ADONIS 0 Report post Posted August 12, 2011 Anyone can see that some Mods/Admin in server is acting with tirany against some players and this is revolting almost everybody. I guess that we dont need to have to inflate our Ego this server will enter in colapse if things continue this way if someone think that will be good acting this way i cant do nothing but i just say one thing jusy watch BPT and you wwll see the RPT future please stop vanity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crius 0 Report post Posted August 12, 2011 When, where, how and who? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ADONIS 0 Report post Posted August 12, 2011 Gms that lock topics in their like (i saw Wartale most time), and the players that get Ban is Gogg, Fuel and many others, i saw tirany in their Ban (almost everyone saw) and have still the case that players that get unban for hacking and any GM say nothing about it (realy disapointing). Clear now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeHandsome 1 Report post Posted August 12, 2011 I don't see this sever collapsing at all and see the complete opposite thing. More players = more conflicts and people are losing territory because of new players, and they can't seem to handle that in a mature way. Which topics did I close and shouldn't have been closed according to you? Gogg and Fuel got banned/muted for insulting others, staff members and the server. About the hacking cases, they have been answered numerous of times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
L 711 Report post Posted August 12, 2011 If u say that the staff is doing something wrong, u'll be banned. If u say that the staff is a perfect thing, they're doing a good job, bla bla bla, u'll be their friends, protected by them, maybe on the future a moderator. Thats all, guess why im not posting on this forum anymore Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury 0 Report post Posted August 12, 2011 ADONIS; Fuel is not banned? When was that? He got muted for the reasons stated by Wartale above. Unban for hacking? Where, when, how and who? as Crius pointed out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
L 711 Report post Posted August 12, 2011 ADONIS; Fuel is not banned? When was that? He got muted for the reasons stated by Wartale above. Unban for hacking? Where, when, how and who? as Crius pointed out KingKnight used hacker, then got unbanned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeHandsome 1 Report post Posted August 12, 2011 If u say that the staff is doing something wrong, u'll be banned. If u say that the staff is a perfect thing, they're doing a good job, bla bla bla, u'll be their friends, protected by them, maybe on the future a moderator. Thats all, guess why im not posting on this forum anymore 1. You won't get banned for saying that the staff is doing something wrong. You will get banned if you insult the staff. 2. If you just whine and complaint the hell out, then your reputation will drop (according to me), but if you try to solve and remedy problems in a constructive and helping way, then you will gain reputation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury 0 Report post Posted August 12, 2011 ADONIS; Fuel is not banned? When was that? He got muted for the reasons stated by Wartale above. Unban for hacking? Where, when, how and who? as Crius pointed out KingKnight used hacker, then got unbanned. Oh hello. KingKnight was never banned for hacking, he was banned for running a software called Cheat Engine simultaneously withwtand later unbanned, given a second chance because he actually acquired nothing. Come again? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crius 0 Report post Posted August 12, 2011 Honestly, being a moderator is severely overrated. In many cases, if you're the type to want it, you're also the type that shouldn't get it. I can't really tell if it's all that bad here, since there's only a few cases mentioned here and I haven't really noticed anything out of the ordinary. For instance, Gogg getting banned doesn't come as a big surprise; not that I had anything particular against him or anything, but he did have an attitude. I don't know how he was as a moderator, but I wouldn't have picked him to represent me at least. Perhaps I missed all of his numerous redeeming qualities and am not being fair, but I can't really base an opinion on what I don't know. What I do know is that being a moderator or admin for a community is not great job. People argue with you over anything and everything, no matter how trivial. They seem to know a great deal more about what you do than you do yourself. Oh, and every last one of them is apparently a fully educated lawyer. Trust me, it gets old. If the guys here want to have rules against insulting the staff, I fully understand why. Personally I wouldn't have, for the exact reason that even if it's disruptive behavior, you invite accusations of bias and abuse if you do something about it (maybe you're right, but... Exhibit A, Your Honor). That was my policy a long time ago in a place far away; you can insult me as much as you want, but if you do it to others, you're going down. Guess I should throw in a point here or something... I know there will be decisions regarding how the staff manage the community that you disagree with, and that's fine. I assume the people here can handle being criticized in a reasonably polite manner (at least I have yet to see evidence to the contrary). I'd probably have been banned already otherwise. Don't make sweeping accusations; I can guarantee you that nothing will change if you can't point out what was done wrong beyond "they are really mean to me" or similar (unless of course it was a specific case of one person actually being mean to you, I guess). One especially annoying thing to do, at least as I saw it, was when people who had no real knowledge of what happened insisted on getting involved. That doesn't apply to all cases of course, but the claim that someone was banned for "no reason" is ridiculous unless you are that person, and if not, that person can defend him/herself. If you have a complaint and express it in a constructive manner, maybe they will listen if you have a valid point. If you insult or throw around profanity, I dare promise you that it won't matter whether you are right or not. However, you also have to understand that it's not as easy as it looks. Being a moderator is a thankless job for the most part, and you don't have an unlimited time to spend on making a decision that in most cases really shouldn't be a big deal even if you screw it up. Cut them some slack and relax. If the community is nice to the moderators even during disagreements, they are far more likely to be nice right back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
newaccount 0 Report post Posted August 12, 2011 Could someone tell me why am I (tommylizard) muted ? Been 5 days already and I don't even know what I did Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeHandsome 1 Report post Posted August 12, 2011 1. You won't get banned for saying that the staff is doing something wrong. You will get banned if you insult the staff. 2. If you just whine and complaint the hell out, then your reputation will drop (according to me), but if you try to solve and remedy problems in a constructive and helping way, then you will gain reputation. Gogg was not trying to help? Correct, but he was also unable to control himself. He has had plenty of chances, but he wasted one after the other. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dohkito 0 Report post Posted August 12, 2011 ADONIS; Fuel is not banned? When was that? He got muted for the reasons stated by Wartale above. Unban for hacking? Where, when, how and who? as Crius pointed out KingKnight used hacker, then got unbanned. Oh hello. KingKnight was never banned for hacking, he was banned for running a software called Cheat Engine simultaneously withwtand later unbanned, given a second chance because he actually acquired nothing. Come again? LOL. IF run cheat engine withwtisnt hack, really idk what hell is hack anymore... The problem isnt give second chances, the point is the 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th... Permanent ban = nothing for hackers, looks the case of kitkid ! OMG i got a warning today just because i put a SS of he walking in atlantis today... Serious, why so many permanent ban is unbanned? Dont make any sense to me, a server with great stuffs IN GAME, going down with something to stupid like that ! RPT's staff isnt JESUS or GOD, so, dont need forgive all the ppl ! Keep the permanent banned char, BANNED. Also, we have other problem now, idk who if is all the staff or just one guy, but, staff is twisting the rules in their favor.Where are in rules that post an SS is in the gardem of freedom is break the rules ? is something too bad for deserve a " warning" ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ADONIS 0 Report post Posted August 12, 2011 Look guys there is a case that insult my inteligence the case of KITKID AND DOCTORPOISON, they got unbaned, i dont even know why and i cant find the topic that unbaned (i hope that is not underground). I dont know Gogg or Fuel, i know that sometimes they passed the limit (they are human) but have a reason for that, the cases of unban make lot of people disapointed (the rules mean nothing? I saw a lot o videos of kitkid immortal in BC) and hackers with a lot of report and nobody do nothing (i om not wrong have a rule in RPT that say about a lot reports make the reported take ban) please lets be more human (think about the good players) or treat anyone in rigor of law (no exceptions for no one, oe rule for all no mercy). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury 0 Report post Posted August 12, 2011 Could someone tell me why am I (tommylizard) muted ? Been 5 days already and I don't even know what I did Insulting Staff/Server by Wartale. Your mute expires tomorrow. ADONIS; Fuel is not banned? When was that? He got muted for the reasons stated by Wartale above. Unban for hacking? Where, when, how and who? as Crius pointed out KingKnight used hacker, then got unbanned. Oh hello. KingKnight was never banned for hacking, he was banned for running a software called Cheat Engine simultaneously withwtand later unbanned, given a second chance because he actually acquired nothing. Come again? LOL. IF run cheat engine isnt hack, really idk what hell is hack anymore... The problem isnt give second chances, the point is the 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th... Permanent ban = nothing for hackers, looks the case od kitkid ! OMG i got a warning today just because i put a SS of he walking in atlantis today... Serious, why so many permanent ban is unbanned? Dont make any sense to me, a server with great stuffs IN GAME, going down with something to stupid like that ! RPT's staff isnt JESUS or GOD, so, dont need forgive all the ppl ! Keep the permanent banned char, BANNED. ty! Do you even know what hack means? Please goggle it and then come back or if you really just like shouting and never learning you can press this link: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=hack+definition How many chars do you think have gotten a 3rd chance? Well, look at it this way: If I was to permanently ban you right now for nothing at all. Would you think that is fair? Do you think that you deserve a "second chance"? According to your previous post you should stay permanently banned, no matter what. (I think You get what I am talking about now?) Believe it or not, we in the staff make mistakes sometimes and then we feel that its nice of us to correct those. What you are suggesting is that we dont. You suggest us to become a tyranny and never listen to our players. I guess that mistake is on me then. Wont listen to you again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury 0 Report post Posted August 12, 2011 Look guys there is a case that insult my inteligence the case of KITKID AND DOCTORPOISON, they got unbaned, i dont even know why and i cant find the topic that unbaned (i hope that is not underground). I dont know Gogg or Fuel, i know that sometimes they passed the limit (they are human) but have a reason for that, the cases of unban make lot of people disapointed (the rules mean nothing? I saw a lot o videos of kitkid immortal in BC) and hackers with a lot of report and nobody do nothing (i om not wrong have a rule in RPT that say about a lot reports make the reported take ban) please lets be more human (think about the good players) or treat anyone in rigor of law (no exceptions for no one, oe rule for all no mercy). They both got banned ( along with a lot of other players) because of a minor bug in our anticheat-system which sandurr found the other day. When he found the bug he unbanned them, simple as that. As far as your theory of lag abuse goes I can tell you something. On the lag abuse reports it was not uncommon that it was the reporter who lagged the most and therefore it appeared that others lagged as well. Everyone has to follow the rules of conduct (that is why they are there). No exceptions is our goal. Unfortunately mistakes and misunderstandings happen but we always try to correct those. We strive to be fair against everyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crius 0 Report post Posted August 12, 2011 Look guys there is a case that insult my inteligence the case of KITKID AND DOCTORPOISON, they got unbaned, i dont even know why and i cant find the topic that unbaned (i hope that is not underground). I dont know Gogg or Fuel, i know that sometimes they passed the limit (they are human) but have a reason for that, the cases of unban make lot of people disapointed (the rules mean nothing? I saw a lot o videos of kitkid immortal in BC) and hackers with a lot of report and nobody do nothing (i om not wrong have a rule in RPT that say about a lot reports make the reported take ban) please lets be more human (think about the good players) or treat anyone in rigor of law (no exceptions for no one, oe rule for all no mercy). If you don't know why the were unbanned, and presumably have limited knowledge of why they were banned in the first place, how can you know that it was not the right thing to do? You don't know what happened and neither do I, only the those who banned, unbanned and were banned does. I'm not saying you're necessarily wrong, but you really don't have a lot of information to go on, and certainly not enough to draw that kind of conclusion. Edit: Huh. No check for new posts with quick reply, apparently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dohkito 0 Report post Posted August 12, 2011 Could someone tell me why am I (tommylizard) muted ? Been 5 days already and I don't even know what I did Insulting Staff/Server by Wartale. Your mute expires tomorrow. ADONIS; Fuel is not banned? When was that? He got muted for the reasons stated by Wartale above. Unban for hacking? Where, when, how and who? as Crius pointed out KingKnight used hacker, then got unbanned. Oh hello. KingKnight was never banned for hacking, he was banned for running a software called Cheat Engine simultaneously withwtand later unbanned, given a second chance because he actually acquired nothing. Come again? LOL. IF run cheat engine isnt hack, really idk what hell is hack anymore... The problem isnt give second chances, the point is the 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th... Permanent ban = nothing for hackers, looks the case od kitkid ! OMG i got a warning today just because i put a SS of he walking in atlantis today... Serious, why so many permanent ban is unbanned? Dont