Hadden 167 Report post Posted April 19, 2022 can we increase a little bit the drop rate for luminous key? i find it very rare item to have or playe expensive 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
al0nex2 28 Report post Posted April 19, 2022 (edited) increase drop rate -> many 144 item and 16 17x xd Edited April 19, 2022 by al0nex2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hadden 167 Report post Posted April 19, 2022 58 minutes ago, al0nex2 said: increase drop rate -> many 144 item and 16 17x xd u want hard life ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
al0nex2 28 Report post Posted April 19, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Hadden said: u want hard life ? hard all, not just me, hard life will make item good price. Like celton, if GM make good life so now all server hav celton brac. Game will become boring Edited April 19, 2022 by al0nex2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreddth0ught 46 Report post Posted April 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Hadden said: can we increase a little bit the drop rate for luminous key? i find it very rare item to have or playe expensive +1 no hate... its difficult to loot even if your camping at one spawn already for numerous hours ? 7 minutes ago, al0nex2 said: hard all, not just me, hard life will make item good price. Like celton, if GM make good life so now all server hav celton brac. Game will become boring regarding centlon goodies... even if your a lowbie but you won the roll definitely you'll be getting it like our 14x archer randomly hitting centlon but won fair roll on the relic... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hadden 167 Report post Posted April 19, 2022 14 minutes ago, al0nex2 said: hard all, not just me, hard life will make item good price. Like celton, if GM make good life so now all server hav celton brac. Game will become boring u really want hard life eh, hahahaha cant say much just a little increase for the drop rate will do like a 5% buff or something just my opinion or rather make it available in coin shop 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piabeta 137 Report post Posted April 19, 2022 putting keys on tulla roll and boss AW, on sod and hg I think it would help a little 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreddth0ught 46 Report post Posted April 19, 2022 22 minutes ago, piabeta said: putting keys on tulla roll and boss AW, on sod and hg I think it would help a little +1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hadden 167 Report post Posted April 19, 2022 5 hours ago, piabeta said: putting keys on tulla roll and boss AW, on sod and hg I think it would help a little this is good idea too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
moobie1988 1,233 Report post Posted April 19, 2022 Luminous drop rate is already high. Proof of this is you can see a lot of shops in ric with Lkeys for sale. The only reason why its expensive is people sell it high. You can see shops of luminous keys in ric all the time. Which mean their is a balance at the moment between supply and consumers. It will only go high if there will be a tip in balance or event. Consequently, a drop in price if supply exceed the normal demand. Kind regards, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Prateado 494 Report post Posted April 19, 2022 9 hours ago, piabeta said: putting keys on tulla roll and boss AW, on sod and hg I think it would help a little +1 SOD/HG/Greddy, Draxos, Centlon, i think l keys should be add in many events like Easter Egg, with this las one, noone is farming, event has been nerfed a lot, maybe if GM put new rewards people will have a new hope in this event xD 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hadden 167 Report post Posted April 19, 2022 4 hours ago, moobie1988 said: Luminous drop rate is already high. Proof of this is you can see a lot of shops in ric with Lkeys for sale. The only reason why its expensive is people sell it high. You can see shops of luminous keys in ric all the time. Which mean their is a balance at the moment between supply and consumers. It will only go high if there will be a tip in balance or event. Consequently, a drop in price if supply exceed the normal demand. Kind regards, im not sure on if finding the item in ric all the time = balance Two things to obtain the key 1. Buying costs around 70-80c (70c price is a myth atm but its possible) 2. Hunt on your own, (Good luck grinding on it 8 hours a day with max 3 keys) im not sure if thats fun though ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
moobie1988 1,233 Report post Posted April 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Hadden said: im not sure on if finding the item in ric all the time = balance Two things to obtain the key 1. Buying costs around 70-80c (70c price is a myth atm but its possible) 2. Hunt on your own, (Good luck grinding on it 8 hours a day with max 3 keys) im not sure if thats fun though ? 1. Market Balance ( this is controlled of supply and demand) Price can drop down or increase in a short period of time. This dictates the market value in my opinion. Market shows supply and demand. If you can still see items long enough in Ric and people shout in Trade price. You will see the trend. This is my insight towards market value of keys. Keys I can say you can purchase them in shops 80,85-90kk in Ric. Majority of the sellers who sell for 75c I can say that is the current market value of keys. This can be sold within 8hrs. 70c value This would be people who are in a rush and don't have time to wait. This is a rare find so as 75kk value keys in ric. At this price it can be sold after shouting. With all of this data and frequency through out the week I would say that is the current price as of the moment. In my opinion I would say its balance. Because their is no shortage of keys and for the price is relatively reasonable for the chance to get decent loot as compared to SL and SS. 2. Hunt on your own. ( This is purely luck) Some can acquire keys in the last hr. while others could grind and not get any at all. I for example couldn't loot any even if I killed 10x the number of mobs compared to my friends. Probably purely bad luck. While my friends could get 2 or 3 within the same time. Note: I'm a buyer of keys so I watch really closely how keys move in the market. This is purely my opinion and If others think otherwise. I don't hold it against them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xkintaro 1,759 Report post Posted April 19, 2022 31 minutes ago, moobie1988 said: 1. Market Balance ( this is controlled of supply and demand) Price can drop down or increase in a short period of time. if we could craft this LKEY, using metallic alloy and some other herbalism material like Thales Beard x10, this would create another demand for another item and move the market even more. this would help in the crafting price of items as well. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Prateado 494 Report post Posted April 19, 2022 1 hour ago, moobie1988 said: 1. Market Balance ( this is controlled of supply and demand) Price can drop down or increase in a short period of time. This dictates the market value in my opinion. Market shows supply and demand. If you can still see items long enough in Ric and people shout in Trade price. You will see the trend. This is my insight towards market value of keys. Keys I can say you can purchase them in shops 80,85-90kk in Ric. Majority of the sellers who sell for 75c I can say that is the current market value of keys. This can be sold within 8hrs. 70c value This would be people who are in a rush and don't have time to wait. This is a rare find so as 75kk value keys in ric. At this price it can be sold after shouting. With all of this data and frequency through out the week I would say that is the current price as of the moment. In my opinion I would say its balance. Because their is no shortage of keys and for the price is relatively reasonable for the chance to get decent loot as compared to SL and SS. 2. Hunt on your own. ( This is purely luck) Some can acquire keys in the last hr. while others could grind and not get any at all. I for example couldn't loot any even if I killed 10x the number of mobs compared to my friends. Probably purely bad luck. While my friends could get 2 or 3 within the same time. Note: I'm a buyer of keys so I watch really closely how keys move in the market. This is purely my opinion and If others think otherwise. I don't hold it against them. not balanced bro, all these shops in ric are exp service shops, they are the ones who drop many keys cause they keep long time xping and get more than other. i play everyday 30 min SL, 1h SS and i get 1-2 per week with doing my daily and i use 3rd eye ever 33 minutes ago, xkintaro said: if we could craft this LKEY, using metallic alloy and some other herbalism material like Thales Beard x10, this would create another demand for another item and move the market even more. this would help in the crafting price of items as well. +1 i like the idea to make LKEY a crafteable item, with this many other items should be get a better value, maybe create a formula with, Medicinal Powder, Insghfull Powder, Invigorating Powder and Esmerald shards should work to craft LKEYS 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HoOoOoDLUM 112 Report post Posted April 19, 2022 +1111 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
moobie1988 1,233 Report post Posted April 19, 2022 I think if we make it craftable we will have an oversupply of keys that people wont need. hahaha I have a feeling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrGreen 109 Report post Posted April 19, 2022 -1 for this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xkintaro 1,759 Report post Posted April 19, 2022 2 hours ago, moobie1988 said: I think if we make it craftable we will have an oversupply of keys that people wont need. hahaha I have a feeling. no, because the material price will go up and no one will pay so much and will buy the ones that drop instead of just crafting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeadlyWarrior 688 Report post Posted April 19, 2022 The Droprate of L-Keys is okay/balanced. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
- D E A T H S T R O K E - 1,760 Report post Posted April 19, 2022 (edited) increasing L-key drop rate requires reducing DG drop rate of items, unless you want a massive influx of items 144 on server to the point they are worthless. Edited April 19, 2022 by - D E A T H S T R O K E - 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
moobie1988 1,233 Report post Posted April 19, 2022 1 hour ago, xkintaro said: no, because the material price will go up and no one will pay so much and will buy the ones that drop instead of just crafting. Then no point making it craftable if noone will buy. ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xkintaro 1,759 Report post Posted April 19, 2022 1 hour ago, moobie1988 said: Then no point making it craftable if noone will buy. ? I said that the quantity will not increase too much like you said, precisely because the prices of materials would be a counterbalance, making it impossible to fill the market with many keys, because at some point, either material would be lacking or the price would rise too much in the craft because the materials would be expensive. but at some point the price would settle down and we would have more options on how to get LKEYs, can't you drop them? buy or craft. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites