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sly1 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2011 I agree with rye i dont think its an issue of whos being nerfed or not. I think that Archers should have better aoe because they were made to do it. And they do work to do that aoe with luring. Now atas were always built more 1 vs 1 and defensive not aoe so hes basically just changing the game to how it should of been...and how it was before! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rye 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2011 I agree with rye i dont think its an issue of whos being nerfed or not. I think that Archers should have better aoe because they were made to do it. And they do work to do that aoe with luring. Now atas were always built more 1 vs 1 and defensive not aoe so hes basically just changing the game to how it should of been...and how it was before! yea, thats what i think the only change in patch 3150 shock me is Prs HP formula boost thats pretty insane, Prs already x hard to kill if HP build Priestess HP Formula changed: from: ( Level *1.5 ) + ( Health *2.1 ) to: ( Level *1.5 ) + ( Health *4.2 ) and Archers perf gonna kill alot now i think Archer Perforation Attack Range, Damage Boost and Critical increased Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gogg 3 Report post Posted January 5, 2011 I didn't really like any of the HP formulas changes, apart of archers that will get a small upgrade More hp to fightes, pikes, mechs, knights... they don't need anything more And the changes on mages and prs would only make sense if that was about low health builds, but that will be insanity when it's about health builds Share this post Link to post Share on other sites