idanqwe 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2011 Awesome. Mages' and mechs' killing problems are fixed now. The game has never been this close to a real balance. I'll convince Wartale to boost Fighters' AOE now. (they should be at least decent mass killers, otherwise it's not fair to them) real balance? I think my 111 mage can 1 shot my 126 AS with one DR I wouldnt call that balance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TripleR 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2011 Awesome. Mages' and mechs' killing problems are fixed now. The game has never been this close to a real balance. I'll convince Wartale to boost Fighters' AOE now. (they should be at least decent mass killers, otherwise it's not fair to them) real balance? I think my 111 mage can 1 shot my 126 AS with one DR I wouldnt call that balance It can't. You haven't even tried it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
babyarcher 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2011 A 12x mage (not even pure spirit, with 100 pts into health) can kill my 130 mech with 2 DRs. But I don't know if this a problem with the mage's atk, or the mech's ability to tank. I believe it's a combination of both, but I guess it's only fair to see how things turn out after t5 is fully released before any extensive revision to skills. Even though the thought of getting 2-hitted by a mage 10 lvls lower is a little ridiculous Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
randyhuynh 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2011 Awesome. Mages' and mechs' killing problems are fixed now. The game has never been this close to a real balance. I'll convince Wartale to boost Fighters' AOE now. (they should be at least decent mass killers, otherwise it's not fair to them) real balance? I think my 111 mage can 1 shot my 126 AS with one DR I wouldnt call that balance wait for all T5 to be release, then we can actually say that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
randyhuynh 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2011 also DR barly hits, it ttakes like shit load of DR also what you dont get is im a pro mage ( me and 3r) are the only pro mage (no offence but some mage here suck and donate or something like that, facts are facts). i know how to build a mage and dominate go 1x1 some other mages and u see that they will die and dont know how to buff and shit unless they are donaters then thats another story against a pro is different babyarcher also i would like to see after all skill is release, mech skill shield is not relase yet, so i wont call that 2 / 1 hit ko counts, also we have to wait for all skills before we can 100% balance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edgardo 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2011 ... no offence but ever other mage here suck and donate or something like that, facts are facts ... telling things you don't know won't help you in life. so, take this for your life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
randyhuynh 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2011 i was just saying and its kinda true, only triple R knows how to balance mage and me, im very pro cacto u remmeber old days where u couldnt beat me and i was lower level / bad items and u had shit load of stuff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edgardo 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2011 lol veri pro. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
martual 1 Report post Posted June 2, 2011 i was just saying and its kinda true, only triple R knows how to balance mage and me, im very pro cacto u remmeber old days where u couldnt beat me and i was lower level / bad items and u had shit load of stuff since 2 of you are pro then sahre lmao Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
randyhuynh 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2011 well idc i know wat i say is true if u put me and another mage same items and gear ill rape him in every thing anyways stick to topic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thuong1nguoi 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2011 im very pro What is the qualify to be a pro magician? Can you please tell me? I want to be pro like you ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edgardo 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2011 ... anyways stick to topic stick to the reality... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
randyhuynh 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2011 im very pro What is the qualify to be a pro magician? Can you please tell me? I want to be pro like you ) well if u were playing the time i was playing back in december, and u see my mage VieT in game, first thing u will think of, this mage is very pro and look at his gears, ''hacks'' which i dont. ... anyways stick to topic stick to the reality... k. o.0? @ wat i post im not trying to say anything bad about other mages, i didnt mean it that way, i proabably use the wrong word''suck'' but wat i meant was only a few people know how to play mage and aalot of people join the mage band wagon ( magewagon ), i see mages here and there that switch from pikes to mage fighter to mage etc etc like they know how to play mage now i played mage all my life and long time ago i was most mages helper including 3r, like people would ask for advice etc etc cause we were very good ingame with mage, from hunting to pvp to tanking. sorry if i hurt some of ya Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
babyarcher 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2011 also DR barly hits, it ttakes like shit load of DR also what you dont get is im a pro mage ( me and 3r) are the only pro mage (no offence but some mage here suck and donate or something like that, facts are facts). i know how to build a mage and dominate go 1x1 some other mages and u see that they will die and dont know how to buff and shit unless they are donaters then thats another story against a pro is different babyarcher also i would like to see after all skill is release, mech skill shield is not relase yet, so i wont call that 2 / 1 hit ko counts, also we have to wait for all skills before we can 100% balance Look at what I said, I said we should wait for all t5skills to be out before considering extensive revisions on skills. And as for it not being a 1-2 hit KO skill, you've tested it with me yesterday, you know what it's like. Regardless of whether or not trine shield for mech is released, it is still a 1-2 hit KO skill right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
randyhuynh 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2011 well its not 1-2 k.o since they say mech was bugged in abs or w/e i still dont 1 hit every1 so thats not rigged [glow=red,2,300]also it doesnt hit every time and server is laging, so it [glow=red,2,300]stacks[/glow] dmg[/glow] and mage cant tank at all, ( my mage can cause i stats my way and i use 11 buffs) this seems more to ur mech then mage... anyways they can test a few things and lower it, idc much but if it make mages suck then that won't be fair mech defense and skills should be balance and fix. if they keep working on 1 skill, then how would they get to the next skill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akira 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2011 Awesome. Mages' and mechs' killing problems are fixed now. The game has never been this close to a real balance. I'll convince Wartale to boost Fighters' AOE now. (they should be at least decent mass killers, otherwise it's not fair to them) real balance? I think my 111 mage can 1 shot my 126 AS with one DR I wouldnt call that balance When MGS is OP, is ok... otherwise is umbalance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
babyarcher 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2011 well its not 1-2 k.o since they say mech was bugged in abs or w/e i still dont 1 hit every1 so thats not rigged [glow=red,2,300]also it doesnt hit every time and server is laging, so it [glow=red,2,300]stacks[/glow] dmg[/glow] and mage cant tank at all, ( my mage can cause i stats my way and i use 11 buffs) this seems more to ur mech then mage... anyways they can test a few things and lower it, idc much but if it make mages suck then that won't be fair mech defense and skills should be balance and fix. if they keep working on 1 skill, then how would they get to the next skill just because you don't 1 hit people with a skill doesn't mean that it's not a source for problem. If you're 2 shotting a mech, you're probably 1 shotting an archer, 2-3 shotting other chars; and this is with a 10 lvl discrepancy. I concur that server lag doesn't help, and perhaps things will be better when server lag is fixed, but its still too much firepower imho. And no, they're not going to work exclusively to fix just one skill, I believe if they do fix amplify for the better, it will be fixed and released together with other skills, just like how they released 2 other skills while nerfing maximize. And if they fix maximize, they won't make mages suck, just like how they gave maximize a reasonable nerf. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
randyhuynh 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2011 the atk rate is really low lmfao, wat ur problem here, make mage shit? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
babyarcher 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2011 the atk rate is really low lmfao, wat ur problem here, make mage shit? No. Read what I said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
randyhuynh 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2011 well when half the server comes and cry about it, then i they can lower it but i and alot true mage players wait for so long, if u dont know, mage never from ePT to uPT to other PTs towtwere able to kill mech could still kill but hard but mage never 3R pvp rank dosent count because he use Athenisia in BC during SW and if there were no Athenisia or w/e its call his record wouldnt be there cause they die before they can cast 1 dia mage still dont tank in bc like mech, my mage only tanks because i buff like hell i rather see them make prs able to PVP now, alot people can cry and i dont give a sht, time for magic chars to help in BC fk everyone try bring those magic chars down and make them helpers only, time for magic chars to actually dominate and be a threat in bc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idanqwe 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2011 threat yes, 1shotters no Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ibben 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2011 i was just saying and its kinda true, only triple R knows how to balance mage and me, im very pro Haha m8 =D I have not seen you online for months, things change and I can tell you that 3R is not the only PRO mage out there anymore. We are alot of mages who played in other servers and is high lvl here with no donation equip and high age items. Myself? I have played a mage in every server I been since back in ept when there was only tier 1. Thats loyality and addiction to the class. Cheers! =) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
randyhuynh 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2011 i was just saying and its kinda true, only triple R knows how to balance mage and me, im very pro Haha m8 =D I have not seen you online for months, things change and I can tell you that 3R is not the only PRO mage out there anymore. We are alot of mages who played in other servers and is high lvl here with no donation equip and high age items. Myself? I have played a mage in every server I been since back in ept when there was only tier 1. Thats loyality and addiction to the class. Cheers! =) well i didnt mean it that way, just 3R was only person pop up in my head but if ur one. that good, ya because i havent mention a few since i havent play in a while! but wat i meant was alot people are try to play mage now and act like they know the char in 1month or less then a year of experience. and they dont know much and dont know how to dominate with mage without donation or something like that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ibben 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2011 i was just saying and its kinda true, only triple R knows how to balance mage and me, im very pro Haha m8 =D I have not seen you online for months, things change and I can tell you that 3R is not the only PRO mage out there anymore. We are alot of mages who played in other servers and is high lvl here with no donation equip and high age items. Myself? I have played a mage in every server I been since back in ept when there was only tier 1. Thats loyality and addiction to the class. Cheers! =) well i didnt mean it that way, just 3R was only person pop up in my head but if ur one. that good, ya because i havent mention a few since i havent play in a while! but wat i meant was alot people are try to play mage now and act like they know the char in 1month or less then a year of experience. and they dont know much and dont know how to dominate with mage without donation or something like that True. +1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
babyarcher 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2011 well when half the server comes and cry about it, then i they can lower it but i and alot true mage players wait for so long, if u dont know, mage never from ePT to uPT to other PTs towtwere able to kill mech could still kill but hard but mage never 3R pvp rank dosent count because he use Athenisia in BC during SW and if there were no Athenisia or w/e its call his record wouldnt be there cause they die before they can cast 1 dia mage still dont tank in bc like mech, my mage only tanks because i buff like hell i rather see them make prs able to PVP now, alot people can cry and i dont give a sht, time for magic chars to help in BC fk everyone try bring those magic chars down and make them helpers only, time for magic chars to actually dominate and be a threat in bc Its okay, I don't blame you for getting upset when people suggest FIXING your class by removing your ability to 1 or 2 shot chars 10 lvls higher than you. Reading what people say before ranting senselessly would help your case too. No one wants to reduce mages to magic source slaves, nor would they want to reduce prs to nothing but VL whores. All I'm saying is to make it less ridiculous, when a mage kills someone 10 lvls higher in 2 DRs, something is wrong. Not gonna derail this thread further cuz all you do is ignore what I post and misrepresent me by crying bloody murder, I've said what I wanted to, and hope the GMs and 3R review it. if they don't, I'm cool with it too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites