Complainment about mech new status and it's nerfing

[Gogg 3]

I don't understand why people bringing T5 stuff to this topic, so far, at least for me, there's no Trine Shield to use and it won't be out that soon

 

About the "every hit take 1k" wow, I should be killing with 1 hit then! It's just not happening

 

And if you tried PvPing with a mech with same items/lvl it's not that easy. Of course if you do like fighters and pikes and just get inside the PvP area and surprise attack people you got big chances of killing fast

 

So if that's not that easy to PvP with the current stats I'm sure with lower ones it will be worse

 

Again, 'cause it seems idiots don't like to read: I DON'T LIKE MECHS IN THE WAY THEY ARE

But as it seems impossible to give me what we all expected from a mech I prefer playing it as it is then being useless once more

[martual 1]

Why cant all tests are carried out beore the actual release? Wouldnt it be easier if we can get a better balance if a complete test are carried out? Simple as mentuoned thousand times, jst 2-3 people in each class and test it out. Gosh this balancing thing will kst carried on endlessly with insane numbers of topics and feedback which will never comes to a conclusion.

[Gogg 3]

With Maximize you can't tank like a knight, so I don't mind if you hit a bit harder than knights. And that's what we're trying to achieve. But at the moment, with 200% you're not hitting a bit harder than knights. You're hitting a lot harder. Every hit of yours is like one CS with Vanish from pikes (with no delay).

 

Yea, with Maximize you can't tank like knight... or fighter... or pike... maybe even atas... with Metal Armor you can't do the same thing too

 

I don't give a fuck to these tests. I do mines at my own. And I don't pick someone to test with me, it's all about real practice. Obviously some of them suck and just can't do anything, just keep dying and dying and dying

 

If you can't fix what's wrong stop fucking it up. There are over 10 another OP things running and they're running for a damn long time and so far NOTHING done

[TripleR 0]

With Maximize you can't tank like a knight, so I don't mind if you hit a bit harder than knights. And that's what we're trying to achieve. But at the moment, with 200% you're not hitting a bit harder than knights. You're hitting a lot harder. Every hit of yours is like one CS with Vanish from pikes (with no delay).

 

Yea, with Maximize you can't tank like knight... or fighter... or pike... maybe even atas... with Metal Armor you can't do the same thing too

 

Are you serious? Of course you can tank like a fighter/pike. Sure, you might tank a bit less when you're 2handed, but you tank more than them when you're 1handed. You just gotta learn to switch to 1handed when necessary.

And then you have CS+Vanish with no delay. Clearly overpowered, and if you think 160% is gonna make Maximize suck once again then this topic is what I call whining.

 

I don't give a fuck to these tests. I do mines at my own. And I don't pick someone to test with me, it's all about real practice. Obviously some of them suck and just can't do anything, just keep dying and dying and dying

 

Real practice? So what you're saying is that you tested your mech against people with better gear than yours, people that lagged like hell, etc? You should pick someone to do tests with you, not some random guy with 1k+ ping or full donated gear when yours clearly isn't.

 

If you can't fix what's wrong stop fucking it up.

 

Lovely words to hear when someone is trying to fix the class you play.

How about Maximize back to 50% and then you try to fix it?

 

Get real.

[Gogg 3]

No you can't tank. And yes, I'm serious. Every hit from a knight that lands upon my head take half of my HP, no matter if shield on or 2 handed

 

Real practice means real people playing. Nothing about full stuffed people, but real players. From different lvls, different countries

 

I don't give a damn single crap to Maximize, I won't say it again. Get my abs to work, get my tanking as it should be. Can you? I doubt it

[meeks 0]

i totally agree with gogg and i dont get it as well...

there r a lot of OP things and now when mech finally got 1 fix, only 1!!!, it is possible to  nerf it right with the next patcht!? COME ON!

 

if that is possible, bring up those nerf/changes/fixes etc that TripleR suggested!!!

 

ks pwns ms like gogg said...with shield or not...

if ks uses there t4 skill u only can stand there and use pots until it is over, counter attacks will kill u in an instant...

ps kills everything in 1 shot and hits everytime

NOT OP?! r u serious!?!?!?

 

if u wanna play my mech, just ask me. if there wont be only noobs in bc u will see how OP mech is...

[meeks 0]

i totally agree with gogg and i dont get it as well...

there r a lot of OP things and now when mech finally got 1 fix, only 1!!!, it is possible to  nerf it right with the next patcht!? COME ON!

 

if that is possible, bring up those nerf/changes/fixes etc that TripleR suggested!!!

 

ks pwns ms like gogg said...with shield or not...

if ks uses there t4 skill u only can stand there and use pots until it is over, counter attacks will kill u in an instant...

ps kills everything in 1 shot and hits everytime

NOT OP?! r u serious!?!?!?

 

if u wanna play my mech, just ask me. if there wont be only noobs in bc u will see how OP mech is...

 

sry forgot one thing...

the best chara overall ingame (tank hunt xp pvp) got a +100 atk pow skill and can use his defensiv skills as well...well let me see...mech...not! dmg or tank, not both!

im going to test how fast i kill in et3 with maxi. ive noted some times hunting with jav/automation

 

ok test done:

before max fix(using ma): xetan with same equip, hammer +9 and devine force, time: 3:21

using auto with +20 jav and devine force, time: 2:15

with new max, enigma force and equip see above, time: 1:47

dont have a time with 50% maxi...

 

15 secs with 140 ms for et3 mobs? LIES!

 

what r u doing when precision comes out?

[fyurian 0]

ok then fix all tank skills and reset all basic att skills

so u can tank

but if u do that lets take away ur spark build advantage aswell ok

lvl slow again

 

[QMan 0]

if u have some test...

 

but if i am mech lv125 full tanker skill

def 387x abs 287 hp 910

 

got die from 1 hit skill avenging (FS)

from FS player lv 120

 

it should still OP for FS???

it my question for someone already have a testing...

thx

 

(with ata/as i die every time when try to tank 1-1...with stand and press HP pot only)

also OP??

 

[martual 1]

Easiest way, fix the def n abs for ms in pvp n this wil eventualy solved all the doubt

[meeks 0]

ok then fix all tank skills and reset all basic att skills

so u can tank

but if u do that lets take away ur spark build advantage aswell ok

lvl slow again

 

delete mech?kkkkkkkkkkk

 

im telling how it is. i try to post only facts. i showed u my equip and told u what i can kill... i also did et3 to check those 15 secs TripleR talked about...

[TripleR 0]

15 secs with 140 ms for et3 mobs? LIES!

 

Well I said a random number, all I know is it's freaking fast. These are the actual numbers:

 

No sheltom force: 26 secs

 

 

 

Oredo Force: 22 secs

 

 

 

Faster than any other class except maybe Atalantas, but that's because they are OP as well.

[meeks 0]

15 secs with 140 ms for et3 mobs? LIES!

 

Well I said a random number, all I know is it's freaking fast. These are the actual numbers:

 

No sheltom force: 26 secs

 

 

 

Oredo Force: 22 secs

 

 

 

Faster than any other class except maybe Atalantas, but that's because they are OP as well.

 

my dmg is 911-1388 with enigma force, still 1:47...gm is using hax...

btw naz is easy to kill. do it against xetan, it would take longer for sure...

how fast is a 140 maxi equipped ks? a 140 maxi equipped ps? fs as well?

 

btw why not nerf ata? just put down there %-dmg...

[Zero 0]

I don't think 160% is as drastic as some may feel it will be, its certainly better than the 50% they put it at last time. I think 160% is still a good amount for the future, we can change it again if it isn't.

 

Regardless a mech's offense should not be completely up to par with others, but we can only do this if their tanking excels by the same amount, which isn't happening as of late. [The issue]

 

Mech does need the tank fix many have called for, then the BC formula should be set to .4-.5 abs instead of .3 imo and mech should be fine. Hopefully less one shots from all classes too.

 

[TripleR 0]

(...) then the BC formula should be set to .4-.5 abs instead of .3 imo and mech should be fine. Hopefully less one shots from all classes too.

 

Yeah, that's already on my list.

 

how fast is a 140 maxi equipped ks? a 140 maxi equipped ps? fs as well?

 

btw why not nerf ata? just put down there %-dmg...

 

I tried Knight as well and it's not as fast as this.

 

And yes, Atas should be nerfed.

[Gogg 3]

I don't think 160% is as drastic as some may feel it will be, its certainly better than the 50% they put it at last time. I think 160% is still a good amount for the future, we can change it again if it isn't.

 

Regardless a mech's offense should not be completely up to par with others, but we can only do this if their tanking excels by the same amount, which isn't happening as of late. [The issue]

 

Mech does need the tank fix many have called for, then the BC formula should be set to .4-.5 abs instead of .3 imo and mech should be fine. Hopefully less one shots from all classes too.

Got to be kidding me

 

The abs just don't work at all, mind explaining me how changes on abs formulas would help "nothing" to become "something"?

[meeks 0]

1v1 vs Frost = 122 knight +20 110 sword

6 times pvped, 3 wins/3 lose...yeah im really overpowered

 

140 ks needs 1 more second?

[Zero 0]

I don't think 160% is as drastic as some may feel it will be, its certainly better than the 50% they put it at last time. I think 160% is still a good amount for the future, we can change it again if it isn't.

 

Regardless a mech's offense should not be completely up to par with others, but we can only do this if their tanking excels by the same amount, which isn't happening as of late. [The issue]

 

Mech does need the tank fix many have called for, then the BC formula should be set to .4-.5 abs instead of .3 imo and mech should be fine. Hopefully less one shots from all classes too.

Got to be kidding me

 

The abs just don't work at all, mind explaining me how changes on abs formulas would help "nothing" to become "something"?

 

If it doesn't work at all, then it will be clear its bugged and needs to be fixed asap .

[topher 0]

200% ?

Got to be kidding me

Man it's ridiculous how my mech 119 kill 125+ so easily

Stop whining, 160% won't suck once again, fucking boosting one side won't make the class balanced, you need to fix one thing and then fix another. Where's the fun when you are hitted by a cs you die, when not you kill in 2 hits ? dmmt that's stupid.

160% will be good, after that sandurr must fix the abs and then it'll be good.

[Gogg 3]

200% ?

Got to be kidding me

Man it's ridiculous how my mech 119 kill 125+ so easily

Stop whining, 160% won't suck once again, fruiting boosting one side won't make the class balanced, you need to fix one thing and then fix another. Where's the fun when you are hitted by a cs you die, when not you kill in 2 hits ? dmmt that's stupid.

160% will be good, after that sandurr must fix the abs and then it'll be good.

 

If you're going to try to teach me anything about mechs and balancing it go, please, get at least half of my own experience on it

 

Too much blablabla from your side, nothing new to me. So yea, you can shut up before talking about mechs to me, thanks

 

 

If it doesn't work at all, then it will be clear its bugged and needs to be fixed asap .

Almost 2k defense and over twice abs rate more than ANY other class

 

If you can explain how mech tank nothing with that and how the abs boost will bring any benefit to it (simple math 0 x 0.3 and 0 x 0.5 is the same thing) I'd be really happy

But that ain't happening, right? Gotta be blind if you got even a little doubt this ain't bugged

[topher 0]

If you're going to try to teach me anything about mechs and balancing it go, please, get at least half of my own experience on it

 

Too much blablabla from your side, nothing new to me. So yea, you can shut up before talking about mechs to me, thanks

Stop thinking you know me. And experience ? 4 year of bpt on mech is that good enough ? Or maybe I got to be god to talk to you.

Blablabla ? Only from your side: "My mech can't kill without being OP, so please, just because I don't know you to change to 1h don't nerf mech T.T"

WHINER

[Gogg 3]

Yes asshole, 4 years of bPT is fucking nothing. Tell me you started playing on pre-aor,  still the same, absolutelly nothing

 

Because things roll different here, maybe you didn't notice yet

 

So yea kid, what you did here so far? For how long you play? What's your experience on PvP and PvE over here?

 

 

"My mech can't kill without being OP, so please, just because I don't know you to change to 1h don't nerf mech T.T"

Now it seems it's yoou who don't know me hahahahahahaha

Go learn a bit more and read this topic again

[babyarcher 0]

Stop thinking you know me. And experience ? 4 year of bpt on mech is that good enough ? Or maybe I got to be god to talk to you.

Blablabla ? Only from your side: "My mech can't kill without being OP, so please, just because I don't know you to change to 1h don't nerf mech T.T"

WHINER

 

I don't give a damn single crap to Maximize, I won't say it again. Get my abs to work, get my tanking as it should be.

 

Again, 'cause it seems idiots don't like to read: I DON'T LIKE MECHS IN THE WAY THEY ARE

But as it seems impossible to give me what we all expected from a mech I prefer playing it as it is then being useless once more

 

Just sayin . We all agree that 200% is too much, but it's not really about the nerf per se that I'm concerned about. I'm more concerned over how they are so ready to nerf mechs (the moment we get something that makes us strong in PvP) when they haven't dealt with the BC abs formula for mechs (which is clearly bugged) for such a long time. And also, when it comes to OP, there are other OP classes and skills, but they haven't been nerfed, not after such a long time. Why nerf mechs after just 1 patch?

[topher 0]

Yes asshole, 4 years of bPT is fucking nothing. Tell me you started playing on pre-aor,  still the same, absolutelly nothing

 

Because things roll different here, maybe you didn't notice yet

 

So yea kid, what you did here so far? For how long you play? What's your experience on PvP and PvE over here?

 

 

"My mech can't kill without being OP, so please, just because I don't know you to change to 1h don't nerf mech T.T"

Now it seems it's yoou who don't know me hahahahahahaha

Go learn a bit more and read this topic again

Reading the topic again...

Oh, I noticed now, things roll different here, I thought priston was priston in anywhere, some changes here, some others there, and I've thought that nothing really changed. Now you cleared my mind, thanks.

/sarcasm off.

 

My experience on BPT is nothing? Maybe. I've been playing as a priest till now, and my experience as priest from others pristons seems not helping me, I mean last siege I was tanking 3 13x and then a mech called widget(I guess) 2 hit-killed me, YO, maybe is my experience here, maybe I just don't have played enough

 

Anyway, here goes a fact, gogg, there's always a positive side, if you get nerfed you'll have more time to whine here 

 

@babyarcher

They can't fix everything at once, they're probably thinking in fix the atk, what really sucks before the last update, see how it goes, and then start working in other factor of mech's balance. And about they dont nerf other classes I really don't know why.

[Gogg 3]

Just sayin . We all agree that 200% is too much, but it's not really about the nerf per se that I'm concerned about. I'm more concerned over how they are so ready to nerf mechs (the moment we get something that makes us strong in PvP) when they haven't dealt with the BC abs formula for mechs (which is clearly bugged) for such a long time. And also, when it comes to OP, there are other OP classes and skills, but they haven't been nerfed, not after such a long time. Why nerf mechs after just 1 patch?

 

Thanks for that, I couldn't sum it up better, even though they're my own words

 

 

They can't fix everything at once, they're probably thinking in fix the atk, what really sucks before the last update, see how it goes, and then start working in other factor of mech's balance. And about they dont nerf other classes I really don't know why.

So you're just saying you don't know anything about fixing and balancing over rPT, as you just stated

So leave this matter for who's on this for longer and know a bit of what's going on apart of just throwing your useless opinion about something you don't even properly know