Easter Egg drop rate change?

[lhyamauti 56]

5 minutes ago, Wartale said:

You must be joking, is people really selling them to NPC? If you want to make a case be sure you make it legit else you lost your credibility.

Anyway, I think I have hear enough, the change is there to stay as we see that is fit and so far none of you have been able to build a compelling case to make us change our decision beside trying to make it about your own good.

 

 

 

well, I've spent what really happens on the server, most of the players are selling on the NPC, because they put it in the store today, nobody will buy because everyone is picking up these items from the Easter eggs. I've spent the values selling on the NPC and calculations doing gold on CT3, so most players are without credibility, just like me.

 

But I respect your vision and your decision, and ball forward.

 

Hugs.

[rick91 4]

6 hours ago, Wartale said:

Hi there,

After received multiple report from users advised that the drop rate is too high which will ruin the market, we have reduced the drop rate of the Easter Egg .

 

Regards,

 

Wartale

 

You said that after received a multiple report from users, but in this topic a lot of user considerated that the changes made wasnt good for all the community, where are that users reporting the drop is too high? We just see a lot of people considering the event was good before themaintenance and you aren't listening them. with all the respect. 

[FogoDeBomba 10]

It's the only way for me not to spend the whole weekend hunting for eggs. :v
I understand the frustration of some, not all can hunt eggs, because they are too busy doing something else or upando. Anyway, the change was so radical that it made moon hunter a more consistent option. I hope they do not reduce that too. Luckily there are other ways to make gold.

[mcslug2 211]

u cant compare a hunt ct3 (that needs a high lvl char) to an event that can be done for a lvl 90 char, the way the event was before was really ridiculous, i went to iron core hs and sometimes i had 20 eggs on the ground to pick, thats kinda too high drop rate.

 

i think event now is ok u can made a good(not the best gold in the world) gold while leveling, if u want make more money u can do other things like go ct3 or go to sl hunt

[biduerj 0]

11 hours ago, keynen said:

+1. only this

[wallas 5]

6 hours ago, lhyamauti said:

 

 

well, I've spent what really happens on the server, most of the players are selling on the NPC, because they put it in the store today, nobody will buy because everyone is picking up these items from the Easter eggs. I've spent the values selling on the NPC and calculations doing gold on CT3, so most players are without credibility, just like me.

 

But I respect your vision and your decision, and ball forward.

 

Hugs.

 

Its all true, i love wartale and the way it works. But recently i'm feeling different about how the staff are making decisions, does sand.. still in the staff? i'm afraid if there is someone making decisions or you guys are just busy with so muck work,  btw i hope the decisions do not compromise the server.

Edited March 24, 2018 by wallas

[BBuddy~ 203]

7 hours ago, Wartale said:

1. Some of you have said the event was drop the same back in the old time, that could be true however, it doesn't mean we will keep it. We constantly make changes to game to see where it fit.

2. Some of you said the drop rate is bad now. It is compare to yesterday but it is not terrible. I just done the test myself 30 minutes ago,played as an Archer in IC spawn on the left server A with Eye.

• I got 15 eggs in 30 minutes
• Open them gave me:
  • 1 Purple Skill crystal
  • 20 Mana
  • 2 Saphia
  • 3 Mana Aura
  • 1 Fireworks
  • 5 Reset Skill/Stat Stone
  • 1 Eternal Life

How is that good? I can go SoD and make 15kk in 20 minutes, while in an ‘event’ I can get 5kk.

[BBuddy~ 203]

2 hours ago, mcslug2 said:

u cant compare a hunt ct3 (that needs a high lvl char) to an event that can be done for a lvl 90 char, the way the event was before was really ridiculous, i went to iron core hs and sometimes i had 20 eggs on the ground to pick, thats kinda too high drop rate.

 

i think event now is ok u can made a good(not the best gold in the world) gold while leveling, if u want make more money u can do other things like go ct3 or go to sl hunt

So now a level 90 char can go Iron Core? I did not know that!

[BBuddy~ 203]

6 hours ago, Wartale said:

You must be joking, is people really selling them to NPC? If you want to make a case be sure you make it legit else you lost your credibility.

Anyway, I think I have hear enough, the change is there to stay as we see that is fit and so far none of you have been able to build a compelling case to make us change our decision beside trying to make it about your own good.

 

@Wartale Let's make an honest analysis about the event:

1 - I agree that the drop rate of the eggs was high in the first place. Also, I found it weird that every single Bunny dropped 2 or 3 eggs, and I immediatly said "They are going to nerf this", which, as we can see, you did, which is not wrong.

 

2 - No, he is not joking, we are indeed selling stuff on NPC (I myself kept some reset stones for future use, since it's better not to spend anything on it, than buying it from Event Girl when I happen to need it). The drop rate of reset stones is high, and nobody will be even able to stock everything up, even after the event nerf. I have all 5 pages of my Warehouse taken by stocked up items, and I don't think it would be wise to place other reset stones in mules, since I'll never use that amount of reset stones in my whole life.

 

3 - If the whole purpose of this event is not to make gold (which, after the nerf, really isn't), and it's intended, like you said, to allow players to get premium items without spending coins, why can't we get the premium items you said we were able to get in first place, back in the event description? Nobody managed to get any Caravan Crystals, Aging Stones, Integrity Crystals (except for the 30 minute Int. Crystal), Gravity Stones (same as Int. Crystal), Lucky Boxes... (Also, now that I see it, you even changed the event description, since everyone knows we can't get any Caravans nor Aging stones). The Saphia and Force drops are good, I can't deny that, but you said that you tested it for half an hour and did not get any forces, which is the best drop possible in this event. Can't we actually get the good premium items? The ones we will use or sell in personal shops?

 

4 - If you think the drop rate was too high (and it was all about the drop rate that got everyone worried about, both staff and players), why isn't the event exactly as the description says? "Every map is spread with easter eggs lying on the floor, rooftops, bushes hidden in places you could only ever imagine. You must look carefully for them everywhere and then you can opt to eat them to see what toast is inside or you can sell them to other people." That would be way more fun and different, because no one would be even complaining that the drop rate from the Bunny is either high or low. The "Prison Key"-ish event would be really interesting and different, less eggs would be caught, the "exchange rates" (let's call it like this, or maybe "egg eating rates") could be higher, so that people who don't actually want to try their luck by opening the eggs can sell it to the ones who do.

 

5.1 - Selling eggs in Personal Shops is not interesting at all. Why would anyone buy an egg for, let's say, 500k, if you can get a Talent Reset stone, which only Knights use, or 10 MP. You said you got 15 eggs in half an hour, if someone buys them, he/she would spend 7,5kk to get random stuff (like Talent Reset Stone, for example). The stone I got the most was the Agility one. I am a Fighter myself, I'd only use it if I change my Bracelets, which may happen in 6 months, maybe? Or even the Spirit Stone, which I used only once because I got a T-Sheltom, so if I'm not trading my Boss Set anymore, I won't ever need to use it, and it will be stocked up for life.

 

5.2 - Looking on the other side, the side of the seller, the person will make 7,5kk in half an hour, which is not a good deal either. As you mentioned, you got that amount of eggs in Iron Core, the map which spawns the most mobs in a single spawn in the whole Wartale Continent, a 132+ map. I'd risk to say any 132+ character can score that in SoD (except Mechanicians, maybe). If you are willing to open the eggs and get the items it hatches, you won't get much more than those 7,5kk mentioned before, since everyone has the items you got, so you will not be able to sell it. The only item that is worth something is the Saphia, since it will be used everytime someone ages an item, which is quite often, and is worth around 6~7kk, but it will only be worth that amount after some time after the event, since, as I said, everyone has it.

 

To sum up, my opinion is that the drop rate was indeed too high, making that amount of gold in such short time is non-sense, but the "Egg eating rates" are too low for such drop rate (I'm not saying the drop rate is bad nor good as it is now). The premium items we get from the event are dispensable after the first hour you spend hunting, and will be thrown in the NPC (don't be surprised by that, that's just how things work). I honestly think that the event should work like it's description says, a "The Prison Key" or "Elysium Amulets"-ish event would be much cooler. I'd be really excited by an event that is so different in it's essence: a player not needing to kill anything to get rewards. All events (except for GM Events, like Hide'n'Seek, Climb, Quiz, etc) work the exact same way: Kill something, get it's drops and exchange it for something more valuable. Easter event could have broken this monotony, but you chose a different path (again, I'm not saying it's a bad path, it's just the one you chose). I'd love to see everyone climbing in Ricarten to get the egg that is on top of the Blacksmith's house, or inside the Wolverine Cage.

[- D E A T H S T R O K E - 1,762]

This topic is useless, the only thing i could see here is a tug o war between players which are annoyed by the nerf vs players that agree with the nerf,as a matter of fact,i  think many players here doesn't see the game as a whole,rather than think about theirselves. IDK the reason, maybe because you want to farm 500,000,000 in gold in a afternoon, maybe because you don't want to see someone farming gold as much as you do in sod/ct3, maybe beucause you are a donater and you want to see the gold bar price getting lower,or maybe you are already full and you don't want to see players getting rich extremely fast, regardless of the reason or your opnion, this is not the first easter event.

 

Lets go back on time, 2015 to be sure, before the easter event, gold bar was being sold for 1000-1050 coins, after the event, gold bar was being sold for around 700 coins, and after this, i haven't seen gold bar price at 1kc since then.

the point is, the crises was so insane that adms needed to do many things to fix, as far as i remember, it was when the age price was increased a lot, it was when coins sacks were add to bosses, staff was selling sheep hats at personal shop for 40kk to reduce the amount of gold on server, and i don't know if it is true, but, someone told me that adms were buying gold bar for coins aswell.

Now, in 2018, we would see something like this if it did not get nerf, i managed to do 2 gold bars in around 12 hours of gameplay in Iron core HS,also, i managed to do 8% in my priest 148 and in my shaman 147, that was insane,and anyone could farm that amount of gold in a weak map.

At the end of event, gold bar would be at 500 coins or less, and we, free players, would be doomed, cuz it would be way harder to farm coins ( and probably complain on forum).

 

 

 

@BBuddy~1. premium items are not meant to be sold on NPC, that is the point, but i agree with you, looking for eggs around the maps seems to be way better

2. You might do 15kk/ sod, but 12x - can't, the event was killed for 13x+, but 12x- could still farm eggs while level uping, and sell premium items, such as saphia,mana down, at personal shop, rather than selling them on NPC.

3. Age stone could be added, but not this year, many players already have tons of eggs on mules,i remember when xmass was changed with the event already ongoing,before you would be able to get many gifts from mobs but prizes were quite bad, them they removed gifts and add socks with low drop chance, but improved the prizes, some players got really rich because they had many gifts on mules before the update.

 

 

 

Edited March 24, 2018 by - D E A T H S T R O K E -

[LikeG6 112]

1 hour ago, - D E A T H S T R O K E - said:

 

@LikeG6 1. premium items are not meant to be sold on NPC, that is the point, but i agree with you, looking for eggs around the maps seems to be way better

2. You might do 15kk/ sod, but 12x - can't, the event was killed for 13x+, but 12x- could still farm eggs while level uping, and sell premium items, such as saphia,mana down, at personal shop, rather than selling them on NPC.

3. Age stone could be added, but not this year, many players already have tons of eggs on mules,i remember when xmass was changed with the event already ongoing,before you would be able to get many gifts from mobs but prizes were quite bad, them they removed gifts and add socks with low drop chance, but improved the prizes, some players got really rich because they had many gifts on mules before the update.

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what i said? 

[- D E A T H S T R O K E - 1,762]

3 hours ago, LikeG6 said:

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what i said? 

Ups, not you hahaha

[marce2125 107]

4 hours ago, - D E A T H S T R O K E - said:

This topic is useless, the only thing i could see here is a tug o war between players which are annoyed by the nerf vs players that agree with the nerf,as a matter of fact,i  think many players here doesn't see the game as a whole,rather than think about theirselves. IDK the reason, maybe because you want to farm 500,000,000 in gold in a afternoon, maybe because you don't want to see someone farming gold as much as you do in sod/ct3, maybe beucause you are a donater and you want to see the gold bar price getting lower,or maybe you are already full and you don't want to see players getting rich extremely fast, regardless of the reason or your opnion, this is not the first easter event.

 

Lets go back on time, 2015 to be sure, before the easter event, gold bar was being sold for 1000-1050 coins, after the event, gold bar was being sold for around 700 coins, and after this, i haven't seen gold bar price at 1kc since then.

the point is, the crises was so insane that adms needed to do many things to fix, as far as i remember, it was when the age price was increased a lot, it was when coins sacks were add to bosses, staff was selling sheep hats at personal shop for 40kk to reduce the amount of gold on server, and i don't know if it is true, but, someone told me that adms were buying gold bar for coins aswell.

Now, in 2018, we would see something like this if it did not get nerf, i managed to do 2 gold bars in around 12 hours of gameplay in Iron core HS,also, i managed to do 8% in my priest 148 and in my shaman 147, that was insane,and anyone could farm that amount of gold in a weak map.

At the end of event, gold bar would be at 500 coins or less, and we, free players, would be doomed, cuz it would be way harder to farm coins ( and probably complain on forum).

 

^This!!!.

[BBuddy~ 203]

@- D E A T H S T R O K E - I understand your point of view, and I agree with numbers 2 and 3, but i don't totally agree with your opinion in 1. Considering that there are too many premium items of the same type (Reset Stones), it is pretty hard not to sell them after someone has gathered over 50 (or more) of them. That's why people are selling it, and so am I.

[Amethyst 62]

Unless the reset stones can be stacked, I am not keeping them either. How often do you reset your stat and skills? I'd rather go to the event girl when I need to buy one. They take up so much spaces. 

 

Eggs are dropped at a worse rate today compared to the previous two days of event. At the same spawn and I have two accounts opened on two subs and I get less eggs than yesterday with just one account. 

Edited March 24, 2018 by Amethyst

[Wartale 7,375]

29 minutes ago, BBuddy~ said:

@- D E A T H S T R O K E - I understand your point of view, and I agree with numbers 2 and 3, but i don't totally agree with your opinion in 1. Considering that there are too many premium items of the same type (Reset Stones), it is pretty hard not to sell them after someone has gathered over 50 (or more) of them. That's why people are selling it, and so am I.

You are keep missing the point, no one talking about the reset stones. You might want to read my reply and quote again

https://wartale.com/forums/topic/90053-easter-egg-drop-rate-change/?page=2&tab=comments#comment-549945

 

FYI to all: The drop rate was 100% which mean 1 Bunny = 1 egg + extra from Eye. Also Egg from the floor.

[idaneth 0]

2 minutes ago, Wartale said:

You are keep missing the point, no one talking about the reset stones. You might want to read my reply and quote again

https://wartale.com/forums/topic/90053-easter-egg-drop-rate-change/?page=2&tab=comments#comment-549945

 

FYI to all: The drop rate was 100% which mean 1 Bunny = 1 egg + extra from Eye. Also Egg from the floor.

 

But now going to hunt eggs dont worts, yesterday i was like 8-9 hours and just did 30kk of gold and didn't get a good premium item.

[mcslug2 211]

10 hours ago, BBuddy~ said:

So now a level 90 char can go Iron Core? I did not know that!

 

9x char can go to ds hs or s1 hs and make the same ammount that u in iron core

[Cj 5]

you're right the event was very easy in the beginning, could even stay the same way if you put new items to fall or that luck box .

[Amethyst 62]

2 hours ago, Wartale said:

You are keep missing the point, no one talking about the reset stones. You might want to read my reply and quote again

https://wartale.com/forums/topic/90053-easter-egg-drop-rate-change/?page=2&tab=comments#comment-549945

 

FYI to all: The drop rate was 100% which mean 1 Bunny = 1 egg + extra from Eye. Also Egg from the floor.

 

If there are not that many reset stones when you open eggs, tbh I don't think many people will participate in the event. These reset stones are gold maker and compensate for your time playing the event because you do not get plenty of other premium items or forces. I open 4 inventory pages full of eggs and I get 5 sol forces, 2 oredo forces and to get that 4 full pages I was playing approx. 7 hours. 7 hours in CT3 or ET3 I make about 400kk gold not including all the sheltoms. 

[Wartale 7,375]

Every one here seem to misunderstanding the point of the event which causing a lot of argument. So let us make it clear again

1. The event is designed to give every one easy access to premium items
2. Although you can make some decent gold from it, it is actually not a part of the event, that is what you have decided to do on your own
3. The event also is not a compensation for time that you are playing as well. Event is on all maps which mean you can play your game as normal and enjoy extra fun from it
4. The current drop rate give a decent amount of drop which also return a good amount of premium item for you to use at your choice as well.

2nd test has been conducted today with a Priestess in IC HS on the right. Eye was used and this is tally after 30 minutes

• 30 eggs
• Result in:
  • 2 SP Down
  • 1 Vampire Teeth
  • 2 Saphia
  • 2 Mana Aura
  • 2 Eternal Life
  • 3 Purple Skill Cryrstal
  • 10 Reset Stone
  • 67 Mana Potion
  • 1 Fireworks

[idaneth 0]

3 hours ago, Wartale said:

Every one here seem to misunderstanding the point of the event which causing a lot of argument. So let us make it clear again

1. The event is designed to give every one easy access to premium items
2. Although you can make some decent gold from it, it is actually not a part of the event, that is what you have decided to do on your own
3. The event also is not a compensation for time that you are playing as well. Event is on all maps which mean you can play your game as normal and enjoy extra fun from it
4. The current drop rate give a decent amount of drop which also return a good amount of premium item for you to use at your choice as well.

2nd test has been conducted today with a Priestess in IC HS on the right. Eye was used and this is tally after 30 minutes

• 30 eggs
• Result in:
  • 2 SP Down
  • 1 Vampire Teeth
  • 2 Saphia
  • 2 Mana Aura
  • 2 Eternal Life
  • 3 Purple Skill Cryrstal
  • 10 Reset Stone
  • 67 Mana Potion
  • 1 Fireworks

 

You can't do DI Quest and enjoy the event, just saying admin. The quest disable the bunnie's drop

[BBuddy~ 203]

On 24/03/2018 at 6:51 PM, Wartale said:

You are keep missing the point, no one talking about the reset stones. You might want to read my reply and quote again

https://wartale.com/forums/topic/90053-easter-egg-drop-rate-change/?page=2&tab=comments#comment-549945

 

FYI to all: The drop rate was 100% which mean 1 Bunny = 1 egg + extra from Eye. Also Egg from the floor.

You keep missing the point. The premium item that is mostly aquired in this event are the Reset Stones, and that's what I said. You might want to read my reply and quote again too, since I said the nerf on egg drop was a good thing.

[BBuddy~ 203]

On 24/03/2018 at 6:22 PM, Amethyst said:

Unless the reset stones can be stacked, I am not keeping them either. How often do you reset your stat and skills? I'd rather go to the event girl when I need to buy one. They take up so much spaces. 

 

Eggs are dropped at a worse rate today compared to the previous two days of event. At the same spawn and I have two accounts opened on two subs and I get less eggs than yesterday with just one account. 

Exactly my point.