Gold and Coins

[diemurd 484]

Good afternoon comunity of Wartale,

 

I have seen lots of topics and lots of people talking about the gold farming and the price of kc. I would like to give to all and to GM an honest opinion about it all.

 

The gold in game have bem loosing its value, but its not because of people who farm ct3 or because of people who loot gold or drops in sl. The gold has lost its value because the number of donations have decreased. People donate less now than before and thats it. So now i will give a few reasons why people donate less, what causes this deficit and i will give a few examples on how can adm solve this without ruining the game. 

 

Proof that the problem is coins, not gold: ct3, sod, gold and all that was there for many years and the inflation was never this bad.

 

Reasons why people donate less:

1. The game has nothing new at all, sl has been the last map for the past 3 years. This means, game needs new itens too.
2. Coins are extremely expensive to buy on coin shop. (at least for brs)
3. High levels are loosing their expectations on this game due to have no hs to exp in the last map.
4. All players loose expectation in Wartale due to trash community.

 

Deficits caused by less donations:

1. less coins in game
2. inflations of gold no matter how people can do it

 

Examples on how GM could improve game economy:

1. make donations cheaper than it is
2. create new maps, new itens
3. make up some events or any way that people can loot coins ingame (like coin sack), even if its low ammounts.
4. add a few itens from coin shop to premium shop to be sold by gold
5. make sl quests ready and more hs so high lvls would cheer up on game and donate to buy more exp service.

 

Now im gonna talk about my thinking on why people asks the things they are asking you to do GM.

 

I understand that there are people who feel on the side when they see other people rise up (fast the way they think) in game. But the thing is, someone who makes lots of gold farming in ct3, uses high char level, and that is normal, high levels should make more gold than some char 13x. And dont believe people who say that with a mg 13x they can make 200kk/ hour this is a lie. I tried many ways to do ct3 and i could only make 150kk / hour killing with 2 accounts 15x. But my point is, peple who are lower lvl ingame should make less gold than people higher level, this is what will make them want an account higher level, this is what will cheer them up to exp and buy coins to spend on itens.

 

GM you cant listen to every player who asks for nerf in everything in this game. If every way of farming gold in this game is vanished than sometime the gold will just vanish at all.

My opinion is that you should make players be able to farm their gold and also cheer them up to buy coins, not just kill the gold farming and then force coins to be the price people want, because it will never be. No one will be ever satisfied because this is how the world works.

 

Well i hope a few people could agree with me, but if not, i keep my opinion on this all. @Wartale you have made the best game of Wartale this world ever saw. But the community of this game is trash and many people will always think only on their side and not on a big picture. 

 

So all I ask to everyone is: Think on the big picture guys. Think of ways to improve the game that would be helpfull for everyone. 

[Wartale 7,456]

15 minutes ago, diemurd said:

The gold has lost its value because the number of donations have decreased. People donate less now than before and thats it.

I am surprise where do you get your static from?

 

15 minutes ago, diemurd said:

The gold in game have bem loosing its value, but its not because of people who farm ct3 or because of people who loot gold or drops in sl.

None of these are reasons for gold value decrease. 

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[ik3rigor 47]

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[juniordtx 3]

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[maniego 10]

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[Novais.fly 0]

+1

 

[lefaucheur 162]

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[MiNkLoOn 1]

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[hellfc321 1]

Good evening,

 

I started a little time in wartale, and I had a lot of fun, even though I did not donate (because it is absurdly expensive for Brazilians), I was very sad about the withdrawal of Iron 1 gold, it was one of the ways I used to collect gold of low level), another thing that discouraged me to play was the withdrawal of the filter, now to do moon hunter with 2 chars is very bad, in addition when it is upando and ends the filter, there are many items on the ground, sad.

I agree with all your @diemurd words, see you!

[marce2125 107]

Since the last gold changes, the coins stop to raise, so you hypothesis is wrong.

There was too much gold, so people selling for any price, it's simple they can did a lot of gold with tools in Iron 1 or 2 or ct3.

Now, no one buy coins for absurdly price like before.

And yes SL hs destroyed our economy in the past or you forget the people who sell sol sheltom for 50kk??

  

[Dookie 489]

15 hours ago, diemurd said:

 

1. Coins are extremely expensive to buy on coin shop. (at least for brs)
2. All players loose expectation in Wartale due to trash community.

 

 

For me making coins cheaper the way it is will lost its essence!

The community itself is boring that's why you called it (trash). +1000000000000000000000000

I agree for all the things you said! I stop donating cause of one reason, nothing new! ^^

[loucoptt 5]

15 hours ago, diemurd said:

Coins are extremely expensive to buy on coin shop. (at least for brs)

 

 

15 hours ago, hellfc321 said:

I started a little time in wartale, and I had a lot of fun, even though I did not donate (because it is absurdly expensive for Brazilians)

 

extremely expensive

Other nationalities ?

 

 

 

Edited December 13, 2018 by loucoptt

[Aceroll 3]

I'd rather say that you should increase the value of the coins. 
Coins shouldn't be so easy to buy through gold. 
If coins were valued more gold would be aswell cause it would leave you to actually save up gold to be able to buy coins. 

Where as now it's more like gold is shiteasy to get if you just put some effort into it. 

I'd say if you really want to decrease the gold amount on the server and make the gold valueable again, you should go straight to adding an npc that sells one specific nice item that is desireable for a specific "high" amount of gold. So if people buy it, most of the gold goes to the npc and that way we can get rid of alot of gold. 
Then make the coins being valued more, that's a player thing. 
Cause the players are the ones responsible for the market prices these days, not the server. 
If players starts selling coins for a higher amount of gold altogheter, it will raise. 

P.S The npc should sell one per account. Not more than that.

[TheHills 34]

3 spawns in SL where people stay 24/7 giving no chance to other people catching the spawn is discouraging. 
I myself like the game PVM itself can not upar in SL on account of not owning HS is really discouraging.

I know this has nothing to do with the topic but it is among these things that discourage some players who do not play PVP.

[Gu 168]

practically 80-90% of people who go BC level 151+ already have 140 + 22 items nobody wants because they do not have to spend, why few people go up 152+ level because it's boring and frustrating, of course the bigger your hardest level will stay to get stronger, but everyone knows that this game most people are already adults, work, have children, wife, husband, study at night and have only 3 hours at most to play why wake up early to work (my case for example) then you need the times of 1 hr to get a slot for upar, the high level makes it difficult and still has the question of having to do many trillions to get 1 level, if you could do 1Tri day, it would take 2-3 months to get up a level ... things like that make people lose interest in the game, most do not even have the conditions to donate (Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Colombia, Peru) how to pay for xp service?  All this economic influence

[testador 56]

20 hours ago, Wartale said:

I am surprise where do you get your static from?

Forum...

[Dsauce 145]

some people exp service 24/7 like it is their jobs?

 

 

Edited December 13, 2018 by Dsauce

[testador 56]

27 minutes ago, Dsauce said:

some people exp service 24/7 like it is their jobs?

 

 

yes, and they say that they are paid in coins 

[Dsauce 145]

31 minutes ago, testador said:

yes, and they say that they are paid in coins 

 

yup, 

like that is going to keep them alive months after months ?

[bobleo 155]

its so simple question! the game gets bored because we dont have any news about what we really want!

For example: Wings V1 in development plan. WHO ASKED FOR THIS????

 

We really need a new map, new world map, new quests at least and the rest of tier 5, and like Gu said, after 151+ dont have why we spend 2 months of our live to up 1 level and only for + 10 stats points and 1 skill point hahaha, do diq or sl 8 hours/day for 2 months for 10 stats points? nope.

 

thats the truly, the server have 80% of BRS and the staff dont make anything to facility for brazillian players about donate.

 

i am only active in forum, in game only for pvp, and i am one of a part of many players that are waiting for something more interesting in Wartale.

[rubens1235 8]

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[TigerShark22 500]

On 12/12/2018 at 11:32 PM, diemurd said:

Good afternoon comunity of Wartale,

 

I have seen lots of topics and lots of people talking about the gold farming and the price of kc. I would like to give to all and to GM an honest opinion about it all.

 

The gold in game have bem loosing its value, but its not because of people who farm ct3 or because of people who loot gold or drops in sl. The gold has lost its value because the number of donations have decreased. People donate less now than before and thats it. So now i will give a few reasons why people donate less, what causes this deficit and i will give a few examples on how can adm solve this without ruining the game. 

 

Proof that the problem is coins, not gold: ct3, sod, gold and all that was there for many years and the inflation was never this bad.

 

Reasons why people donate less:

1. The game has nothing new at all, sl has been the last map for the past 3 years. This means, game needs new itens too.
2. Coins are extremely expensive to buy on coin shop. (at least for brs)
3. High levels are loosing their expectations on this game due to have no hs to exp in the last map.
4. All players loose expectation in Wartale due to trash community.

 

Deficits caused by less donations:

1. less coins in game
2. inflations of gold no matter how people can do it

 

Examples on how GM could improve game economy:

1. make donations cheaper than it is
2. create new maps, new itens
3. make up some events or any way that people can loot coins ingame (like coin sack), even if its low ammounts.
4. add a few itens from coin shop to premium shop to be sold by gold
5. make sl quests ready and more hs so high lvls would cheer up on game and donate to buy more exp service.

 

Now im gonna talk about my thinking on why people asks the things they are asking you to do GM.

 

I understand that there are people who feel on the side when they see other people rise up (fast the way they think) in game. But the thing is, someone who makes lots of gold farming in ct3, uses high char level, and that is normal, high levels should make more gold than some char 13x. And dont believe people who say that with a mg 13x they can make 200kk/ hour this is a lie. I tried many ways to do ct3 and i could only make 150kk / hour killing with 2 accounts 15x. But my point is, peple who are lower lvl ingame should make less gold than people higher level, this is what will make them want an account higher level, this is what will cheer them up to exp and buy coins to spend on itens.

 

GM you cant listen to every player who asks for nerf in everything in this game. If every way of farming gold in this game is vanished than sometime the gold will just vanish at all.

My opinion is that you should make players be able to farm their gold and also cheer them up to buy coins, not just kill the gold farming and then force coins to be the price people want, because it will never be. No one will be ever satisfied because this is how the world works.

 

Well i hope a few people could agree with me, but if not, i keep my opinion on this all. @Wartale you have made the best game of Wartale this world ever saw. But the community of this game is trash and many people will always think only on their side and not on a big picture. 

 

So all I ask to everyone is: Think on the big picture guys. Think of ways to improve the game that would be helpfull for everyone. 

The reasons were sod/abusing loot filters in low lvl maps. CT3- when u make gold there- you just take it frok other players, it doesnt change the amount of gold in game. Sod/loot filter did. 

I agree on the suggestion about new  map new items though, and the GMs are probablly working on it, trying to get stuffs done.

Edited December 14, 2018 by TigerShark22

[WarLord 87]

Your topic is how to increase gold value? If that, i have some comments for your solutions:

1. make donations cheaper than it is => people only spend coins for items on shop while gold continue supply on the market with less consumption=> make nonsense. 
2. create new maps, new items => agree with it because ppl will spend more gold, focus time on hunting or exp => but they can not create new map soon as you can => this solution is not possible.
3. make up some events or any way that people can loot coins ingame (like coin sack), even if its low ammounts. => like the 1st solution
4. add a few itens from coin shop to premium shop to be sold by gold => decrease coin consumption => lesser coins donation
5. make sl quests ready and more hs so high lvls would cheer up on game and donate to buy more exp service.=> nonsense because gold continue supply on the market with less consumption.

So, the point is how to make the supply of gold is shortage and ppl consump more gold.

 

And Wartale staffs have already done something: SOD prize decrease, Filter on gold shop...

 

About the development plan:

 

For player side, it's sure that game dont have something new will make ppl bored. For Wartale team side, they also want to have new maps, new items soon to get more donation but its not easy and fast. A lot of things to do beside new maps.

 

They are professtional and doing the best way to make game improved. 

 

Yes, They "Think of ways to improve the game that would be helpfull for everyone"

 

Edited December 14, 2018 by WarLord