Sananda 565 Report post Posted August 5, 2020 4 hours ago, Merenda said: You said literally everything. What we face today, unfortunately, is this reality: Players who literally never played with certain classes, giving their opinion on them, as if they had a minimum understanding. The game has taken a completely opposite path to balancing. If I play with a 150 full drop +22 character, and I make no effort to improve it, obviously the game will not seems balanced to me against equipped and strong ones. Nowadays we have 3 classes literally dead, and any alternative builds that we try to make them viable, will be the reason to complain. And this is fault of us players, in parts. Now we noticed that Staff attends most of the suggestions on balancing, just post and insist, and this is dangerous. Dangerous because any beginner in any class, even if they have 0 knowledge about the class, can request a nerf based on numbers and constants that even he doesn't understand. Or even wrong Google Graphs charts. In my opinion, the most correct to do... We have several Clans, but only 2 sides, correct? Have a balancing team with each Pro on each class, on each side. Why? 1- Avoid the opinion of people who have 0 understanding about the class. (ex: Everyone who plays shares this opinion, how can anyone know more about Archer than Kryon?); 2- Avoid the "attack between Clans". (ex: Well, the Clan X that I hate has 20 Pikes, so I will log out and create N topics to nerf Pike, to weaken this Clan); 3- Make the game healthier. (ex: If Staff started listening to Ata, Archer and Mage players to give their opinion on their own classes, without the need for giant topics about it, surely these 3 classes would not be literally dead now); [PS: I was heard, Archer had improvements at the time and Archer's community helped a lot, but not all players speaks english, or even use Forums. We have 2 active Atas on higher levels, the Ata community is small, how they can get a descent class again?]; 4- Decrease snowball between Clans. This is for anyone who understands about Siege War. (ex: It’s already more than evident that the weaker AoE Skills, the greater impact of Level, Items & Aging, right? With each nerf that AoE Skills take, we realize that Clans that have less Level, Items & Aging falls more and more in rank of the dispute. That discourages anyone; 5- Always attracts new players. (ex: Currently 30% of classes have no impact on any vector of the game due to constant nerfs; That is, the newest players who choose 1 of these 3 classes out of 10 that the game offers, will be discouraged by simply having 0 impact on everything they do.) The current PvP is already balanced in general terms. Just include the 3 dead classes again due to the severe nerfs... Every change made without thinking, just based on ideas without any logical sense, will only unbalance the game more and more. Wartale is much more than hearing random opinions about balancing, it is much more than the will of X number of people. Wartale is a unique and fantastic game, but unfortunately it has been losing its essence due to all this. Today we only have 7 classes to play, next week it could only be 5. =^---^= Player who wants to give an opinion on PVP being that they are more than 1 year without participating in any war in the PVP. (you know who I'm talking about, right?) It's like I want to give my opinion about PVE, since I don't participate in it. If they were impartial opinions, we would see with possible suggestions to balance KS in the PVP. As we know KS is and has always been among the most broken classes in this PVP game. You can tank 4 to 8 players and still kill with 1 hand. But this is never discussed honestly. Is it because the person likes the class? So this is not wanting to help the game, but thinking about your own interest. Everyone knows that the person's clan (WS/LB) does RMT, boost, steal, etc. But just because he was kicked by his old Clan (SN), he tries to defame him in every way. Another thing I would like to make clear, the first clan to use the Clan swap method was LB / WS. It was denounced and nothing was done, because "there were no rules". Why didn't the player cry when the abuse started? Did he only come here to make a case when SN started using the same benefit? So this is clear to me, that it is not an attempt to help the game, but to think only of your own interest and also the interest of the clan. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Merenda 692 Report post Posted August 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, Sananda said: Player who wants to give an opinion on PVP being that they are more than 1 year without participating in any war in the PVP. (you know who I'm talking about, right?) It's like I want to give my opinion about PVE, since I don't participate in it. If they were impartial opinions, we would see with possible suggestions to balance KS in the PVP. As we know KS is and has always been among the most broken classes in this PVP game. You can tank 4 to 8 players and still kill with 1 hand. But this is never discussed honestly. Is it because the person likes the class? So this is not wanting to help the game, but thinking about your own interest. Everyone knows that the person's clan (WS/LB) does RMT, boost, steal, etc. But just because he was kicked by his old Clan (SN), he tries to defame him in every way. Another thing I would like to make clear, the first clan to use the Clan swap method was LB / WS. It was denounced and nothing was done, because "there were no rules". Why didn't the player cry when the abuse started? Did he only come here to make a case when SN started using the same benefit? So this is clear to me, that it is not an attempt to help the game, but to think only of your own interest and also the interest of the clan. I'm here to improve my class Wartale! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sananda 565 Report post Posted August 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, Merenda said: I'm here to improve my class Wartale! Funny, the impartiality is so great that it even denied a BUG of the KS skill for SW. But the BUG was so clear, that Staff adjusted it. (So BUG did exist, right? Or did Staff get something that didn't exist?) And again, the person denied reality to benefit the class itself. 6 hours ago, Moussi7 said: Guy LB will never die we had 25 ppl online cause our clan have alot of PPL that got a Life outside the Game. Its Summer. Just wait ^^ This summer of yours has been going on for 3 years now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mjizzy_7 1,898 Report post Posted August 5, 2020 5 hours ago, Sananda said: Funny, the impartiality is so great that it even denied a BUG of the KS skill for SW. But the BUG was so clear, that Staff adjusted it. (So BUG did exist, right? Or did Staff get something that didn't exist?) And again, the person denied reality to benefit the class itself. This summer of yours has been going on for 3 years now. Its called " having Real life " ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sananda 565 Report post Posted August 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Moussi7 said: Its called " having Real life " ? I call the excuse of a loser 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mjizzy_7 1,898 Report post Posted August 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, Sananda said: I call the excuse of a loser Toxic Player ? 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
z0r 68 Report post Posted August 5, 2020 tldr please Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sananda 565 Report post Posted August 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Moussi7 said: Jogador tóxico ? you are no good example in the game and here to call someone toxic. ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sananda 565 Report post Posted August 5, 2020 my draxos can pay char 157 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mjizzy_7 1,898 Report post Posted August 6, 2020 9 hours ago, Sananda said: my draxos can pay char 157 ToxicSanada 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dookie 489 Report post Posted August 6, 2020 All i can see in this thread is "HATE from each other" ? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Potetenn 55 Report post Posted August 8, 2020 On 8/3/2020 at 8:50 PM, Morty said: New crown for 4th place siege war with 1% dmg. ?? Now that was funny, not gonna lie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites