Mage very bad...

[moodmood 6]

I agree with the point that some classes better in xp~ing and some in pvp. that's why we need diff classes.

[-Kali- 0]

But mages are not good at exp anymore. Energy shield not working when no mana. Which means: mage die at a typical HS like Iron core map. And damage reduced. So all shitty now.

[bigpro 148]

maybe they need rest all chars like years ago ? very hard to make balance with lot of change 

[kuegen 36]

8 minutes ago, bigpro said:

maybe they need rest all chars like years ago ? very hard to make balance with lot of change 

nop they just need more testers prob ... and open beta before updates like this so the community can give feedback

[Seog 114]

17 hours ago, dredawg said:

mages should never be able to kill in pvp anyway, they should be a support class like prs.

hahaha!!! 

Even the official server mage can kill! Why not here?

[caiobuzati 10]

 

Everything started to go wrong when changing the mage by damage boorst, it is impossible to unify it with only one type of damage multiplier.

[TrapHouse 102]

What do you guys think about adding an attack rating boost to Death Ray? Somewhere in the range of +35%. With that value it would have the same hit possibility as Fighters using Avenging Crash and Knights using Grand Cross (if we are comparing characters with similar items/level).

The damage of Death Ray is good now. The only problem is that Magicians have very low attack rating compared to other classes because other classes main 1on1 spamable skills have attack rating boosts on them, while Death Ray does not.

 

About Stone Spike, it has the possibility to miss now. It's current damage boost is +71% with the possibly of 5 hits. Meteorite has a damage boost of +75% that always lands 3 hits. What about raising Stone Spikes damage boost from 71% to 80%? I believe with it being a Tier 5 skill, it should have a little more damage boost then Meteorite being a Tier 4 skill, but not much more because it has the possibility to land 2 more hits. In PvP, Stone Spike now does 75% of the total damage that it would do in PvE.

 

Thoughts? Leave feedback, don't just complain. That gets us no where. We all want a better balance.

[choncon 4]

In SL, my 141 Mage have damage 80-130 on mob with Death Ray.

But 141 MS have damage 280-350.

And K9 damage is bigger.

What do you think about this?

Is Damage of Death Ray good?

[TrapHouse 102]

7 minutes ago, choncon said:

In SL, my 141 Mage have damage 80-130 on mob with Death Ray.

But 141 MS have damage 280-350.

And K9 damage is bigger.

What do you think about this?

Is Damage of Death Ray good?

 

What is you're damage using Stone Spike in SL?

[choncon 4]

10 minutes ago, TrapHouse said:

 

What is you're damage using Stone Spike in SL?

I don't test Stone Spike in SL.

But i had Stone Spike in CT3. Damage is 180-220.

And with K9 of other player, i see 360-420 in T5 skill.

[TrapHouse 102]

Just now, choncon said:

But i had Stone Spike in CT3. Damage is 180-220.

180-220 x5 hits = 900-1100 damage in 1 cast.

Whats the problem?

[choncon 4]

Other thing i want to say: my Mage miss a lot when using DEATH RAY.

[TrapHouse 102]

1 minute ago, choncon said:

Other thing i want to say: my Mage miss a lot when using DEATH RAY.

 

Thoughts?

 

What do you guys think about adding an attack rating boost to Death Ray? Somewhere in the range of +35%. With that value it would have the same hit possibility as Fighters using Avenging Crash and Knights using Grand Cross (if we are comparing characters with similar items/level).

The damage of Death Ray is good now. The only problem is that Magicians have very low attack rating compared to other classes because other classes main 1on1 spamable skills have attack rating boosts on them, while Death Ray does not.

[choncon 4]

I know what you said.

But you Death Ray damage is not good as you said. It is really bad.

[choncon 4]

I see main dame of Stone Spike is 180-220 and 1 sub damage about 100.

I will test again in 1 mob.

[choncon 4]

I have tested with my mage.
Level : 141

WAND 122+22 -1-1

STAFF 134 SOL VIGOR -0-0

Map : SL (140)

 

Death Ray STAFF Damage (104)
http://imgur.com/WGV16zq

 

Death Ray WAND Damage (73)
http://imgur.com/6YmRPZN

 

Stone Spike STAFF (99 : 3 hit)
http://imgur.com/Z9vnAbH

 

Stone Spike WAND (66-67 : 3 hit)
http://imgur.com/zcdDOhV

 

[moodmood 6]

6 hours ago, TrapHouse said:

 

What is you're damage using Stone Spike in SL?

in 110 Map, my 128 mage stone spike did 200+ damage to mobs and my 118 mech did over 600+ damage in the same map and my mech only using devine mixed 1 hand claw.

 but maybe mage stone spike with 3 hits. so time used for both about the same with 118 mech a little bit faster. so now i stopped using mage... using mage to kill like kill forever.

[Omayron 11]

Guys. Go log EPt and See how Skills are balanced...... Knight, Shaman, Prst , Mech Are only Buffers for Exping,,,, FS and Ps only Charas u Can exp Fast with,,,

So if i See Wartale we can be Happy that Gms doing a good job and Balanced the Skills. Belive me

[TrapHouse 102]

1 minute ago, Omayron said:

Guys. Go log EPt and See how Skills are balanced...... Knight, Shaman, Prst , Mech Are only Buffers for Exping,,,, FS and Ps only Charas u Can exp Fast with,,,

So if i See Wartale we can be Happy that Gms doing a good job and Balanced the Skills. Belive me

 

I believe Magicans will be balanced nicely after the patch today.

The problem was that they were so OP to being with, that the initial nerf was to much. They will never be how they once were (1 death ray / 2 stone spikes from players using 122+22 wands killing 160 mechs), but will still be good AOE killers with stone spike, and not have Death Ray miss 60%+ of the time. People have to understand it is nearly impossible to get a skill balance correct when changing multiple skills at once. Initial patch was 4 days ago. At least people can see they made changes on Sunday and are making changes again today, so the staff is working on the issue to please everyone.

[moodmood 6]

i see the points, the stone spikes actually stepped all 5 hits when PvP?? In that case i would suggest that the damage reversed back to the previous and make it cant step to the same mob or players, that shd be the right way in many others game. 

Edited June 12, 2017 by moodmood

[Surfer 96]

1 hour ago, Omayron said:

Guys. Go log EPt and See how Skills are balanced...... Knight, Shaman, Prst , Mech Are only Buffers for Exping,,,, FS and Ps only Charas u Can exp Fast with,,,

So if i See Wartale we can be Happy that Gms doing a good job and Balanced the Skills. Belive me

just because its better than ept doesn't mean it does not have it flaws. First bad balance to Mage was in January with the new update (it became OP is pvp and shit in pve) and since then its the same OP in PVP more and more shit in PVE. And now its shit and both PVP and PVE.