make any sense to me, a server with great stuffs IN GAME, going down with something to stupid like that ! RPT's staff isnt JESUS or GOD, so, dont need forgive all the ppl ! Keep the permanent banned char, BANNED. ty! Do you even know what hack means? Please goggle it and then come back or if you really just like shouting and never learning you can press this link: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=hack+definition How many chars do you think have gotten a 3rd chance? Well, look at it this way: If I was to permanently ban you right now for nothing at all. Would you think that is fair? Do you think that you deserve a "second chance"? According to your previous post you should stay permanently banned, no matter what. (I think You get what I am talking about now?) Believe it or not, we in the staff make mistakes sometimes and then we feel that its nice of us to correct those. What you are suggesting is that we dont. You suggest us to become a tyranny and never listen to our players. I guess that mistake is on me then. Wont listen to you again OMG Mercury, dont insult my intelligence with U know what i trying to say abt cheat engine, be serious, man ! "(...)If I was to permanently ban you right now for nothing at all(...)" STOP ! If didnt anything wrong, why i get banned? "(...) Do you think that you deserve a "second chance"? According to your previous post you should stay permanently banned, no matter what.(...)" NO.i didnt understand me. I said, that the point isnt the 2nd chances, is the 3rd, 4th,5th... 2nd chance makes all the sense, but a 3rd,4th,5th ? NO. Do u think that's fair u play a lot turn a " zombie" in pc to get xp, and an hacker using cheat engine build something to add xp? and nothing happens with he ? YEAH SO MUCH FAIR.How do u fell abt it? Note, i edited my previous post and ur posted while i'm editing so, read it again please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dohkito 0 Report post Posted August 12, 2011 You should know RPT Anti Hack system is not perfect and it could mistake any software as a cheat engine, and I think this is the case why many people were banned for "cheat engine detected" and then unbanned. Even the anti virus softwares like Norton,Kasperky,...etc usually mistake something harmless as virus,malwares or trojan. Final words, don't be too sensitive about stuff that the staffs have done because they know what they do and if you know better than them, then feel free to apply for a position in the staff but who knows you will be accepted or not lol guy, what u think that i'm trying to do here? help. Many,known hackers get unban, so why ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TFSE Report post Posted August 12, 2011 Honestly, being a moderator is severely overrated. In many cases, if you're the type to want it, you're also the type that shouldn't get it. I can't really tell if it's all that bad here, since there's only a few cases mentioned here and I haven't really noticed anything out of the ordinary. For instance, Gogg getting banned doesn't come as a big surprise; not that I had anything particular against him or anything, but he did have an attitude. I don't know how he was as a moderator, but I wouldn't have picked him to represent me at least. Perhaps I missed all of his numerous redeeming qualities and am not being fair, but I can't really base an opinion on what I don't know. What I do know is that being a moderator or admin for a community is not great job. People argue with you over anything and everything, no matter how trivial. They seem to know a great deal more about what you do than you do yourself. Oh, and every last one of them is apparently a fully educated lawyer. Trust me, it gets old. If the guys here want to have rules against insulting the staff, I fully understand why. Personally I wouldn't have, for the exact reason that even if it's disruptive behavior, you invite accusations of bias and abuse if you do something about it (maybe you're right, but... Exhibit A, Your Honor). That was my policy a long time ago in a place far away; you can insult me as much as you want, but if you do it to others, you're going down. Guess I should throw in a point here or something... I know there will be decisions regarding how the staff manage the community that you disagree with, and that's fine. I assume the people here can handle being criticized in a reasonably polite manner (at least I have yet to see evidence to the contrary). I'd probably have been banned already otherwise. Don't make sweeping accusations; I can guarantee you that nothing will change if you can't point out what was done wrong beyond "they are really mean to me" or similar (unless of course it was a specific case of one person actually being mean to you, I guess). One especially annoying thing to do, at least as I saw it, was when people who had no real knowledge of what happened insisted on getting involved. That doesn't apply to all cases of course, but the claim that someone was banned for "no reason" is ridiculous unless you are that person, and if not, that person can defend him/herself. If you have a complaint and express it in a constructive manner, maybe they will listen if you have a valid point. If you insult or throw around profanity, I dare promise you that it won't matter whether you are right or not. However, you also have to understand that it's not as easy as it looks. Being a moderator is a thankless job for the most part, and you don't have an unlimited time to spend on making a decision that in most cases really shouldn't be a big deal even if you screw it up. Cut them some slack and relax. If the community is nice to the moderators even during disagreements, they are far more likely to be nice right back. People like you are the reason I'm still willing to be part of the staff on this server. It's pointless to argue though, because no matter how logical the 'other side' is, it only makes people believe in their own arguments more. Psychologically they've already got it into their heads that they can't possibly be wrong. After all, if they were wrong, then what was the point of all they were doing up until now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ADONIS 0 Report post Posted August 12, 2011 Look guys there is a case that insult my inteligence the case of KITKID AND DOCTORPOISON, they got unbaned, i dont even know why and i cant find the topic that unbaned (i hope that is not underground). I dont know Gogg or Fuel, i know that sometimes they passed the limit (they are human) but have a reason for that, the cases of unban make lot of people disapointed (the rules mean nothing? I saw a lot o videos of kitkid immortal in BC) and hackers with a lot of report and nobody do nothing (i om not wrong have a rule in RPT that say about a lot reports make the reported take ban) please lets be more human (think about the good players) or treat anyone in rigor of law (no exceptions for no one, oe rule for all no mercy). If you don't know why the were unbanned, and presumably have limited knowledge of why they were banned in the first place, how can you know that it was not the right thing to do? You don't know what happened and neither do I, only the those who banned, unbanned and were banned does. I'm not saying you're necessarily wrong, but you really don't have a lot of information to go on, and certainly not enough to draw that kind of conclusion. Edit: Huh. No check for new posts with quick reply, apparently. Man when i say that i dont know why they got unban i because that information was obscure (one more problem of server obscure informations that players cant acces but is crucia to clear misundertandings) i saw kitkid in videos and on BC in "ïmmortal mode", and kitkid get unban after unban that is very weird, the poor thing is that people says that is just "imagination" but dont try to look (or dont want) if it have a point of reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury 0 Report post Posted August 12, 2011 ADONIS; Fuel is not banned? When was that? He got muted for the reasons stated by Wartale above. Unban for hacking? Where, when, how and who? as Crius pointed out KingKnight used hacker, then got unbanned. Oh hello. KingKnight was never banned for hacking, he was banned for running a software called Cheat Engine simultaneously withwtand later unbanned, given a second chance because he actually acquired nothing. Come again? 1. LOL. IF run cheat engine withwtisnt hack, really idk what hell is hack anymore... 2. The problem isnt give second chances, the point is the 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th... 3. Permanent ban = nothing for hackers, looks the case of kitkid ! OMG i got a warning today just because i put a SS of he walking in atlantis today... Serious, why so many permanent ban is unbanned? Dont make any sense to me, a server with great stuffs IN GAME, going down with something to stupid like that ! RPT's staff isnt JESUS or GOD, so, dont need forgive all the ppl ! Keep the permanent banned char, BANNED. 4. Also, we have other problem now, idk who if is all the staff or just one guy, but, staff is twisting the rules in their favor.Where are in rules that post an SS is in the gardem of freedom is break the rules ? is something too bad for deserve a " warning" ? Answer to 1.: ADONIS; Fuel is not banned? When was that? He got muted for the reasons stated by Wartale above. Unban for hacking? Where, when, how and who? as Crius pointed out KingKnight used hacker, then got unbanned. Oh hello. KingKnight was never banned for hacking, he was banned for running a software called Cheat Engine simultaneously withwtand later unbanned, given a second chance because he actually acquired nothing. Come again? LOL. IF run cheat engine withwtisnt hack, really idk what hell is hack anymore... The problem isnt give second chances, the point is the 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th... Permanent ban = nothing for hackers, looks the case of kitkid ! OMG i got a warning today just because i put a SS of he walking in atlantis today... Serious, why so many permanent ban is unbanned? Dont make any sense to me, a server with great stuffs IN GAME, going down with something to stupid like that ! RPT's staff isnt JESUS or GOD, so, dont need forgive all the ppl ! Keep the permanent banned char, BANNED. Also, we have other problem now, idk who if is all the staff or just one guy, but, staff is twisting the rules in their favor.Where are in rules that post an SS is in the gardem of freedom is break the rules ? is something too bad for deserve a " warning" ? dictatorship. "I'll do whatahell u want, sir ! " You should know RPT Anti Hack system is not perfect and it could mistake any software as a cheat engine, and I think this is the case why many people were banned for "cheat engine detected" and then unbanned. Even the anti virus softwares like Norton,Kasperky,...etc usually mistake something harmless as virus,malwares or trojan. Final words, don't be too sensitive about stuff that the staffs have done because they know what they do and if you know better than them, then feel free to apply for a position in the staff but who knows you will be accepted or not lol Answer to 2.: How many has gotten 3rd, 4th, 5th and so on, chances? Hell, how many has gotten 3 chances? 3. is also already answered: Look guys there is a case that insult my inteligence the case of KITKID AND DOCTORPOISON, they got unbaned, i dont even know why and i cant find the topic that unbaned (i hope that is not underground). I dont know Gogg or Fuel, i know that sometimes they passed the limit (they are human) but have a reason for that, the cases of unban make lot of people disapointed (the rules mean nothing? I saw a lot o videos of kitkid immortal in BC) and hackers with a lot of report and nobody do nothing (i om not wrong have a rule in RPT that say about a lot reports make the reported take ban) please lets be more human (think about the good players) or treat anyone in rigor of law (no exceptions for no one, oe rule for all no mercy). They both got banned ( along with a lot of other players) because of a minor bug in our anticheat-system which sandurr found the other day. When he found the bug he unbanned them, simple as that. As far as your theory of lag abuse goes I can tell you something. On the lag abuse reports it was not uncommon that it was the reporter who lagged the most and therefore it appeared that others lagged as well. Everyone has to follow the rules of conduct (that is why they are there). No exceptions is our goal. Unfortunately mistakes and misunderstandings happen but we always try to correct those. We strive to be fair against everyone. 4. If you are referring to your own warning it was given due to Inappropriate Activity as you can see in your warning message. Would you like it if everyone in this server said that you where cheating when you were not? a. OMG Mercury, dont insult my intelligence with U know what i trying to say abt cheat engine, be serious, man ! b. "(...)If I was to permanently ban you right now for nothing at all(...)" STOP ! If didnt anything wrong, why i get banned? c. "(...) Do you think that you deserve a "second chance"? According to your previous post you should stay permanently banned, no matter what.(...)" NO.i didnt understand me. I said, that the point isnt the 2nd chances, is the 3rd, 4th,5th... 2nd chance makes all the sense, but a 3rd,4th,5th ? NO. d. Do u think that's fair u play a lot turn a " zombie" in pc to get xp, and an hacker using cheat engine build something to add xp? and nothing happens with he ? YEAH SO MUCH FAIR.How do u fell abt it? Note, i edited my previous post and ur posted while i'm editing so, read it again please. Answer to a.: I am not insulting your intelligence. But since you didnt know the meaning of the word (or didnt show it anyway) I thought I would help you. Wont happen again I am deadly serious, are you? Answer to b.: STOP? Who are you? Do you decide right or wrong? I have written a number of times that eg doctorpoison ( you seem to like him as example) hadnt done anything wrong. He was a victim of a bug, and yet you wish to punish him. Answer to c.: Already answered. Answer to d.: Are you serious? I wont answer that question because I decide it is stupid. And I think you know the answer before you even wrote it. Honestly, being a moderator is severely overrated. In many cases, if you're the type to want it, you're also the type that shouldn't get it. I can't really tell if it's all that bad here, since there's only a few cases mentioned here and I haven't really noticed anything out of the ordinary. For instance, Gogg getting banned doesn't come as a big surprise; not that I had anything particular against him or anything, but he did have an attitude. I don't know how he was as a moderator, but I wouldn't have picked him to represent me at least. Perhaps I missed all of his numerous redeeming qualities and am not being fair, but I can't really base an opinion on what I don't know. What I do know is that being a moderator or admin for a community is not great job. People argue with you over anything and everything, no matter how trivial. They seem to know a great deal more about what you do than you do yourself. Oh, and every last one of them is apparently a fully educated lawyer. Trust me, it gets old. If the guys here want to have rules against insulting the staff, I fully understand why. Personally I wouldn't have, for the exact reason that even if it's disruptive behavior, you invite accusations of bias and abuse if you do something about it (maybe you're right, but... Exhibit A, Your Honor). That was my policy a long time ago in a place far away; you