Guest TFSE Report post Posted June 1, 2011 In greek myth, Hades wasn't evil; he and Persephone were the king and queen of the underworld. Everyone, regardless of being good and evil, have to pass through them into the underworld. Only gods and blessed demi gods (herakles) that were immortal were allowed to live on Mt Olympus. and anyway, Athena is Zeus' daughter. Came from his head. She's legit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TFSE Report post Posted June 1, 2011 Also, if you're going with siblings; then you should throw in Hera and Aphrodite (yes, Zeus did marry his sister) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gogg 3 Report post Posted June 1, 2011 As I said, by following the bloodline and hierarchy Athena doesn't fit Poseidon is the best to replace it, hell yea, as the world got divided between him, Hades and Zeus Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TFSE Report post Posted June 1, 2011 bloodline, ok. But hierarchy? Athena was ranked a lot higher than Hades and Poseidon in terms of power and authority. Poseidon hardly ever made an entrance in any myth, and Hades is only prominent in a myth where he kidnaps Persephone. So no, in terms of hierarchy, Athena > Poseidon AND Hades. edit: Sorry, but I just don't see the importance behind this suggestion. Moreover, the arguments for it are misplaced and (most probably) wiki-ed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crius 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2011 Poseidon was actually pretty widely worshipped as I recall. Hades on the other hand, probably not so much. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gogg 3 Report post Posted June 1, 2011 Yes hierarchy. Those 3 gods rule the world, they divided it after the rebelion against the titans. The skies and the land, the sea and the underworld. So they got their "kingdom", where they rule all-poweful, above anything else Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TFSE Report post Posted June 1, 2011 and yet if Zeus willed it, they couldn't do shit. They're not any more powerful than Athena. Zeus favoured Athena because she was his daughter after he swallowed Metis. He didn't favour his brothers. edit: this is stupid. I'm not gonna continue arguing about greek mythology with anyone unless they're my classics professor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gogg 3 Report post Posted June 1, 2011 Zeus lead Olympus, he doesn't rule everywhere. And lead 'cause of an agreement between him and his 2 brothers, who was supposed to be so called king of the gods was Hades because he's older Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TFSE Report post Posted June 1, 2011 omfg srsly? Zeus is the supreme rulerrrrrrrr of all the olympians. christ. read the iliad. read the odyssey. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TFSE Report post Posted June 1, 2011 moved cause dumb argument is dumb and shouldnt spam suggestions Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TFSE Report post Posted June 1, 2011 well i'm glad you supposedly read them both, perhaps you can recall that poseidon favoured the trojans and his wall? and what did zeus do? yeah, he shit on poseidon's stupid little wall and let the greeks win. and hades, when he kidnapped persephone, demeter threw a hissy fit and what did zeus do? yeah, he shit on hades and made him return persephone to her mother for a part of the year. poseidon and hades > zeus? LOL. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gogg 3 Report post Posted June 1, 2011 land + sky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gogg 3 Report post Posted June 1, 2011 Whatever, Poseidon/Hades > Athena, still~~~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CurbYourenthUsiasm 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2011 WTF!? Do you understand how lame and like a nerd you sound like!? STFU, Gogg has a point you book worm virgin.... change Athena to Poseidon, 3 brothers FTW... then make Athena a server ONLY androgynous Iliad buffs can log into Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zero 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2011 Whatever, Poseidon/Hades > Athena, still~~~ That is also why one of the most well known greek cities is named ATHENs? Literally change the S and the A, it was athena's city and favored for that reason. [Also the major temple there was dedicated to her] Coming from Zeus, there are tons of parallels between her and her father completely not present in Poseidon or Hades. I also recently had to take a course on all this stuff last semester, and TFSE is dead on, and its leaving me asking what were you guys smoking or did you just watch nothing but Disney's attempt at butchering greek tales? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TFSE Report post Posted June 1, 2011 WTF!? Do you understand how lame and like a nerd you sound like!? STFU, Gogg has a point you book worm virgin.... change Athena to Poseidon, 3 brothers FTW... then make Athena a server ONLY androgynous Iliad buffs can log into NO MAN INVALID POINT IS INVALID. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davv 1 Report post Posted June 1, 2011 some ppl here watched the clash of the titans good 3d, fail storyline. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zero 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2011 WTF!? Do you understand how lame and like a nerd you sound like!? STFU, Gogg has a point you book worm virgin.... change Athena to Poseidon, 3 brothers FTW... then make Athena a server ONLY androgynous Iliad buffs can log into Illiad? Don't you mean, like every actual text containing these names? Perhaps you should read a bit more yourself. Also, for people who are claiming to know so much about how it works, the greek gods weren't much for bros before hoes. It was more like hoes > hoes > hoes > more hoes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gogg 3 Report post Posted June 1, 2011 Being protected of someone with power don't make you powerful Nice that you got few classes about it. Maybe you read a bit more than just whatever you had to? I did, and watched few stuff about greek mythology too No they didn't literally changed anything, Athens is an English name That doesn't change anything at all, whorship to the gods doesn't show how important or powerful they are Quit that bullshit philosophy about wisdom, mind and shits like that, that's where Athena gets so important representing it. Get by the whole myth history... and not just from a font, but from many 'cause there are few different versions for few stuff Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TFSE Report post Posted June 1, 2011 some ppl here watched the clash of the titans good 3d, fail storyline. you know what else is fail? reading enigma as 'vagina' gg davv gg. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TripleR 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2011 some ppl here watched the clash of the titans good 3d, fail storyline. you know what else is fail? reading enigma as 'vagina' gg davv gg. OH SNAP! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CurbYourenthUsiasm 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2011 YOU ARE INVALID YOU FRUIT!!!!! And Zero, you belong in the new Athena... fruiting geek!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TFSE Report post Posted June 1, 2011 umad cause i read books instead of playing pc games 24/7 as a kid >: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zero 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2011 Being protected of someone with power don't make you powerful Nice that you got few classes about it. Maybe you read a bit more than just whatever you had to? I did, and watched few stuff about greek mythology too No they didn't literally changed anything, Athens is an English name That doesn't change anything at all, whorship to the gods doesn't show how important or powerful they are Quit that bullshit philosophy about wisdom, mind and shits like that, that's where Athena gets so important representing it. Get by the whole myth history... and not just from a font, but from many 'cause there are few different versions for few stuff Yes, hollywood does an EXCELLENT job at being historically accurate. You've barely stated anything correct or made any attempt to give the actual story behind it. Accusations are easy, now you're going to sit here and lecture us on how there is something we're all missing? Okay, well what is this great conspiracy of yours? Yes, discard homer, aeschylus, sopphocles and so on, clearly they had NO IDEA what greek mythology was about. The all knowing gogg should alleviate the truth behind everything. He is timeless after all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davv 1 Report post Posted June 1, 2011 zero you made my day. all hail gogg, the all-knowing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites