What are the next "experiments" for Siege War?

[Soijyro 80]

Just now, DarkLink64 said:

Changing to the strongegst class / AoE spamming isn't strategy / spamming reconnect aren't strategies... Unless if you consider abusing exploits as a legit strategy.

U are the one saying it ... And cause ur side won today, u are defending the changes. But i hope staff never take you seriously, cause you have some serious problems. 

[Merenda 693]

6 minutes ago, Soijyro said:

U are the one saying it ... And cause ur side won today, u are defending the changes. But i hope staff never take you seriously, cause you have some serious problems. 

Don't worry about that kkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

 

btw, ggwp! ❤️

Edited November 15, 2020 by Merenda

[Clem 1,241]

Hello, 

I personally think that it’s better ATM without AOE damage for some reasons that I already mentioned : 

 

During SW, there are a lot of players, and when some players use AOE, it attack all of them since we are all on the same spot —> hard to survive (even more for low lvl).

-It will help lvl 14x 15x to going SW, because they are the one that get easy killed by the AOE damage. 

-Every class have a 1x1 skills to go BC (even mage & they improve death ray before doing this test) 

 

BUT, I can understand that it can be less fun to go BC for some players bcoz they can feel it’s less strategic since they don’t have AOE skills to use. But well, is it strategic to use AOE on everyone & even allies ? I doubt so. 

IF in the future they can set up a «  clan allies » system so that allies don’t get hitted by AOE & stun, I think it would be fair to bring back AOE skills in BC.

 

Thanks,

Clem.

Edited November 15, 2020 by Clem

[Merenda 693]

Stuns & Pets to avoid clicking.

[DarkLink64 921]

1 hour ago, Soijyro said:

U are the one saying it ... And cause ur side won today, u are defending the changes. But i hope staff never take you seriously, cause you have some serious problems. 

Hm, the Staff took me seriously for many times over the past 10 years.

[-[Grin][Department]- 115]

2 hours ago, Seog said:

Those who cry for so many changes on the server are yous, not us! We just adapt, everything is a matter of time.

Give me a profound proof “to the changes” so that i can give you my account and play it!

I thought you guys have always the best strategy and plan when it comes to SW??? That’s what you always proclaim here in form. Go ask merenda the attention seeker she will give you some useless and nonsense idea!

 

and you know why your allied clan lose and your clan lose to defend and give it to them? Check the number of players and count them! Heads up, don’t always whine here for a nonsense about your AOE damage or about it’s very quick to end! Because it is totally nonsense!

[Soijyro 80]

1 hour ago, DarkLink64 said:

Hm, the Staff took me seriously for many times over the past 10 years.

Now i know why the server used to be good 10 years ago and now it's not doing so well.

[DarkLink64 921]

29 minutes ago, Soijyro said:

Now i know why the server used to be good 10 years ago and now it's not doing so well.

You could be taken seriously but, clicking on your profile it displays 2019. 

So, my question:

Why you didn't joined in 2009, where it was good, and just at 2019 and still playing, where it was already "bad" in your terms?

[Soijyro 80]

Just now, DarkLink64 said:

You could be taken seriously but, clicking on your profile it displays 2019. 

So, my question:

Why you didn't joined in 2009, where it was good, and just at 2019 and still playing, where it was already "bad" in your terms?

I'm just not using old profiles (email changes). Is this the best deduction your average IQ can achieve? 

 

"U can't be old cause this profile has joined in 2019". Is this the only option? Or the option that suits to you?

 

You really are a joke DL... U see yourself as "smart guy". Don't be silly... You have been a joke (a bad one) in this server for many years. But as they say out there : "self esteem is everything". 

 

 

[DarkLink64 921]

32 minutes ago, Soijyro said:

I'm just not using old profiles (email changes). Is this the best deduction your average IQ can achieve? 

 

"U can't be old cause this profile has joined in 2019". Is this the only option? Or the option that suits to you?

 

You really are a joke DL... U see yourself as "smart guy". Don't be silly... You have been a joke (a bad one) in this server for many years. But as they say out there : "self esteem is everything". 

 

 

Okay, i'm a joke, i'm x, i'm y.

However, i'm a joke, i'm x, i'm y, to the likes of SN KOM and MIB, not for the community as you believe.

What the likes of you has to say is literally irrelevant and will remain irrelevant forever. This thread proves why. You can talk whatever the crap you want to me, it is irrelevant.

The history has told us:

Every change made by the Wartale Staff that was heavily criticized by SoNois and KOM, was a good change. Every. Single. One. And all changes were related to fixing common exploits, bug abuse or even cheating.

Triple SiegeWar Crown - SN (BH) and KOM were against it.
Implementation of anti bot/macro/autoclick - SN and KOM were against it.
Removal of SecretLab HS - SN and KOM were against it.
Loot loto - SN, KOM and all minor alliances to both clans were against it.
Nerfing on AutoMS in SS - SN and KOM were against.
Member switching before Siege War penalty - SN and KOM were against.
Party-only exclusive regen on Priestess Regeneration Field - SN and KOM were against.
Removal of PvP champion to counter PVP Boosting - SN and KOM were against.
Peforation halved damage from Archer (just like many other AoE skills) - SN and KOM were against.
Diastrophism halved damage from Magician (just like many other AoE skills) - SN and KOM were against.
Proper balance on Orb's Defense - SN and KOM were against.
Weekly tweaks to find good balance on PvP Ratios - SN and KOM were against



So, if there is any experiment done on the game where just SoNois and KOM talks crap about, it DEFINITELY means the experiment was good, done on the right direction.

So, @Wartale, @Senpai and @Support, keep on with experimental changes. If any member of said clan keep hating, offending or being toxic against the new changes, just ignore and keep going on.

Remember, we're deep down on the scary path!

It's easy to ignore all babling done by SoNois and KoM members, because they do not play Wartale for fun. They play Wartale to practice Real Money Trading, selling exp service, items and accounts for real BRL money. It's not like SN and KOM on it's majority has any kind of healthy relevance to the server.

Edited November 15, 2020 by DarkLink64

[Soijyro 80]

17 hours ago, Merenda said:

 

imo no, this ruins the concept of war.

 

Negative points:

 

- Stuns 24/7

- Untargetable characters especially in Valhalla

- Characters hiding on Pets (especially autoMS, he's squishy when you can hit him)

- Enemies ignoring each other to attack the same tower

 

About the positive points, honestly I didn't find out. Maybe lower levels don't die by collateral damage of AoE skills in Valhalla.

Yes this is the point!

 

Doesn't matter the side you are... Things are exactly as you are saying. If the SW lasted 20 minutes, considering the battle time outside the castle plus  the knocking down of the gate plus the time to move  from one tower to another, it took much less than 20 minutes to bring down all the castle towers. This is not a war, it is not a match. The concept of war was destroyed only so that structures were knocked down as quickly as possible with a focus on scoring. 

[DarkLink64 921]

2 minutes ago, Soijyro said:

Yes this is the point!

 

Doesn't matter the side you are... Things are exactly as you are saying. If the SW lasted 20 minutes, considering the battle time outside the castle plus  the knocking down of the gate plus the time to move  from one tower to another, it took much less than 20 minutes to bring down all the castle towers. This is not a war, it is not a match. The concept of war was destroyed only so that structures were knocked down as quickly as possible with a focus on scoring. 

If you guys had won, you wouldn't be crying over overreacting to the 20 minutes stuff. I'm sure about that.

[Soijyro 80]

1 minute ago, DarkLink64 said:

Okay, i'm a joke, i'm x, i'm y.

However, i'm a joke, i'm x, i'm y, to the likes of SN KOM and MIB, not for the community as you believe.

However, what the likes of you has to say is literally irrelevant and will remain irrelevant forever. This thread proves why.

Whether or not someone likes an X or Y side as you are saying, it doesn't matter. You are here defending a change that generated a 20 minute SW where there was no dispute, because there was not even time for that. Only structures to be knocked down. And all this, because your side was the one who won today.

 

And this is where the "joke resides", because you have a partial, irrational stance on something important that you cannot get away from because you are involved and, in this case, benefited.

[DarkLink64 921]

Just now, Soijyro said:

Whether or not someone likes an X or Y side as you are saying, it doesn't matter. You are here defending a change that generated a 20 minute SW where there was no dispute, because there was not even time for that. Only structures to be knocked down. And all this, because your side was the one who won today.

 

And this is where the "joke resides", because you have a partial, irrational stance on something important that you cannot get away from because you are involved and, in this case, benefited.

Give. It. Up. When you're able to counter-argument this, you'll be relevant.

The history has told us:

Every change made by the Wartale Staff that was heavily criticized by SoNois and KOM, was a good change. Every. Single. One. And all changes were related to fixing common exploits, bug abuse or even cheating.

Triple SiegeWar Crown - SN (BH) and KOM were against it.
Implementation of anti bot/macro/autoclick - SN and KOM were against it.
Removal of SecretLab HS - SN and KOM were against it.
Loot loto - SN, KOM and all minor alliances to both clans were against it.
Nerfing on AutoMS in SS - SN and KOM were against.
Member switching before Siege War penalty - SN and KOM were against.
Party-only exclusive regen on Priestess Regeneration Field - SN and KOM were against.
Removal of PvP champion to counter PVP Boosting - SN and KOM were against.
Peforation halved damage from Archer (just like many other AoE skills) - SN and KOM were against.
Diastrophism halved damage from Magician (just like many other AoE skills) - SN and KOM were against.
Proper balance on Orb's Defense - SN and KOM were against.
Weekly tweaks to find good balance on PvP Ratios - SN and KOM were against



So, if there is any experiment done on the game where just SoNois and KOM talks crap about, it DEFINITELY means the experiment was good, done on the right direction.

So, @Wartale, @Senpai and @Support, keep on with experimental changes. If any member of said clan keep hating, offending or being toxic against the new changes, just ignore and keep going on.

Remember, we're deep down on the scary path!

It's easy to ignore all babling done by SoNois and KoM members, because they do not play Wartale for fun. They play Wartale to practice Real Money Trading, selling exp service, items and accounts for real BRL money. It's not like SN and KOM on it's majority has any kind of healthy relevance to the server.

 

[Soijyro 80]

1 minute ago, DarkLink64 said:

If you guys had won, you wouldn't be crying over overreacting to the 20 minutes stuff. I'm sure about that.

You guys? 

 

Im not from any side i was there today, for fun, clanless. 

 

How old are you son? Where did this "crying over" come from? It seems that the doors of the 10-year-old boys' class opened.

[DarkLink64 921]

@Soijyro I believe I'm playing the VERY SAME SERVER, CLIENT AND BALANCE AS YOU. So, how I've been benefited?

Are you implying the Staff is deliberately helping us? If so, how?

Care to explain and show evidence. Crying and whining aren't valid arguments.
 

Edited November 15, 2020 by DarkLink64

[Molaxx 354]

20 hours ago, Senpai said:

Should we do another SW like it? I need to decide but this topics seem to be about which form is government is better ?

 

Omg... why you dont buff mage to kill hard in 1x1 in SW/BC... Bro,i'm so sorry,but its ending my dreans and my good night to sleep. Omg.... only buff this class for Jesus Cristo. 

 

My opinion.

[Soijyro 80]

1 minute ago, DarkLink64 said:

Give. It. Up. When you're able to counter-argument this, you'll be relevant.

The history has told us:

Every change made by the Wartale Staff that was heavily criticized by SoNois and KOM, was a good change. Every. Single. One. And all changes were related to fixing common exploits, bug abuse or even cheating.

Triple SiegeWar Crown - SN (BH) and KOM were against it.
Implementation of anti bot/macro/autoclick - SN and KOM were against it.
Removal of SecretLab HS - SN and KOM were against it.
Loot loto - SN, KOM and all minor alliances to both clans were against it.
Nerfing on AutoMS in SS - SN and KOM were against.
Member switching before Siege War penalty - SN and KOM were against.
Party-only exclusive regen on Priestess Regeneration Field - SN and KOM were against.
Removal of PvP champion to counter PVP Boosting - SN and KOM were against.
Peforation halved damage from Archer (just like many other AoE skills) - SN and KOM were against.
Diastrophism halved damage from Magician (just like many other AoE skills) - SN and KOM were against.
Proper balance on Orb's Defense - SN and KOM were against.
Weekly tweaks to find good balance on PvP Ratios - SN and KOM were against



So, if there is any experiment done on the game where just SoNois and KOM talks crap about, it DEFINITELY means the experiment was good, done on the right direction.

So, @Wartale, @Senpai and @Support, keep on with experimental changes. If any member of said clan keep hating, offending or being toxic against the new changes, just ignore and keep going on.

Remember, we're deep down on the scary path!

It's easy to ignore all babling done by SoNois and KoM members, because they do not play Wartale for fun. They play Wartale to practice Real Money Trading, selling exp service, items and accounts for real BRL money. It's not like SN and KOM on it's majority has any kind of healthy relevance to the server.

 

You must think that the staff in this game is made up of idiots with this ridiculous attempt to manipulate them.

 

what arrogance ...

[DarkLink64 921]

2 minutes ago, Soijyro said:

You must think that the staff in this game is made up of idiots with this ridiculous attempt to manipulate them.

 

what arrogance ...

This is whining, not a valid argument. Stick to the point and answer my question.

 

4 minutes ago, DarkLink64 said:

@Soijyro I believe I'm playing the VERY SAME SERVER, CLIENT AND BALANCE AS YOU. So, how I've been benefited?

 

Edited November 15, 2020 by DarkLink64

[Soijyro 80]

1 minute ago, DarkLink64 said:

@Soijyro I believe I'm playing the VERY SAME SERVER, CLIENT AND BALANCE AS YOU. So, how I've been benefited?

Are you implying the Staff is deliberately helping us? If so, how?

Care to explain and show evidence. Crying and whining aren't valid arguments.
 

I do not believe the staff is helping anyone! Im not the one who said that ... I just think the SW the way it was today was not a war. If SN/KOM are saying it it is this is a stupid argument, just as if you or your clan members do, it will be too.

 

 

Just now, DarkLink64 said:

This is whining, not a valid argument. Stick to the point and answer my question.

 

 

No it is not. You are a manipulator ... And also dear, it is not you here who dictates the rules to affirm what is or is not valid. Spoiled child...

[DarkLink64 921]

My my.

Just like the marmita, you're just another irrelevant prick that loves to talk big and act smart, yet failing to build a reasonable argument.

I never defended 20 minutes Siege War. To be honest, I never said anything nor gave any feedback about latest SW tweakss in a public media. The important stuff is done on different channels that aren't for the likes of ya.

All I've said is: If you guys had won under 20 minutes siege war, you wouldn't be talking crap about that. And that's true.

You, and every SN/KOM/MIB member, on his forum, just simply failed to answer:


I believe I'm playing the VERY SAME SERVER, CLIENT AND BALANCE AS YOU. So, how I've been benefited?

Are you implying the Staff is deliberately helping us? If so, how?

Care to explain and show evidence. Crying and whining aren't valid arguments.

Edited November 15, 2020 by DarkLink64

[Soijyro 80]

1 minute ago, DarkLink64 said:

My my.

Just like the marmita, you're just another irrelevant prick that loves to talk big and act smart, yet failing to build a reasonable argument.

I never defended 20 minutes Siege War. To be honest, I never said anything nor gave any feedback about latest SW tweakss in a public media. The important stuff is done on different channels that aren't for the likes of ya.

All I've said is: If you guys had won under 20 minutes siege war, you wouldn't be talking crap about that. And that's true.

You, and every SN/KOM/MIB member, on his forum, just simply failed to answer:


I believe I'm playing the VERY SAME SERVER, CLIENT AND BALANCE AS YOU. So, how I've been benefited?

Are you implying the Staff is deliberately helping us? If so, how?

Care to explain and show evidence. Crying and whining aren't valid arguments.

K DL u are delusional. We are done! 

[DarkLink64 921]

1 minute ago, Soijyro said:

K DL u are delusional. We are done! 

Keep barking bro, you'll keep irrelevant, arguments does matter hhere, not personal offense

[Seog 114]

3 hours ago, -[Grin][Department]- said:

Give me a profound proof “to the changes” so that i can give you my account and play it!

I thought you guys have always the best strategy and plan when it comes to SW??? That’s what you always proclaim here in form. Go ask merenda the attention seeker she will give you some useless and nonsense idea!

 

and you know why your allied clan lose and your clan lose to defend and give it to them? Check the number of players and count them! Heads up, don’t always whine here for a nonsense about your AOE damage or about it’s very quick to end! Because it is totally nonsense!

I will not contradict, I think you have problems.
Just celebrate a lot for as long as it lasts! As I said, we always adapt. Now tell me what it's like to have fun in a 20 min sw. ??? In fact, no area damage was applied, the 50% area damage did not happen. But no problem, we know how to lose and we are ready to continue the game! Your guys needed a victory and it happened, I just hope that the EXPERIMENTS will end now, right? Yous won! Look how exciting, so much that as I said before, it felt like the end of the world cup in chat trade !!!

1 hour ago, DarkLink64 said:

Give. It. Up. When you're able to counter-argument this, you'll be relevant.

The history has told us:

Every change made by the Wartale Staff that was heavily criticized by SoNois and KOM, was a good change. Every. Single. One. And all changes were related to fixing common exploits, bug abuse or even cheating.

Triple SiegeWar Crown - SN (BH) and KOM were against it.
Implementation of anti bot/macro/autoclick - SN and KOM were against it.
Removal of SecretLab HS - SN and KOM were against it.
Loot loto - SN, KOM and all minor alliances to both clans were against it.
Nerfing on AutoMS in SS - SN and KOM were against.
Member switching before Siege War penalty - SN and KOM were against.
Party-only exclusive regen on Priestess Regeneration Field - SN and KOM were against.
Removal of PvP champion to counter PVP Boosting - SN and KOM were against.
Peforation halved damage from Archer (just like many other AoE skills) - SN and KOM were against.
Diastrophism halved damage from Magician (just like many other AoE skills) - SN and KOM were against.
Proper balance on Orb's Defense - SN and KOM were against.
Weekly tweaks to find good balance on PvP Ratios - SN and KOM were against



So, if there is any experiment done on the game where just SoNois and KOM talks crap about, it DEFINITELY means the experiment was good, done on the right direction.

So, @Wartale, @Senpai and @Support, keep on with experimental changes. If any member of said clan keep hating, offending or being toxic against the new changes, just ignore and keep going on.

Remember, we're deep down on the scary path!

It's easy to ignore all babling done by SoNois and KoM members, because they do not play Wartale for fun. They play Wartale to practice Real Money Trading, selling exp service, items and accounts for real BRL money. It's not like SN and KOM on it's majority has any kind of healthy relevance to the server.

 

CTRL C

CTRL V

 

Amazing!!!!

Edited November 15, 2020 by Seog

[Senpai 839]

Today it was at 50% AoE damage as I put in the notice (old way was 100%, last week was 0%). WS showed up with 50%+ more members than KOM, so makes sense to me they won? We would never help clans in any secret or specific way, that's lame AF. We just adjust these parameters to create a fun SW that isn't relying on having 5 AoE characters being better than 30 Melee's in Siege War. I personally like having AoE skills in Siege War, just not in that way. Unfortunately I had to miss today's SW having to catch up with some stuff due to us having been very busy past week finishing Brawler. I will be there again next SW to watch live.