can insult me as much as you want, but if you do it to others, you're going down. Guess I should throw in a point here or something... I know there will be decisions regarding how the staff manage the community that you disagree with, and that's fine. I assume the people here can handle being criticized in a reasonably polite manner (at least I have yet to see evidence to the contrary). I'd probably have been banned already otherwise. Don't make sweeping accusations; I can guarantee you that nothing will change if you can't point out what was done wrong beyond "they are really mean to me" or similar (unless of course it was a specific case of one person actually being mean to you, I guess). One especially annoying thing to do, at least as I saw it, was when people who had no real knowledge of what happened insisted on getting involved. That doesn't apply to all cases of course, but the claim that someone was banned for "no reason" is ridiculous unless you are that person, and if not, that person can defend him/herself. If you have a complaint and express it in a constructive manner, maybe they will listen if you have a valid point. If you insult or throw around profanity, I dare promise you that it won't matter whether you are right or not. However, you also have to understand that it's not as easy as it looks. Being a moderator is a thankless job for the most part, and you don't have an unlimited time to spend on making a decision that in most cases really shouldn't be a big deal even if you screw it up. Cut them some slack and relax. If the community is nice to the moderators even during disagreements, they are far more likely to be nice right back. People like you are the reason I'm still willing to be part of the staff on this server. It's pointless to argue though, because no matter how logical the 'other side' is, it only makes people believe in their own arguments more. Psychologically they've already got it into their heads that they can't possibly be wrong. After all, if they were wrong, then what was the point of all they were doing up until now? I meant to compliment it earlier too. I agree with TFSE fully Look guys there is a case that insult my inteligence the case of KITKID AND DOCTORPOISON, they got unbaned, i dont even know why and i cant find the topic that unbaned (i hope that is not underground). I dont know Gogg or Fuel, i know that sometimes they passed the limit (they are human) but have a reason for that, the cases of unban make lot of people disapointed (the rules mean nothing? I saw a lot o videos of kitkid immortal in BC) and hackers with a lot of report and nobody do nothing (i om not wrong have a rule in RPT that say about a lot reports make the reported take ban) please lets be more human (think about the good players) or treat anyone in rigor of law (no exceptions for no one, oe rule for all no mercy). If you don't know why the were unbanned, and presumably have limited knowledge of why they were banned in the first place, how can you know that it was not the right thing to do? You don't know what happened and neither do I, only the those who banned, unbanned and were banned does. I'm not saying you're necessarily wrong, but you really don't have a lot of information to go on, and certainly not enough to draw that kind of conclusion. Edit: Huh. No check for new posts with quick reply, apparently. Man when i say that i dont know why they got unban i because that information was obscure (one more problem of server obscure informations that players cant acces but is crucia to clear misundertandings) i saw kitkid in videos and on BC in "ïmmortal mode", and kitkid get unban after unban that is very weird, the poor thing is that people says that is just "imagination" but dont try to look (or dont want) if it have a point of reason. It seems you didnt read my reply at all? Why should we bother answering your questions when you dont even read them? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dohkito 0 Report post Posted August 12, 2011 The argues can be logical and consistent, but if the attitudes dont, is = nothing. Other point is, that some staff's members, turns everything in personal side, then punish the player, as he is only trying to help solve some problems that are bothering. mute+ban acc+ban char+block ip and all... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury 0 Report post Posted August 12, 2011 The argues can be logical and consistent, but if the attitudes dont, is = nothing. Other point is, that some staff's members, turns everything in personal side, then punish the player, as he is only trying to help solve some problems that are bothering. mute+ban acc+ban char+block ip and all... I cant make you read and I cant teach you the meaning of every word. But please, this is getting ridiculous. It seems you didnt read my reply at all? Why should we bother answering your questions when you dont even read them? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dohkito 0 Report post Posted August 12, 2011 @ Mercury: all these problems that ppl that used hack or not,will be solved if the GM put in in the request,why the guy get unban. It's a suggestion too, can u do it ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites