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gromka

what is the cause?

not only more killers in SL or DIQ its bad change

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Vazarth

+1

Although not a nerf, but a power to the other characters

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TrapHouse
Just now, DarkLink64 said:

Not a nerf but a bug fix. 

 

Well it did get nerfed as well. Prior to patch it had a 10% stun chance on every hit, now its 5% on only the first hit.

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lhyamauti

 

Just now, DarkLink64 said:

Not a nerf but a bug fix. 

Yeap

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DarkLink64
3 minutes ago, TrapHouse said:

 

Well it did get nerfed as well. Prior to patch it had a 10% stun chance on every hit, now its 5% on only the first hit.

Stun wasnt bugged neither was a problem.

Problem was the damage of bolts that caused stun ignoring ABS.

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thalysson
Fixes an error within a few weeks of release, not years later
Was the damage high? Yes, more is not solved simply leaving almost 0 compared to what is now
Is now a character who does not tank well and does not hit well.
The good news is that now only plays in the class who really likes.

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- D E A T H S T R O K E -

I'm gonna miss sod with 7 knights 

 

Anyway, Ks will be able to join di quest or sl hs, but it wont have exclusive slots, all chars now have almost the same AoE DPS.

Mages with row damage: stone spike in close range with chance of missing.

Shamam with attack speed and average AoE damage

Priest with support skills , ext and ice meteorite, IM might have a quite low damage, but it freezes and it also could hit twice or more,improving the dps

Atalanta with Average Aoe damage and soul sucker

Knight with close ranged Aoe damage and high linear damage (piercing is preety strong, mainly vs mutants)

Fighter with close ranged Aoe damage :chance of crit

Archer with linear damage: high chance of crit

Pikeman with wide damage area and venom spear , venom spear only hits 8 targets, but it has a pretty high damage .

Assassin i dont know and Mech is the tanker.

So, anyone can get pt now, every char with pros and cons.

 

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Alulas
1 hour ago, - D E A T H S T R O K E - said:

I'm gonna miss sod with 7 knights 

 

Anyway, Ks will be able to join di quest or sl hs, but it wont have exclusive slots, all chars now have almost the same AoE DPS.

Mages with row damage: stone spike in close range with chance of missing.

Shamam with attack speed and average AoE damage

Priest with support skills , ext and ice meteorite, IM might have a quite low damage, but it freezes and it also could hit twice or more,improving the dps

Atalanta with Average Aoe damage and soul sucker

Knight with close ranged Aoe damage and high linear damage (piercing is preety strong, mainly vs mutants)

Fighter with close ranged Aoe damage :chance of crit

Archer with linear damage: high chance of crit

Pikeman with wide damage area and venom spear , venom spear only hits 8 targets, but it has a pretty high damage .

Assassin i dont know and Mech is the tanker.

So, anyone can get pt now, every char with pros and cons.

 

Hmmm... for those who agree with this huge KS nerf (ok, ks had his crown in DIQ / SOD & HS SL) let me tell you: from now, DIQ will take, at least, 45min or more each time, HS SL or SL quest will make you stay in map for the double of time (worst, still seeing drops like Magenia / Cyania / Battle Town cores and those Highlander/Eragon´s set) to get, if you are a really lucky guy, an oredo or bellum.

So, i agree to nerf a bit, but bring the KS to almost nothing again, its an error.

Maybe is the reason to find SL HS empty today, isnt it?

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mcslug2
17 minutes ago, Alulas said:

Hmmm... for those who agree with this huge KS nerf (ok, ks had his crown in DIQ / SOD & HS SL) let me tell you: from now, DIQ will take, at least, 45min or more each time, HS SL or SL quest will make you stay in map for the double of time (worst, still seeing drops like Magenia / Cyania / Battle Town cores and those Highlander/Eragon´s set) to get, if you are a really lucky guy, an oredo or bellum.

So, i agree to nerf a bit, but bring the KS to almost nothing again, its an error.

Maybe is the reason to find SL HS empty today, isnt it?

just did 4 diqs all about 27 min with 2 ks inside pt no bug change on that

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Luca

I do not understand why people think everything was fine as it was.

 

I do not care if xp was faster before. or I'll take longer to finish quest now.

 

I just want a fair game, I trust the staff, and I believe they know better than I do to balance.

 

It's so simple for me. :-)

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GreatKing
5 hours ago, Luq said:

I just want a fair game, I trust the staff, and I believe they know better than I do to balance.

 

agree on this.

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BBuddy~
5 hours ago, Alulas said:

Hmmm... for those who agree with this huge KS nerf (ok, ks had his crown in DIQ / SOD & HS SL) let me tell you: from now, DIQ will take, at least, 45min or more each time, HS SL or SL quest will make you stay in map for the double of time (worst, still seeing drops like Magenia / Cyania / Battle Town cores and those Highlander/Eragon´s set) to get, if you are a really lucky guy, an oredo or bellum.

So, i agree to nerf a bit, but bring the KS to almost nothing again, its an error.

Maybe is the reason to find SL HS empty today, isnt it?

You don't even know what you are saying lol

 

i did about 9 DIQ's today. The LONGEST was 33 minutes long. The fastest was 23 minutes long.

 

KS's were overpowered, but that's not the end of Wartale. Actually, it's a new beginning, and a pretty exciting one.

 

we are going to see a new variety of characters in parties.

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Alulas
1 minute ago, BBuddy~ said:

You don't even know what you are saying lol

 

i did about 9 DIQ's today. The LONGEST was 33 minutes long. The fastest was 23 minutes long.

 

KS's were overpowered, but that's not the end of Wartale. Actually, it's a new beginning, and a pretty exciting one.

 

we are going to see a new variety of characters in parties.

I can agree with it, but ppl are telling about fair game, thing that i can´t see in the near future.
Many changes was made in chars - ks isn´t the only one - but "exclusive slots" will belong to strong donors or players that can spend many hours ingame.

For those who works, study all day long, or can donate for any kinda reason, it will be really difficult to have highest items or try to drop it in SL HS.
This "new beggining" with this kind of drop rate (for exemple) we have today in high maps will let the difference between donors and non-donors players greater than today.
I dont think it is fair. And we all see that difference in Siege War today.

The problem with KS now is the same what happened to Mages. The changes has made them a good support to lvling from 12x>13x in AD maps.

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GreatKing
1 hour ago, Alulas said:

but "exclusive slots" will belong to strong donors or players that can spend many hours ingame.

 

1 hour ago, Alulas said:

This "new beggining" with this kind of drop rate (for exemple) we have today in high maps will let the difference between donors and non-donors players greater than today

 

wake up..there aint no "free" ride in this world, rather than be envious of the donors you should be thankful to them for w/out them playing this game would not be possible.

 

BTW, i'm not a donor but through friendships and other legal game initiatives all my chars have gears that can approximate donor players' items...mana will not just fall from the heavens you got to do something productive yourself and complaining is not productive. Rather than complain just enjoy the game, be happy after missing the game for several months (it closed, from the old xRPT to wartale) it's back and many are allowed to play it for free.

 

Also, between players whose interest is to enhance his/her char and a game master whose interest is to enhance and improve the game, the choice is no brainer, i will always put my trust in the game master.

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Alulas

Lets time shows how it works. Btw, i never told that i don´t put my trust in admins or GM´s. If i did not trust them, i wouldn´t play in this server.
Its only an opinion. So, as i said, lets see.

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BBuddy~
37 minutes ago, bruneco said:

O que eu acho e que ks servia para alguma coisa agora não serve pra mais nada pois no PvP não mata agora. No pve .pq Ms tem dano e defesa da tem dano mais velocidade mais o maior Hp do jogo os tem esquiva é um dano absurdo então GM vamos dar uma balanceada no ks aumentar dano mais abs ou Def ou Hp alguma coisa tem que mudar pro ks fica comparado aos demais em respeito a defesa Hp e ataque

https://wartale.com/forum/topic/77205-this-is-an-english-section/

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vknight

LS is adjusted and delay skill must be adjusted also, now it should have 0s delay :) because its damage is not better than BD skill otherwise LS should not be a skill in tier 5 :D

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lamp18

All should do
All should die...
Balances, where ALL rises and ALL dies too...
imo, balance all the characters ...

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DarkLink64
17 hours ago, heoantap said:

regards to all the ks :D:D

 

I'm very happy with the changes. Exp in overall maybe got a hit, but everything else will be better. Now, more or less all classes are on the same level in PvE, just a few exceptions like Assassin.

No more generic Knights in the game. 

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@drake
8 hours ago, DarkLink64 said:

I'm very happy with the changes. Exp in overall maybe got a hit, but everything else will be better. Now, more or less all classes are on the same level in PvE, just a few exceptions like Assassin.

No more generic Knights in the game. 

 

you are also knight and generic

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Danado
On 08/07/2017 at 3:44 PM, Luq said:

Não entendo por que as pessoas pensam que tudo estava bem como estava.

 

Não me importo se o xp fosse mais rápido antes. Ou vou levar mais tempo para terminar a missão agora.

 

Eu só quero um jogo justo, eu confio na equipe, e acredito que eles sabem melhor do que eu fazer para equilibrar.

 

É tão simples para mim. :-)

Me desculpa mais eu descordo totalmente do que fizerao no ks o jogo tava justo todo mundo upando agora depois de anos ele vem mexer no raio nada ver irmao.Ao seu d uma coisa geral d parando de jogar 

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Danado
Just now, Danado said:

Me desculpa mais eu descordo totalmente do que fizerao no ks o jogo tava justo todo mundo upando agora depois de anos ele vem mexer no raio nada ver irmao.Ao seu d uma coisa geral d parando de jogar 

Eu to cendo um deles agora maioria do pessoal ta parando de upar o ks do tinha raio pra upar nem em pvp prestava ja ta um lixo agora n da pra upar com ele nem pau totalmente nerf, de os gms  e adms n qiserem valor o jogo acho bom eles fazerem uma coisa rápido galera q faz muito donat ta parado e so vai voltar quando ele ajeitar isso irmao.

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