Development [Archer]

[QMan 0]

i mean my highlight with red color is a point

point to discuss and ask game developer, why item 1 hand javelin and 2 hand bow almost not differrence dmg...

[Easy4me2own 0]

In UPT archer has a way harder time killing other due the high amount of block on shields.

And since bows dont have any block, u almost instandly die there.

And dont even bother pvping a atalanta there, due the range advantgae u lose, my archer 140 would lose vs 130 ata.

 

Sure we have 1 handed bow, but phoenix shot animation is rly slow on it, thus not  helping in pvp.

Pikes however can 1 hit k.o you with their 1 handed scythe

 

So dont get me started when you claim upt archers are fine & balanced

[arcx 0]

No sarcasm, offense or jokes intended, I think idanqwe just wants some reassuring words from Wartale. "Yes, I'll improve it" or "Yes, I know" or something like that. It helps to know that changes are coming rather than not knowing - helps with our patience. 

 

 

 

IMO, add a little more evasion - it's the only effective defensive stat we have against Block, Defense, etc. The other popular classes in BC have plenty of Block, and it works very well. Since archers don't have Block, Evade is the next best thing (which works quite similarly, in actuality).

 

 

 

 

[Gogg 3]

Atas got huge advantage, pikes too... nothing about archers~

 

So dont get me started when you claim upt archers are fine & balanced

Show me one single time that was said in this topic before this reply and I delete my game/forum acc right now

[Easy4me2own 0]

upt archers are fine & balanced

 

[Guest TFSE]

oh snap.

[idanqwe 0]

No sarcasm, offense or jokes intended, I think idanqwe just wants some reassuring words from Wartale. "Yes, I'll improve it" or "Yes, I know" or something like that. It helps to know that changes are coming rather than not knowing - helps with our patience. 

 

 

 

IMO, add a little more evasion - it's the only effective defensive stat we have against Block, Defense, etc. The other popular classes in BC have plenty of Block, and it works very well. Since archers don't have Block, Evade is the next best thing (which works quite similarly, in actuality).

yup, a message from Wartale would be nice.

[Francisco22 0]

what abt add mix or age in thales armor? it would be great for pure as n ata.

[Gogg 3]

Atas don't need anything

[SkyX 0]

Atas got huge advantage, pikes too... nothing about archers~

 

So dont get me started when you claim upt archers are fine & balanced

Show me one single time that was said in this topic before this reply and I delete my game/forum acc right now

upt archers are fine & balanced

 

this topic is now about Gogg living up to his words.

[Gogg 3]

Nice try

[idanqwe 0]

any serious comment?

[idanqwe 0]

progirl(124) wanted to quit and sell his archer(I made him stay),

Artier(121) is selling all his items and then character,

_Nancy_(126) is selling his archer,

 

erm, Wartale? :-X

[Odoaker 0]

 

 

DMT traded his archer, Legolas trade his archer, Artier wanna trade his..

Wartale, we need an adjust please.

 

This is bullshit k.

I simply said I don't wanna play Archer.

I'd never trade, I don't wanna see Viets/BR's using the name "Artier" while having their childish racist wars in BC kk.

 

Never say never?

Have fun with your knight tho

[Artier 0]

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DMT traded his archer, Legolas trade his archer, Artier wanna trade his..

Wartale, we need an adjust please.

 

This is bullshit k.

I simply said I don't wanna play Archer.

I'd never trade, I don't wanna see Viets/BR's using the name "Artier" while having their childish racist wars in BC kk.

 

Never say never?

Have fun with your knight tho

 

Yeah I'm a hypocrite. LOL

Can you blame me though, Archer's a joke lol.

[Odoaker 0]

No blaming, archers suck big time

 

 

[idanqwe 0]

Oh yeah, now 'Legolas.' 13x archer wanna trade his character too.

that's ridicolous.

 

anyone from the staff wanna comment on this topic?

I'm gettin sick of the thoughtlessness by the admins.

[Francisco22 0]

Oh yeah, now 'Legolas.' 13x archer wanna trade his character too.

that's ridicolous.

 

anyone from the staff wanna comment on this topic?

I'm gettin sick of the thoughtlessness by the admins.

they wont. they're waiting till Archers disappear!

[G 0]

Oh yeah, now 'Legolas.' 13x archer wanna trade his character too.

that's ridicolous.

 

anyone from the staff wanna comment on this topic?

I'm gettin sick of the thoughtlessness by the admins.

 

i hope GM will development archer too, because i am archer too. sometimes i will ask myself "why i still playing my sick archer?"

i tell myself archer really worthless while compare with some other chars.

however, i think i wont sell or trade my char.

 

i am not here to show how i love my archer. i just think, it is not right you keep on telling who are selling or trading their AS becasue you think archer is suck. maybe some of them just want to play other class. not all the players want to play the strongest class, most of them play which they like.

 

hope GM will development archer, i think add attack power is better more than add block. because i dont think add some block will help much for archer, unless add 20%+ block. 

 

sorry for my bad english.

[martual 1]

make AS like 20% weaker to any other class which would be fair i think

[Zero 0]

Oh yeah, now 'Legolas.' 13x archer wanna trade his character too.

that's ridicolous.

 

anyone from the staff wanna comment on this topic?

I'm gettin sick of the thoughtlessness by the admins.

 

Quite personally this comment towards the admins makes me think you're the thoughtless one. The admins thoughtless? They've been working hard for a lot of changes lately, twice of which already since just this year have been greatly beneficial to AS. First, they greatly boosted AS skills and now with the new SoD they're also scoring much better in comparison to the other classes than they were before. In fact, many of them are in the top 10 which you really didn't see before. They've boosted you twice already now to try to tide you over until a better solution can be found and you insult them? Its one thing to bring a logical backing to make a valid point that there is still more to be done, but its quite another to make such a remark.

 

If AS hadn't received anything it might've been more acceptable, but between the first big boost to AS skills and the fact that they're far more dominant in the new SoD than the old, I don't think you have the right to such a harsh criticism.

 

Keep in mind they've been trying to put serious effort towards finishing t5. What is the point in overhauling your class to being balanced now just so they have to do it over again at t5? Sure we can't say how close or far it is, but its clear they're at least putting in the effort to make it possible and as player its hard to speak ill of that for a private server [since they aren't the original developers]. t5 is going to change the dynamics of any current balance quite a bit, if they make it balanced now AS just may become stupid OP if/when t5 comes or still be underpowered, meaning either way its going to need reworks.

 

It doesn't seem fair to ask a class to wait, but part of what your not taking into account is AS isn't in this boat alone. If AS gets a fair balance, then what about the magic classes who can be said to possibly be even worse off [mage for certain]? Mage has needed it far longer, and such topics don't seem to be popping up as of late. They basically can't do a single thing in this game well ever since SoD got modified, aside from low level exp.

 

Its not just about reworking AS, if you do that it wouldn't be fair not to do it for the magic classes. That is a lot of work for something you will have to change again in the future regardless.

 

I don't know about 'Legolas' and the others, but that is still their decision to sell/trade their char. People sell high level knights too, does that mean they're weak? Sure, I'm certain the class itself is a factor here, but it may not be the only factor. If the class gets balanced anyway, I'm sure some high levels would class change as you've seen in many cases.

[martual 1]

Oh yeah, now 'Legolas.' 13x archer wanna trade his character too.

that's ridicolous.

 

anyone from the staff wanna comment on this topic?

I'm gettin sick of the thoughtlessness by the admins.

 

Quite personally this comment towards the admins makes me think you're the thoughtless one. The admins thoughtless? They've been working hard for a lot of changes lately, twice of which already since just this year have been greatly beneficial to AS. First, they greatly boosted AS skills and now with the new SoD they're also scoring much better in comparison to the other classes than they were before. In fact, many of them are in the top 10 which you really didn't see before. They've boosted you twice already now to try to tide you over until a better solution can be found and you insult them? Its one thing to bring a logical backing to make a valid point that there is still more to be done, but its quite another to make such a remark.

 

If AS hadn't received anything it might've been more acceptable, but between the first big boost to AS skills and the fact that they're far more dominant in the new SoD than the old, I don't think you have the right to such a harsh criticism.

 

Keep in mind they've been trying to put serious effort towards finishing t5. What is the point in overhauling your class to being balanced now just so they have to do it over again at t5? Sure we can't say how close or far it is, but its clear they're at least putting in the effort to make it possible and as player its hard to speak ill of that for a private server [since they aren't the original developers]. t5 is going to change the dynamics of any current balance quite a bit, if they make it balanced now AS just may become stupid OP if/when t5 comes or still be underpowered, meaning either way its going to need reworks.

 

It doesn't seem fair to ask a class to wait, but part of what your not taking into account is AS isn't in this boat alone. If AS gets a fair balance, then what about the magic classes who can be said to possibly be even worse off [mage for certain]? Mage has needed it far longer, and such topics don't seem to be popping up as of late. They basically can't do a single thing in this game well ever since SoD got modified, aside from low level exp.

 

Its not just about reworking AS, if you do that it wouldn't be fair not to do it for the magic classes. That is a lot of work for something you will have to change again in the future regardless.

 

I don't know about 'Legolas' and the others, but that is still their decision to sell/trade their char. People sell high level knights too, does that mean they're weak? Sure, I'm certain the class itself is a factor here, but it may not be the only factor. If the class gets balanced anyway, I'm sure some high levels would class change as you've seen in many cases.

 

Make sense .... take it easy and play happily .... otherwise jst rest a while on AS until the balance is out ^^

[Artier 0]

+1 for Zero. I just stopped playing Archer cause I'm bored of waiting for the balance in the PvP area. Everything else, Archer's pretty damn good at - in a party, not solo. Damage-wise anyways, their defense is still too weak, in my opinion.

However yes, Mages....they don't have many topics to voice their own opinion cause there aren't many people that play Mage as a main. And if they do, they're usually only bothered about SoD.

 

I take my hat off to hardcore Mage players though lol, way more patient than I am. Rd, go fix it kk. <3

[Odoaker 0]

Came to think of it, i actually like how archers look.

Sad to hear all archers will stop playing there char, or will trade it for another char

 

 

* back to my ata it is *

[G 0]

archer now good at SOD is a joke.