gromka 29 Report post Posted July 8, 2017 what is the cause? not only more killers in SL or DIQ its bad change 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vazarth 9 Report post Posted July 8, 2017 +1 Although not a nerf, but a power to the other characters Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLink64 921 Report post Posted July 8, 2017 Not a nerf but a bug fix. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrapHouse 102 Report post Posted July 8, 2017 Just now, DarkLink64 said: Not a nerf but a bug fix. Well it did get nerfed as well. Prior to patch it had a 10% stun chance on every hit, now its 5% on only the first hit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lhyamauti 56 Report post Posted July 8, 2017 (edited) Just now, DarkLink64 said: Not a nerf but a bug fix. Yeap Edited July 8, 2017 by lhyamauti Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLink64 921 Report post Posted July 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, TrapHouse said: Well it did get nerfed as well. Prior to patch it had a 10% stun chance on every hit, now its 5% on only the first hit. Stun wasnt bugged neither was a problem. Problem was the damage of bolts that caused stun ignoring ABS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thalysson 34 Report post Posted July 8, 2017 Fixes an error within a few weeks of release, not years later Was the damage high? Yes, more is not solved simply leaving almost 0 compared to what is now Is now a character who does not tank well and does not hit well. The good news is that now only plays in the class who really likes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
- D E A T H S T R O K E - 1,764 Report post Posted July 8, 2017 I'm gonna miss sod with 7 knights Anyway, Ks will be able to join di quest or sl hs, but it wont have exclusive slots, all chars now have almost the same AoE DPS. Mages with row damage: stone spike in close range with chance of missing. Shamam with attack speed and average AoE damage Priest with support skills , ext and ice meteorite, IM might have a quite low damage, but it freezes and it also could hit twice or more,improving the dps Atalanta with Average Aoe damage and soul sucker Knight with close ranged Aoe damage and high linear damage (piercing is preety strong, mainly vs mutants) Fighter with close ranged Aoe damage :chance of crit Archer with linear damage: high chance of crit Pikeman with wide damage area and venom spear , venom spear only hits 8 targets, but it has a pretty high damage . Assassin i dont know and Mech is the tanker. So, anyone can get pt now, every char with pros and cons. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alulas 2 Report post Posted July 8, 2017 1 hour ago, - D E A T H S T R O K E - said: I'm gonna miss sod with 7 knights Anyway, Ks will be able to join di quest or sl hs, but it wont have exclusive slots, all chars now have almost the same AoE DPS. Mages with row damage: stone spike in close range with chance of missing. Shamam with attack speed and average AoE damage Priest with support skills , ext and ice meteorite, IM might have a quite low damage, but it freezes and it also could hit twice or more,improving the dps Atalanta with Average Aoe damage and soul sucker Knight with close ranged Aoe damage and high linear damage (piercing is preety strong, mainly vs mutants) Fighter with close ranged Aoe damage :chance of crit Archer with linear damage: high chance of crit Pikeman with wide damage area and venom spear , venom spear only hits 8 targets, but it has a pretty high damage . Assassin i dont know and Mech is the tanker. So, anyone can get pt now, every char with pros and cons. Hmmm... for those who agree with this huge KS nerf (ok, ks had his crown in DIQ / SOD & HS SL) let me tell you: from now, DIQ will take, at least, 45min or more each time, HS SL or SL quest will make you stay in map for the double of time (worst, still seeing drops like Magenia / Cyania / Battle Town cores and those Highlander/Eragon´s set) to get, if you are a really lucky guy, an oredo or bellum. So, i agree to nerf a bit, but bring the KS to almost nothing again, its an error. Maybe is the reason to find SL HS empty today, isnt it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mcslug2 211 Report post Posted July 8, 2017 17 minutes ago, Alulas said: Hmmm... for those who agree with this huge KS nerf (ok, ks had his crown in DIQ / SOD & HS SL) let me tell you: from now, DIQ will take, at least, 45min or more each time, HS SL or SL quest will make you stay in map for the double of time (worst, still seeing drops like Magenia / Cyania / Battle Town cores and those Highlander/Eragon´s set) to get, if you are a really lucky guy, an oredo or bellum. So, i agree to nerf a bit, but bring the KS to almost nothing again, its an error. Maybe is the reason to find SL HS empty today, isnt it? just did 4 diqs all about 27 min with 2 ks inside pt no bug change on that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Luca 226 Report post Posted July 8, 2017 (edited) I do not understand why people think everything was fine as it was. I do not care if xp was faster before. or I'll take longer to finish quest now. I just want a fair game, I trust the staff, and I believe they know better than I do to balance. It's so simple for me. Edited July 8, 2017 by Luq Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreatKing 40 Report post Posted July 8, 2017 5 hours ago, Luq said: I just want a fair game, I trust the staff, and I believe they know better than I do to balance. agree on this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BBuddy~ 203 Report post Posted July 9, 2017 5 hours ago, Alulas said: Hmmm... for those who agree with this huge KS nerf (ok, ks had his crown in DIQ / SOD & HS SL) let me tell you: from now, DIQ will take, at least, 45min or more each time, HS SL or SL quest will make you stay in map for the double of time (worst, still seeing drops like Magenia / Cyania / Battle Town cores and those Highlander/Eragon´s set) to get, if you are a really lucky guy, an oredo or bellum. So, i agree to nerf a bit, but bring the KS to almost nothing again, its an error. Maybe is the reason to find SL HS empty today, isnt it? You don't even know what you are saying lol i did about 9 DIQ's today. The LONGEST was 33 minutes long. The fastest was 23 minutes long. KS's were overpowered, but that's not the end of Wartale. Actually, it's a new beginning, and a pretty exciting one. we are going to see a new variety of characters in parties. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alulas 2 Report post Posted July 9, 2017 1 minute ago, BBuddy~ said: You don't even know what you are saying lol i did about 9 DIQ's today. The LONGEST was 33 minutes long. The fastest was 23 minutes long. KS's were overpowered, but that's not the end of Wartale. Actually, it's a new beginning, and a pretty exciting one. we are going to see a new variety of characters in parties. I can agree with it, but ppl are telling about fair game, thing that i can´t see in the near future. Many changes was made in chars - ks isn´t the only one - but "exclusive slots" will belong to strong donors or players that can spend many hours ingame. For those who works, study all day long, or can donate for any kinda reason, it will be really difficult to have highest items or try to drop it in SL HS. This "new beggining" with this kind of drop rate (for exemple) we have today in high maps will let the difference between donors and non-donors players greater than today. I dont think it is fair. And we all see that difference in Siege War today. The problem with KS now is the same what happened to Mages. The changes has made them a good support to lvling from 12x>13x in AD maps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreatKing 40 Report post Posted July 9, 2017 1 hour ago, Alulas said: but "exclusive slots" will belong to strong donors or players that can spend many hours ingame. 1 hour ago, Alulas said: This "new beggining" with this kind of drop rate (for exemple) we have today in high maps will let the difference between donors and non-donors players greater than today wake up..there aint no "free" ride in this world, rather than be envious of the donors you should be thankful to them for w/out them playing this game would not be possible. BTW, i'm not a donor but through friendships and other legal game initiatives all my chars have gears that can approximate donor players' items...mana will not just fall from the heavens you got to do something productive yourself and complaining is not productive. Rather than complain just enjoy the game, be happy after missing the game for several months (it closed, from the old xRPT to wartale) it's back and many are allowed to play it for free. Also, between players whose interest is to enhance his/her char and a game master whose interest is to enhance and improve the game, the choice is no brainer, i will always put my trust in the game master. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alulas 2 Report post Posted July 9, 2017 Lets time shows how it works. Btw, i never told that i don´t put my trust in admins or GM´s. If i did not trust them, i wouldn´t play in this server. Its only an opinion. So, as i said, lets see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BBuddy~ 203 Report post Posted July 9, 2017 37 minutes ago, bruneco said: O que eu acho e que ks servia para alguma coisa agora não serve pra mais nada pois no PvP não mata agora. No pve .pq Ms tem dano e defesa da tem dano mais velocidade mais o maior Hp do jogo os tem esquiva é um dano absurdo então GM vamos dar uma balanceada no ks aumentar dano mais abs ou Def ou Hp alguma coisa tem que mudar pro ks fica comparado aos demais em respeito a defesa Hp e ataque https://wartale.com/forum/topic/77205-this-is-an-english-section/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heoantap 21 Report post Posted July 9, 2017 regards to all the ks :D:D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
@drake 29 Report post Posted July 9, 2017 someone just level up 160 GOODBYE KS 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vknight 2 Report post Posted July 9, 2017 (edited) LS is adjusted and delay skill must be adjusted also, now it should have 0s delay :) because its damage is not better than BD skill otherwise LS should not be a skill in tier 5 Edited July 9, 2017 by vknight Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lamp18 1 Report post Posted July 9, 2017 All should do All should die... Balances, where ALL rises and ALL dies too... imo, balance all the characters ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLink64 921 Report post Posted July 9, 2017 (edited) 17 hours ago, heoantap said: regards to all the ks :D:D I'm very happy with the changes. Exp in overall maybe got a hit, but everything else will be better. Now, more or less all classes are on the same level in PvE, just a few exceptions like Assassin. No more generic Knights in the game. Edited July 9, 2017 by DarkLink64 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
@drake 29 Report post Posted July 10, 2017 8 hours ago, DarkLink64 said: I'm very happy with the changes. Exp in overall maybe got a hit, but everything else will be better. Now, more or less all classes are on the same level in PvE, just a few exceptions like Assassin. No more generic Knights in the game. you are also knight and generic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Danado 0 Report post Posted July 12, 2017 On 08/07/2017 at 3:44 PM, Luq said: Não entendo por que as pessoas pensam que tudo estava bem como estava. Não me importo se o xp fosse mais rápido antes. Ou vou levar mais tempo para terminar a missão agora. Eu só quero um jogo justo, eu confio na equipe, e acredito que eles sabem melhor do que eu fazer para equilibrar. É tão simples para mim. Me desculpa mais eu descordo totalmente do que fizerao no ks o jogo tava justo todo mundo upando agora depois de anos ele vem mexer no raio nada ver irmao.Ao seu d uma coisa geral d parando de jogar Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Danado 0 Report post Posted July 12, 2017 Just now, Danado said: Me desculpa mais eu descordo totalmente do que fizerao no ks o jogo tava justo todo mundo upando agora depois de anos ele vem mexer no raio nada ver irmao.Ao seu d uma coisa geral d parando de jogar Eu to cendo um deles agora maioria do pessoal ta parando de upar o ks do tinha raio pra upar nem em pvp prestava ja ta um lixo agora n da pra upar com ele nem pau totalmente nerf, de os gms e adms n qiserem valor o jogo acho bom eles fazerem uma coisa rápido galera q faz muito donat ta parado e so vai voltar quando ele ajeitar isso irmao. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites