idanqwe 0 Report post Posted January 10, 2011 Arrow of Rage - at lvl 10 will be- LV*6 with 140 area , new AOE skill to use? Avalanche - will it replace wind arrow?, after the patch it has 6 atk speed per shot, and 73% per shot (for 6 shots in lv.10) Golden Falcon - increased to 15.0 hp recovery Bomb Shot - gets 100% power attack , 200% vs demons and 250-500 splash dmg with 150 area(at lv.10), will this skill replace perforation? Perforation - gets +4 atk range, +9% dmg boost , and +10% crit from what it had before the patch(at lv.10). will you still keep using this skill for AOE? Wolverine - get much stronger, +10k hp and + 3000 def from what it had before the patch. ( at lv.10) Force of Nature - add +120 atk power at lv.10 so, what do you think? you'll change some of your skills? I'd like to hear your opinions oh yeah.. thanks Wartale for the changes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NanoEntity 8 Report post Posted January 10, 2011 So many skills got boosted, it actually looks good. Might actually make an Archer now because it might be worth playing it, the way it was the whole class was just useless. But what I would like to see is Falcon - Change the damage to % Based like Golden Falcon for low level Archers. Phoenix Shot - 100% Charge time at lv 10, maybe... And Tire 5 Skills just completely suck for Archer, like WTF... Compared to other classes. What I wanna see is at least 1 Attack skill for Tire 5, that has AoE Damage, a Skill that can be used for PvE that enables Archer to kill Mobs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Artier 0 Report post Posted January 10, 2011 The changes are fantastic. Now opens debates once again for WA or AVa to be lvl10 first - Cause now Ava competes very well, all in all it looks better it will just take more skill to use it - in hunting ofcourse, PvP it's still silly. Bomb Shot is now worth comparing to Perforation, I'm going to test its damage when it is here and see if it is maybe even the new skill Archers will want for leveling. Although I doubt this because Perforation has received a boost too, and its Critical and Added Range is always valuable. The HP Regen on the Falcon is appreciated honestly, anything to help Archers HP I love... FoN, I love you Wartale for making it useful, it's always been the crappiest buff besides Zenith in my opinion. Also before anyone yells "Overpowered", I disagree, because FON is an area buff, it's not just for personal use. Wolf, nice to see this buff, might be worth using now, because I usually find Crystals to be alot better, but after this buff this may change. Arrow of Rage, I'm skeptical about this. I have a feeling it won't be as good as it sounds, it sounds too good to be true. And to the guy who says Archer T5 sucks...You're wrong. Huge area HP Regen, Added Movement Speed and Evasion? - Beyond this there's a Stun for us? To put it simple: You are so wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NanoEntity 8 Report post Posted January 10, 2011 I'm talking about PvE, not PvP, the stun is useless... I want a skill for PvE, that kills mobs for Tire 5. Besides 99.99999% of this game is PvE. And to the guy who says Archer T5 sucks...You're wrong. Huge area HP Regen, Added Movement Speed and Evasion? - Beyond this there's a Stun for us? To put it simple: You are so wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Artier 0 Report post Posted January 10, 2011 I was talking about PvE too. How is added Evasion, Movement Speed & HP Regen bad in PvE? The minus on Atk Rtg isn't a huge deal, seeing as Archers have so much Agility. I don't see how it's a bad T5 setup to be honest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NanoEntity 8 Report post Posted January 11, 2011 I'm talking about Attack skill ... that kills monster... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Artier 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2011 The 2 attack skills of T5 are Stun Arrow and Long Arrow. Granted Long Arrow is better for PvP, but Stun Arrow is amazing for both PvE/PvP. The point is Long Arrow & Stun Arrow are good utility skills, they serve a purpose other than pure damage. Archer don'tneed a new damaging skill for 1v1, we have Phoenix Shot which does the job perfectly. So T5 is good for Archers - saying that though, changes can and probably will be made before it's released. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akira 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2011 These skills of T5 looks more like a combat with combos (like pikes). Considering that archer will stay with those skills, archer can shot a long shot, when foe get closer, stun shot->ph shot, stun shot cooldown's over->ph shot, hit/run->long shot etc This way considering the pvp style. Those skills also looks good for hunt, a welcome-long shot, stun, damage dealer atacks/stun/wolv but they doesn't seems good for EXping, since they are 1-target skills. Of course, when next balance patch comes, archer's tier 1-3 would be a very good massive-killers like atas, so the tactical-style would be improved a lot for archers when t5's released. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
martual 1 Report post Posted January 11, 2011 archer would pawn anyone this time on dmg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TFSE Report post Posted January 15, 2011 Bomb shot's still gonna be too slow for my taste, but I would look into arrow of rage definitely Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akarivn 0 Report post Posted January 17, 2011 If the splash dmg of Bomb Shot gets bonus (+200% vs demons) then it is absolutely a choice for demon maps. If not, Arrow of Rage is way to go in training. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites