djguina 0 Report post Posted January 24, 2011 low level usually dont have val ring, dgs or kel amulet.. mp regem low... then... more spirit will not influence at all the damage, tanking, you just have to stay much mp atq with sparky Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gogg 3 Report post Posted January 24, 2011 100 spirit, more than enough. High mana still pointless Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djguina 0 Report post Posted January 24, 2011 100 spirit, more than enough. High mana still pointless Heal, Str, Tal, Agi... too... then i use 437 in spirit =)... Shift Click and watch tv ^^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Artier 0 Report post Posted January 24, 2011 100 spirit, more than enough. High mana still pointless Heal, Str, Tal, Agi... too... then i use 437 in spirit =)... Shift Click and watch tv ^^ Good for you. I still advise 100-ish spirit and High HP though. And lol @ "Low levels dont have Val rings etc etc"...As if you need that to tank. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akarivn 0 Report post Posted January 25, 2011 Almost the same here. I have 300 SPR. I shift click the monster. Then I read newspaper. @Artier: It seems that you have experience on every chars of this game. It's always nice to read your post, friend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
koleo 0 Report post Posted January 25, 2011 High spirit is better than hp if you don't need it. Having 2k Hp is useless if you only need 800. While 1k mp helps more than having something that's useless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akarivn 0 Report post Posted January 27, 2011 That is exactly the reason why I put some 300 points in SPR. It works great !!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
koleo 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2011 Yeah I used to go for a 1000 hp rest mp build but I just swapped to about ~800 hp and rest mp with over 1000mp now. I have been using this for over a week now and just did 116-117.5 with no problems in ft2. I believe I'm going to try base hp and full spirit build soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_LOL_killer 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2011 100 spirit, more than enough. High mana still pointless Heal, Str, Tal, Agi... too... then i use 437 in spirit =)... Shift Click and watch tv ^^ Good for you. I still advise 100-ish spirit and High HP though. And lol @ "Low levels dont have Val rings etc etc"...As if you need that to tank. not everyone has nice equips, for those who dont have like me i use 100+ sprt and 100+ hp in stats and what do i take to lvl10 1st from these: compulsion , golem , or impulsion? the rest of my 4tier already lvl10 tnx Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gogg 3 Report post Posted January 29, 2011 "the rest of my tier 4" haha Compulsion should be the first one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_LOL_killer 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2011 so impulsion is still not good? and do mobs at some hunt maps have encripted dmge that directly dmges your hp? i mean i can tank at md1 no problem but i went to ice2 and 1 monster's dmge is killing me (i have buff) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gogg 3 Report post Posted January 29, 2011 No idea about mobs damage Impulsion can be useful, but Spark is the ass kicker skill you got so far Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
koleo 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2011 I have tried impulsion and it only works well in some (very few) shituations. 1: First rounds of sod it kicks ass. 2: Low lvls when you don't want to train spark. 3: when exping and mobs are placed very randomly around so that spark only affects 3-5 mobs, in this case using impulsion is more efficient since it can attack up to 15. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gogg 3 Report post Posted January 29, 2011 Now you got a guide of when Impulsion is useful Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
koleo 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2011 Yup. I only have it because I don't need to hunt until at least ct3, plus it helps tons in sod. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akarivn 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2011 Yeah I used to go for a 1000 hp rest mp build but I just swapped to about ~800 hp and rest mp with over 1000mp now. I have been using this for over a week now and just did 116-117.5 with no problems in ft2. I believe I'm going to try base hp and full spirit build soon. I do not suggest you do that because I think we should have enough strengh to get about +15xx weigh with which we can collect mana and sell for some gold. Do not listen to me if you are already billionaire. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pleiades 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2011 The increased abs by compulsion is only effective to targeted mobs.You can kill mobs in your lvl maps very fast, so compulsion is useless there. I recommend you 1st get magnetic sphere to Lv10.You'll see its nice skill when it gets Lv10.(useless until 10).Impulsion is also usefull especially when partying. Are you sure that the increased abs of compulsion is only effective to targeted mobs? I know that the attraction portion is, but abs are increased for the duration of compulsion and reflected in your stats. I can't imagine that they've figured out a way to have a different set of abs for different groups of monsters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
koleo 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2011 The increased abs by compulsion is only effective to targeted mobs.You can kill mobs in your lvl maps very fast, so compulsion is useless there. I recommend you 1st get magnetic sphere to Lv10.You'll see its nice skill when it gets Lv10.(useless until 10).Impulsion is also usefull especially when partying. Are you sure that the increased abs of compulsion is only effective to targeted mobs? I know that the attraction portion is, but abs are increased for the duration of compulsion and reflected in your stats. I can't imagine that they've figured out a way to have a different set of abs for different groups of monsters. From my gaming experience; yes it is and I can vouch for dontcheat. If you want to test it your self go to ice and comp a frozen mist and see if it will freeze you (it wont) then let another frozen mist spawn after you already used comp. You will notice that the second frozen mist has the ability to freeze you while the first one that you "comped" cannot. This in theory should apply to abs also, but it is very difficult to test. Yeah I used to go for a 1000 hp rest mp build but I just swapped to about ~800 hp and rest mp with over 1000mp now. I have been using this for over a week now and just did 116-117.5 with no problems in ft2. I believe I'm going to try base hp and full spirit build soon. I do not suggest you do that because I think we should have enough strengh to get about +15xx weigh with which we can collect mana and sell for some gold. Do not listen to me if you are already billionaire. As a mech you can go to any exp map with only 20 pots of each (as Gogg does I believe ) and just loot drops. My mech loots or has about 3xx-5xx mana on him at all times, but I don't sell mana anymore because it just weighs me down and when it sells I don't have enough to go exp. Also my mech has 262 str, 299 mp and 126 health atm and can carry exactly 1500. I can provide an SS if you don't believe me. I also have 862 hp and 1001 mp exactly and have no troubles what so ever in md3, ft1, ft2, and et2 even when I play solo. I am still planning on going full spirit build and I will tell you guys how it works out later. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pleiades 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2011 Since mana pots are so plentiful on this server, what is the benefit of going with a spirit build? I have an ms enigma as my sheltom and have spirit around 120. I've tried the base armor strength build with max HP and right now, i'm using a max strength build with base HP because I mistakenly thought that the power mech build had promise. But I do get a small ABS lift with max strength, and i do use lvl 10 GS to fight 1-on-1 from time to time, as the attack with my hammer is slightly better than spark LOL. But the original question is, why put more than 120 into spirit? So you can spam a skill without using mana pots? What is the advantage of that? A mech using spark usually can't pick up all the mana pots on the ground... at some point, more than 400 mana is a waste of weight, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
koleo 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2011 Since mana pots are so plentiful on this server, what is the benefit of going with a spirit build? I have an ms enigma as my sheltom and have spirit around 120. I've tried the base armor strength build with max HP and right now, i'm using a max strength build with base HP because I mistakenly thought that the power mech build had promise. But I do get a small ABS lift with max strength, and i do use lvl 10 GS to fight 1-on-1 from time to time, as the attack with my hammer is slightly better than spark LOL. But the original question is, why put more than 120 into spirit? So you can spam a skill without using mana pots? What is the advantage of that? A mech using spark usually can't pick up all the mana pots on the ground... at some point, more than 400 mana is a waste of weight, right? To be lazy. In fact I am typing this as I am exping. What is the point in having more abs if I don't need it. What's the point in having more hp if I don't need it. With so much mp/stm I just ctrl+click a player or shift +click a mob and then watch videos and troll forums. This would be much more difficult if I had to alt+tab ever 30 seconds instead of every minute or more. Also this is way more efficient. If I go hunting then I kill 3-5 at once with spark instead of weak damage with 2h weapon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pleiades 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2011 Great answer! Maybe I will give it a try since extra strength and lvl 10 GS is like hitting the mobs with a wet noodle. Now I can free up my time when I'm so tired of spamming spark to get that special feeling of 1% every 10 minutes of staring at the screen. Omg, does it suck like this for everyone? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
koleo 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2011 Great answer! Maybe I will give it a try since extra strength and lvl 10 GS is like hitting the mobs with a wet noodle. Now I can free up my time when I'm so tired of spamming spark to get that special feeling of 1% every 10 minutes of staring at the screen. Omg, does it suck like this for everyone? Yup that's why I exp and go on forums or watch youtube shits haha. Getting slow at high 11x now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pleiades 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2011 I'm only 114, and due to new job, I don't get to play very often... so i think i'll make a build change... time to find a cheap purple crystal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akarivn 0 Report post Posted February 2, 2011 @Koleo: I was just kidding you because I've gone full spirit before you mentioned it. At lvl 115, I have +1400 MP. HP is about 700 and ABS when buffed is roughly 260. Thanks God, I do not need more than 10 pots of each kind when I set out for experience. : 8) ;D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gogg 3 Report post Posted February 2, 2011 I need more HP, but no mana, so yea, high spr ftl Adjust your build in the way it fits better to your playing style Share this post Link to post Share on other sites