What's wrong with this server?

[fabio95 27]

With every update that is released, I only see disadvantages and nerfs . How do you call it balancing?

The assassin is still bugged.
The Mage loose your massive DMG
Spark MS is just useful for Tanking , he have no dmg on spark
Pike & AS  can't up solo.
Now make some gold is impossible 'cause the farming in ct3 is nerfed . 

Really, how dare you to call it balancing ?

[Immortal 40]

Instead of being negative, how about post decent suggestions on how to improve?

[TrapHouse 102]

  On 6/11/2017 at 2:12 PM, Immortal said:

Instead of being negative, how about post decent suggestions on how to improve?

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If only everyone thought like you...

 

People want everything PERFECT, but don't know what perfect is so they suggest nothing and just complain.

[fabio95 27]

The server WAS perfect, but with this new patches is only harmed some players. 

[fabio95 27]

  On 6/11/2017 at 2:12 PM, Immortal said:

Instead of being negative, how about post decent suggestions on how to improve?

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I posted suggestions and none of them became true

 

[TrapHouse 102]

  On 6/11/2017 at 2:35 PM, fabio95 said:

The server WAS perfect, but with this new patches is only harmed some players. 

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Magicians having the ability to do "massive damage" as you say was perfect? Killing 160 characters in 1 death ray or stone spike?

 

Nice definition of perfect.

[fabio95 27]

  On 6/11/2017 at 2:39 PM, TrapHouse said:

 

Magicians having the ability to do "massive damage" as you say was perfect? Killing 160 characters in 1 death ray or stone spike?

 

Nice definition of perfect.

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PS and FS killing many players too... and where's the nerf on them ? MS can't go BC 'cause he have no dmg . 

[TrapHouse 102]

  On 6/11/2017 at 1:54 PM, fabio95 said:

The Mage loose your massive DMG
Spark MS is just useful for Tanking , he have no dmg on spark
Pike & AS  can't up solo.
Now make some gold is impossible 'cause the farming in ct3 is nerfed . 

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I'de like to hear you're input.

 

- What do you suggest for spark mechs? Give values, not examples.

- Pikes and Archers being able to exp alone. You suggest what? From what I know, Archers have the only AOE skill in the game that does critical damage too. They pump the majority of their stats into agility and have very high damage. How do you suggest to balance it without it becoming OP in PvP? Do you want Archers to rule BC as they currently do with there crazy high evasion + damage AND also be one of the best characters to EXP with? Pikeman's have not been good at EXP'ing since EPT. Tornado is their only main AOE skill besides Venom Spear which already does good damage. You want them to have the ability to 1 hit characters in BC with 3 different skills, and also the ability to mass kill?

- Making gold in CT3 was nerfed, correct. Do you think it was right for players to be able to make over 100kk in an hour? What do you suggest?

Edited June 11, 2017 by TrapHouse

[fabio95 27]

  On 6/11/2017 at 2:42 PM, TrapHouse said:

 

I'de like to hear you're input.

 

What do you suggest for spark mechs? Give values, not examples.

Pikes and Archers being able to exp alone. You suggest what? From what I know, Archers have a pet to tank, and Phoenix Shot is one of the strongest skills in the game.

Making gold in CT3 was nerfed, correct. Do you think it was right for players to be able to make over 100kk in an hour? What do you suggest?

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MS : Buff the spark 'cause he have  not dmg for up solo
AS have a good dmg on PhoenixShot, but i wonder if tanking so many monstes with pet. Like a FT2 she can't up solo. The same for PS. He take 4 hit and die.

Gold: Yeah , you can't make some money now. but think about. Where's low level players will go make money ? Think about. I was manking 10kk / Hour in ET1, now i make just 5kk/ hour.

SoD is no longer a alternative, 'cause only SS and FS can make money after round 6. (Solo of course )

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[TrapHouse 102]

  On 6/11/2017 at 2:43 PM, fabio95 said:

MS : Buff the spark 'cause he have  not dmg for up solo
AS have a good dmg on PhoenixShot, but i wonder if tanking so many monstes with pet. Like a FT2 she can't up solo. The same for PS. He take 4 hit and die.

Gold: Yeah , you can't make some money now. but think about. Where's low level players will go make money ? Think about. I was manking 10kk / Hour in ET1, now i make just 5kk/ hour.

SoD is no longer a alternative, 'cause only SS and FS can make money after round 6. (Solo of course )

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-  I said give values, not examples. How much damage do you think Spark should do? Do you think it should have a fixed rate as is does now, or % based? Either or, how much of each?

 

- Archers are not designed to tank multiple monsters. They have very high attack power / rating, and low defense / absorption / health. You suggest they tank like a melee but keep their power? Again, Pikeman's have the ability to deal massive damage with multiple 1on1 skills. They are not designed to EXP. They are similar to Assassin's, high critical and low health. You can't have a class tank multiple characters / monsters and also kill characters / monsters with ease. 

 

- Gold situation I understand where you are coming from. The staff will have to think of something to implement to help lower levels engage in the economy somehow. Perhaps something level based that is not easily abused. Easier said then done. 

 

- Maybe gold can be distributed evenly among players in each SoD room to help with that issue. If you're room makes 30kk score with 5 players, the gold would be distributed as if each player made 6kk score.

 

[fabio95 27]

  On 6/11/2017 at 3:04 PM, TrapHouse said:

-  I said give values, not examples. How much damage do you think Spark should do? Do you think it should have a fixed rate as is does now, or % based? Either or, how much of each?

 

- Archers are not designed to tank multiple monsters. They have very high attack power / rating, and low defense / absorption / health. You suggest they tank like a melee but keep their power? Again, Pikeman's have the ability to deal massive damage with multiple 1on1 skills. They are not designed to EXP. They are similar to Assassin's, high critical and low health. You can't have a class tank multiple characters / monsters and also kill characters / monsters with ease. 

 

- Gold situation I understand where you are coming from. The staff will have to think of something to implement to help lower levels engage in the economy somehow. Perhaps something level based that is not easily abused. Easier said then done. 

 

- Maybe gold can be distributed evenly among players in each SoD room to help with that issue. If you're room makes 30kk score with 5 players, the gold would be distributed as if each player made 6kk score.

 

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Look. i'm a Spark MS lv 122. The spark's dmg is based on lv.   ( 300 ~400 [Lv x4])  Its not based on Attck pow, But only at level 122. I have no DMG to up solo.
Maybe if the spark buffed for (500 ~600 [ Lv x 5] ) MS will be can up solo. 'cause in FT2 i have only 170 DMG on Monster. In HG i have 7 ~9 DMG on boss

[Freppe 80]

Are you sure about your dmg on spark? I just tried with my lvl 134 ms in FT2 and he did 580-700 dmg on mobs which of course is not super high, but it is ok when you have a wrench :), Also spark shield adds good dmg if you do not use it at the moment!

[fabio95 27]

  On 6/11/2017 at 3:13 PM, Freppe said:

Are you sure about your dmg on spark? I just tried with my lvl 134 ms in FT2 and he did 580-700 dmg on mobs which of course is not super high, but it is ok when you have a wrench :), Also spark shield adds good dmg if you do not use it at the moment!

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I have a wrench with oredo swiftness mix. And i sure i have no dmg . I take about 20 seconds to kill a monster

[LikeG6 117]

  On 6/11/2017 at 2:42 PM, TrapHouse said:

- Making gold in CT3 was nerfed, correct. Do you think it was right for players to be able to make over 100kk in an hour? What do you suggest?

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It always worked that way, and the game economy was perfect 500kk = 900c ~ 950c was perfect; Now with this change the value of KK in game will be worth more than the donate, and this is a BIG problem, because the server is supported by donate, not KK, think this in the long term the problem that will occur: "Why I'll make you donate, if I can brew KK which is better? " Review this is just what I personally.

[TrapHouse 102]

  On 6/11/2017 at 3:17 PM, LikeG6 said:

It always worked that way, and the game economy was perfect 500kk = 900c ~ 950c was perfect; Now with this change the value of KK in game will be worth more than the donate, and this is a BIG problem, because the server is supported by donate, not KK, think this in the long term the problem that will occur: "Why I'll make you donate, if I can brew KK which is better? " Review this is just what I personally.

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Always that way? No, it was not. GB value was down to 700c at one point, and went back up for other reasons.

[LikeG6 117]

  On 6/11/2017 at 3:19 PM, TrapHouse said:

 

Always that way? No, it was not. GB value was down to 700c at one point, and went back up for other reasons.

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Yes but always for less, and that's right, now the GB is floating between 1000 ~ 1200c who will make donate to buy any item in the game? I myself will prefer to sell everything in GB if the server continues like this. 

[Robin564 11]

  On 6/11/2017 at 3:22 PM, LikeG6 said:

Yes but always for less, and that's right, now the GB is floating between 1000 ~ 1200c who will make donate to buy any item in the game? I myself will prefer to sell everything in GB if the server continues like this. 

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Its 950-1000 not 1.2k ?

[Wartale 7,457]

We're happy to hear the gold value is increasing, that's exactly what we wanted. We're constantly working hard to make sure Wartale is not a pay-to-win game. We want every player to be able to afford premium items (not just players who can donate). Keeping gold valuable is the way to do it right. Keep in mind also that gold cannot be purchased through Coin Shop.

 

Also, we don't understand how making 100kk in 1 hour seemed normal to anyone. We still remember a time when 20-30kk in 1 hour was considered great.

 

As for classes, we're still tweaking them, sorry if we didn't get it right immediately... 

[fabio95 27]

  On 6/11/2017 at 4:42 PM, Wartale said:

We're happy to hear the gold value is increasing, that's exactly what we wanted. We're constantly working hard to make sure Wartale is not a pay-to-win game. We want every player to be able to afford premium items (not just players who can donate). Keeping gold valuable is the way to do it right.

 

Also, we don't understand how making 100kk in 1 hour seemed normal to anyone. We still remember a time when 20-30kk in 1 hour was considered great.

 

As for classes, we're still tweaking them, sorry if we didn't get it right immediately... 

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OK, thanks for that. Can u say when the new 5tier 's skill gonna be unblock ?

[Wartale 7,457]

Hm we don't know a date exactly yet because our team is very small and right now we're working all of us on:

- Finishing Clan system

- Adding Secret Lab quests

- New login screen with the new logo and etc

- New website (with quest list etc)

- New forum theme (to fit the new logo, website etc)

 

Sorry if we are slow  We work every day (more than 8 hours a day) including weekends

[Tensaiken 2]

You are doing great work in order to keep this server running. kuddo's to you!

 

 

But PS could use some love, EXP wise :p

[Combreak 380]

@Wartale

 

Little update for Fighter...

 

Possible Add extra Damage or Critical after use Roar (Similar Assassin Eye Pikeman) ???

 

Note 1: Work in PVE.

Note 2: Don't work in PVP.

 

Thanks :)

Edited June 11, 2017 by Combreak

[Bills 2]

Not satisfied what they did yesterday, today the result of this maintenance was to decrease + 10% skil damage
The rate slightly increased but a totally value insignificant 
While Fs uses roar all the time, when at least the skil  finished it can already use it again
MS in  bc with skil of defense that in theory should reduce the damage of GG but this is not what happens

Archer with abusive damage in PERF, where in SW today was seen kill someone full 140 + 22 with only 2 skils

Ks with the best skill up of the game, Yes who wants up has to turn ks ..

How many top level make up
Classes like PS ASS is a neglect

But none of this is important, but rather do something totally fast and without thinking about the magician just to please some ..
Enjoy WPT ^^

[diemurd 484]

  On 6/11/2017 at 4:42 PM, Wartale said:

We're happy to hear the gold value is increasing, that's exactly what we wanted. We're constantly working hard to make sure Wartale is not a pay-to-win game. We want every player to be able to afford premium items (not just players who can donate). Keeping gold valuable is the way to do it right. Keep in mind also that gold cannot be purchased through Coin Shop.

 

Also, we don't understand how making 100kk in 1 hour seemed normal to anyone. We still remember a time when 20-30kk in 1 hour was considered great.

 

As for classes, we're still tweaking them, sorry if we didn't get it right immediately... 

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alright, if you want us to make 20-30kk hour in ct3 u must balance other things like:

aging cost must be like 50kk tops for +22

premium itens like ressu must cost like 10k

teleports must be cheaper, cores must be cheaper, everything that u buy on npc must be cheaper!

what people sell on personal shops i understand the price will automaticaly change, but pay 150kk for aging +22 of an item making 20-30kk hour is an absurd!

[lhyamauti 56]

  On 6/11/2017 at 8:26 PM, diemurd said:

alright, if you want us to make 20-30kk hour in ct3 u must balance other things like:

aging cost must be like 50kk tops for +22

premium itens like ressu must cost like 10k

teleports must be cheaper, cores must be cheaper, everything that u buy on npc must be cheaper!

what people sell on personal shops i understand the price will automaticaly change, but pay 150kk for aging +22 of an item making 20-30kk hour is an absurd!

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