auto click

[andrefly2 4]

Hi, I saw that GM told anything about "auto play " to loot gold, this is when someone is afking right? is agaisnt server rules in this case, or if use auto click only to get itens/gold? I had this doubt. thanks 

[Wartale 7,375]

Hi there,

 

AFK while playing is not allowed.

 

Regards,

Wartale

[Freppe 80]

To clarify auto looting gold/items with an autoclicker while at your computer is allowed 

[Tampered Knight 8]

How does everyone setup their autoclicker to do that? I tried with default settings and it doesn't work..

[Freppe 80]

35 minutes ago, Tampered Knight said:

How does everyone setup their autoclicker to do that? I tried with default settings and it doesn't work..

You mean autoclicking to loot? Just set it up as left click and then hold "A" ingame to see the loot and loot all the gold for example 

[danyew 5]

wait what? everyone uses an autoclicker in this game? 

[Wartale 7,375]

We are allowing our users to use auto click because:

• Avoid injury to the finger :)
• Avoid damaging their mouse

However, you need to be sure you are in front of your screen and be able to response to anyone talking to you in game.

 

NOTE: Although auto click is allowed, auto potting is not so please make sure you are not using any illegal software for that purpose.

[Tampered Knight 8]

10 hours ago, xunahyo said:

Lol you don't wana put in effort to do research, and you want someone to just record a video and show it to you..? xD

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Isn't asking here part of that research, and I didn't say anything about "wanting someone to just record a video and show it to me" If you're an expert, why not share your knowledge with everyone or direct where to find that info? Isn't that what forums is for?

 

[difyca 13]

well ... several times I have noticed players staying afk and not replying to messages, whether through normal chat, chat party, or chat via private message ..
This becomes disheartening, because in the last event xp, for example, I could see that players who try to play hostilely, end up being harmed, by players who only want to have evolution in their character in an "easy" way, leaving the same afk and with some kind of BOT or something of the genre.

 

In XP event I noticed in particular in the maps:
AD3 - NO 2ND HELLSPAWN TURNING LEFT FROM THE MAP
IRON CORE - IN THE HELLSPAWN, RIGHT, BE THE FIRST RIGHT, WHICH WE CALL OF THE STAIRCASE, OR BE THE NEXT THAT YOU SHOULD WALK AND ON THE RAMP UP AND TURN RIGHT
SECRET LABORATORY - IN THE MAIN HS, WHERE PLAYERS THAT ARE DONORS OF "long range" characters, if they use the trick, which is to use the "caravan" to block the character's walking action, thus preventing the character from approaching of the tanker, thus reducing the deaths of the characters, and thus facilitating the use of tools, which at first I believe to be unlawful, according to the rules of the game I had read while accepting, before creating my account.

Now, I ask, how to proceed in these cases? Because the auto-click is authorized, to avoid what has already been mentioned by ADMIN, injuries to the fingers and break of the mouse for example and unauthorized, for bot practice

 

 

[Wartale 7,375]

@difyca Please don't quote our post in other language in the future as I don't want people think that we can speak other language. Thank you!

 

Please feel free to read server's rule and report guide in report section to know how to report.

[difyca 13]

4 minutes ago, Wartale said:

@difyca Please don't quote our post in other language in the future as I don't want people think that we can speak other language. Thank you!

 

Please feel free to read server's rule and report guide in report section to know how to report.

Ok.

[- D E A T H S T R O K E - 1,760]

On 10/05/2018 at 9:26 PM, Wartale said:

We are allowing our users to use auto click because:

• Avoid injury to the finger :)
• Avoid damaging their mouse

However, you need to be sure you are in front of your screen and be able to response to anyone talking to you in game.

 

NOTE: Although auto click is allowed, auto potting is not so please make sure you are not using any illegal software for that purpose.

right,but what i can't understand is why does the staff doesn't add ways to auto attack in the game itself instead of allowing those kind of software,actually the opposite was done,it's being harder to play w/out ....

For EG, Before we could auto regen with priest and alt tab to switch to another char, but we can't do it anymore, anyway, you could use VM + mouse recorder to do it ???????before you could shift COMP on mobs,you cant do it anymore,but you still could use AUTO click for that???????? it really Doesn't make any sense.

why doesn't the staff enable SHIFT attack on skills such as stone spike/dias etc etc (even though for a period of time, like 30 sec) and disable auto click from game? Many players use auto click /macro ,whatever, and exploit it, at HG we see tons of AFK players, we could see players auto clicking for drop boss items,we could see a player is 5 chars with full Auto click,macro, whatever( + abusing Caravan bug)....

but at this point of the game, using auto click is almost a Rule, and that really sucks......

it would be simpler if the game itself had those kind of stuff, you guys would also  have more control over the game ( instead of a GM looking for AFk players in spawns it would be simpler to see who is using those software).

in my opinion it doesn't make sense.

[danyew 5]

I understand Wartale, but I agree with Deathstroke. It's a bit silly to check on afk-leveling characters due to how easy it is to exploit it (just keep the PT client window up). I'd say the difference between afk leveling and autoclick leveling is negligible as both don't require any attention to play the game, the latter just makes you keep an eye on your computer/PT periodically.

All that said, I don't expect a big change. This is the way PT has been for ages.

Edited May 14, 2018 by danyew
took out unnecessary wording/info

[cartmansucks 51]

21 hours ago, - D E A T H S T R O K E - said:

right,but what i can't understand is why does the staff doesn't add ways to auto attack in the game itself instead of allowing those kind of software,actually the opposite was done,it's being harder to play w/out ....

For EG, Before we could auto regen with priest and alt tab to switch to another char, but we can't do it anymore, anyway, you could use VM + mouse recorder to do it ???????before you could shift COMP on mobs,you cant do it anymore,but you still could use AUTO click for that???????? it really Doesn't make any sense.

why doesn't the staff enable SHIFT attack on skills such as stone spike/dias etc etc (even though for a period of time, like 30 sec) and disable auto click from game? Many players use auto click /macro ,whatever, and exploit it, at HG we see tons of AFK players, we could see players auto clicking for drop boss items,we could see a player is 5 chars with full Auto click,macro, whatever( + abusing Caravan bug)....

but at this point of the game, using auto click is almost a Rule, and that really sucks......

it would be simpler if the game itself had those kind of stuff, you guys would also  have more control over the game ( instead of a GM looking for AFk players in spawns it would be simpler to see who is using those software).

in my opinion it doesn't make sense.

I agree.
It is nice to know Wartale is concerned about players health but the exploitation of those kind of software is a major problem in Wartale, maybe the bigest one.
The exploitation of those kind of software makes possible: stay afk in HG; almost own party exping (since a player is able play as Tanker + killer +killer +killer+killer); bot exping, to loot a massive amout of gold (ct3); and so on...

There are two serious consequences of all that exploitation.

1: Players that doesn't own machines able to run several accs at the same time/ new players give up playing as soon as they notice the great disadvantage they are when related to ppl that can to do that. The new player lose the perspective of reaching a high lvl, they also lose the perspective to get nice itens. (a 12x char by itself take weeks to buy a single Val ring depending of how much hours per day are available to play).

2: The interaction between players, a factor so enhanced by Wartale, gets seriously harmed, since one or two players can do effectively what 6 players do when hunting and exping. The interaction in HG gets harmed too since lots of players keep their afk accs in a safe spot just to get their rewards without really taking part of the event.
Well... the interaction between players gets empaired by so much more, but i guess those softwares contributes only in that cases i mentioned.

In a few words, allow softwares such as auto clickers and VM to influence the client brings more disadvantages than advantages to the game as a whole.

 

[Tampered Knight 8]

Actually, I thought auto clickers wasn't allowed due to:
 

Cheating - Do not make use of anything illegal to gain advantages

You must not use any unauthorized third party software that directly or indirectly interferes with the intended gameplay. To this extent, you may not make use of any automated software, including but not limited to bots, auto-clickers and related software. 
You must not modify any part of the Wartale client in order to gain advantages. 
Any unauthorized actions that modify, damage, cause downtime, attack or otherwise alter the server are not allowed and will result in a permanent ban.

Edited May 14, 2018 by Tampered Knight

[Lyseria 1,823]

11 minutes ago, cartmansucks said:

The interaction in HG gets harmed too since lots of players keep their afk accs in a safe spot just to get their rewards without really taking part of the event.

 

I know that you're talking about the abuse of the accounts in HG, but be in mind that is impossible you come up with a lvl 120 meele char and face the Lone Prince.

 

Wartale posted it...

 

https://wartale.com/forums/topic/90427-hells-gate/?do=findComment&comment=553742

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Hi there,

 

First of all, thanks for taking time to make this suggestion. However, implement this would be unfair for some people. Not everyone who participates in HG can actually fight because of their level and items so they have to stand and watch.

 

Making HG harder is also not a solution as it will make HG become place for high level gamer.

 

In regard to AFK die and health the boss, if they do attack the boss they will die as well because of low level and item.

 

We will consider something else to prevent user from login multiple accounts to abuse HG's reward system.

 

Regards,

 

Wartale

 

[cartmansucks 51]

Yeah, thats the point! The problem is the abuse of the softwares, wich happens too often, sadly....

[danyew 5]

I agree with all the posters pretty much, confirming this is beating a dead horse issue.

I will say playing this game casually since 04 without ever using an autoclicker means there is loads of maps that I still have never touched due to the nature of the games leveling. I don't think I've reached 12x on any server that wasn't very high rate. Wartale is pretty polished (combat numbers, no very buggy UI, more things work than don't) compared to many private and official servers I've played in the past so I am enjoying this server quite a bit. 

I do think its funny and wonder what is the point in playing if you buy a new character at 12x/13x to skip boring leveling phase, to then leech/buy/autoclick a service to ease leveling, then maybe getting bored along the way to 14x,15x and begin to wonder where the new content is!? 
I might be wrong on this thought and if someone can answer this please feel free to.

[Amethyst 62]

6 hours ago, danyew said:

I agree with all the posters pretty much, confirming this is beating a dead horse issue.

I will say playing this game casually since 04 without ever using an autoclicker means there is loads of maps that I still have never touched due to the nature of the games leveling. I don't think I've reached 12x on any server that wasn't very high rate. Wartale is pretty polished (combat numbers, no very buggy UI, more things work than don't) compared to many private and official servers I've played in the past so I am enjoying this server quite a bit. 

I do think its funny and wonder what is the point in playing if you buy a new character at 12x/13x to skip boring leveling phase, to then leech/buy/autoclick a service to ease leveling, then maybe getting bored along the way to 14x,15x and begin to wonder where the new content is!? 
I might be wrong on this thought and if someone can answer this please feel free to.

 

I think it depends on the person. The majority of the time you play this game is to grind experience, and you must reach a certain level before you can really enjoy the game. Game is just like other things in life, it will cost you time or money. Some people don't have much time playing and without assistance they will never get to high level. I only have one or two hours at most everyday including weekends to play due to work, so it will take me years to get to 14x. I have never wanted to be a top player, just want a character that is high level enough so I can at least go to the highest map and spend some quality time in the game whenever I can play with my clanmates and friends without having to grind for hours. It is worth every penny :) 

[danyew 5]

39 minutes ago, Amethyst said:

 

I think it depends on the person. The majority of the time you play this game is to grind experience, and you must reach a certain level before you can really enjoy the game. Game is just like other things in life, it will cost you time or money. Some people don't have much time playing and without assistance they will never get to high level. I only have one or two hours at most everyday including weekends to play due to work, so it will take me years to get to 14x. I have never wanted to be a top player, just want a character that is high level enough so I can at least go to the highest map and spend some quality time in the game whenever I can play with my clanmates and friends without having to grind for hours. It is worth every penny :) 

100% understood, thanks for the insight. I suppose I never valued the the highest maps the same I guess, I always figured if you are with your buds it doesn't matter if you are level 40 or 130.  May I ask what level do you reach when you begin to really enjoy the game in your opinion?

Edited May 15, 2018 by danyew

[Amethyst 62]

I wish it was as you said "if you are with your buds it doesn't matter if you are level 40 or 130", it used to be like that for me years ago when I was playing official server. When the server was open, the rate was x1 and we all started playing at the same time (not to mention I was still a highschooler so time was not an issue) so I had friends since level 1. If you used to play official server or any low rate server, you probably remember times which we partied to do quests or train. I was not afraid of grinding because grinding back then was really fun when I had friends that I always went with. This is not the case for Wartale, unfortunately. Here the rate is high thus if you don't spend much time, you will fall behind your friends's progress. My clan has two people that are real life friends, though they started playing at the same time, one is 142 now and the other is still 135 because he only has two hours a day for the game. 

 

My first character at Wartale was archer and it was unplayable for me because the monsters at the exp maps were strong and it took me two months to get to 120. That was where I decided to buy exp service for it because I figured out it would take me much longer like a year to get to 14x with that rate. It is very hard, at Wartale, if not impossible to find party when you are below 132. It is just the nature of an old server. At 132, you can start doing DIQs to level up and do some hunting if you would like to. Leveling from 128-132 is really a painful process if you play alone and thus I prefer to skipping this if possible.