Why not allow RMT?

[fernando 104]

Hey guys, as title said, I'd like to go straight to the point: why not allow RMT?

 

Most ppl from the game and probably even staff knows that ppl use game for RMT, so why dont we make it a licit way to earn money? 

 

I mean, if someone contracts a xp service, he'll still need to buy coins to pay the servicer, right? If the one whos hiring a servicer is buying coins from the game, game is getting profit, and also the one who's doing service is earning either. It's a perfect circle, or am I missing something? Maybe if players from same country pay each other outside game, bank-to-bank, then that might be a problem, but it might be happening for years already, it's a hard way to catch.

 

I'm not considering if rmt is good or bad to the serve healthy here, we'd need to have another discussion for this topic.

 

Ofc that as always, staff shouldnt give any kind of support for those who want to do RMT, but at least dont ban those who does.

 

Do you guys think it would increase community strenght with this measure or it would collapse? would like to hear your thoughts guys ? 

 

 

[moobie1988 1,234]

1 hour ago, fernando said:

I mean, if someone contracts a xp service, he'll still need to buy coins to pay the servicer, right?

 

no, If they contact each other they can already transact outside the game.

 

-1 RMT . The money that goes into the game helps the developers to keep the game running for years to come.

 

 

Also, they will have a hard time regulating this and No support will be given if you lose real money.

Edited April 20, 2022 by moobie1988

[Hulk 332]

RMT is not good for the game's finances.
If RMT is released, it can end up with the game's income and we know that no one works for free, If you find the KC values expensive by the coin shop, I recommend buying for BCH (although apparently the coins are not being automatically deposited)

[Mjizzy_7 2,028]

RMT is not needed. Just lower the price of 1 Kc to make it fair for ppl who don't use Euro. With that RMT automatically dies cause it worth more to buy from Shop. 1 kc = 50 R$ for brs for example most of them are to ready to pay this

 

Edited April 20, 2022 by Moussi7

[kamusito 75]

that will kill the server eventually  if they make it "legal" because they know there are ppl who do it for living but like you said, its kinda hard to track or they dont want to because its a win win situation

[covidkilla 414]

 

@Overlady

 

I have told this server many times and still no response ?

 

 

 

Not everyone can afford euro currency and its amongst the most expensive currency rate in the world...  wartale has players from all over the world , paying euros is really expensive for people living in non-euro countries. 

 

 

2 hours ago, kamusito said:

that will kill the server eventually  if they make it "legal" because they know there are ppl who do it for living but like you said, its kinda hard to track or they dont want to because its a win win situation

 

Whether they make it legal or not RMT will always exist in this game , and Rmt transactions are far greater then coin shop transactions..

 

 

It makes more sense if the server made coin shop more affordable for NON- euro currency countries 

3 hours ago, moobie1988 said:

 

no, If they contact each other they can already transact outside the game.

 

-1 RMT . The money that goes into the game helps the developers to keep the game running for years to come.

 

 

Also, they will have a hard time regulating this and No support will be given if you lose real money.

 

 

 

I think they should reduce the cost in coin shop, If your main concern is donating to help the server.

 

 

 

In reality more transactions are happening during Rmt compared to donations in coin shop.. its a fact.  I think they need to make coin shop universal in terms of the currency rate will

change depending on the country that your in

 

 

Because when @Wartale makes donations only in euro currency they are shooting themselves in the foot because many many people wont pay in euros they rather RMT. 

 

 

 

It's simple : this game could make way more money if they just allowed other countries to pay in their currency amount, without it having to be converted to the euro currency amount.

 

They would get so many more donations this way and WAY less RMT transactions 

 

Edited April 20, 2022 by covidkilla
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[Anghel0506 167]

-1 to rmt.

+1 to make more non-euro payments in coin shop.

[moobie1988 1,234]

I think changing currency per location would be a lot of work and exchange rate would differ.

[covidkilla 414]

3 minutes ago, moobie1988 said:

I think changing currency per location would be a lot of work and exchange rate would differ.

 

 

Of course , but its work that needs to be Done. When RMT transactions are far greater then coin shop transactions... The server is just losing way to much money to RMT.

 

 

Reality is they need to make it more affordable for non-euro countries.  If they dont implement this , well then the RMT big business will continue , and this server will continue to lose those transactions.... 

 

It doesn't take a business degree to understand what needs to be done.  They could make way more money if they just made better decisions . 

 

 

They need to stop the growth of RMT. 

 

Edited April 20, 2022 by covidkilla
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[moobie1988 1,234]

Just now, covidkilla said:

 

 

Of course , but its work that needs to be Done. When RMT transactions are far greater then coin shop transactions... The server is just losing way to much money to RMT.

 

 

Reality is they need to make it more affordable for non-euro countries.  If they dont implement this , well then the RMT big business will continue , and this server will continue to lose those transactions.... 

 

 

 

 

Saying that what will happen if euro countries will just ask non euro countries to purchase coins for them? I think it would still be a lose for the server.

[covidkilla 414]

7 minutes ago, moobie1988 said:

 

Saying that what will happen if euro countries will just ask non euro countries to purchase coins for them? I think it would still be a lose for the server.

 

They lose a little to gain a lot more,  Because finally transactions are happening in coin shop and not going out the back door to RMT.

 

 

 

The main point is making more people use the coin shop to purchase their coins. As long as they have that euro currency there worldwide they will continue to Feeed the RMT market.

 

 

Point is , if they loose a little on a transaction from a purchase of coin shop because the currency rate difference well its still a transaction that they didn't have before.

 

 

 

Its the idea of bringing more volume of transactions to the coin shop, 

 

 

 

Some business makes their millions off small margins , wartale needs to gain more volume of transactions 

Edited April 20, 2022 by covidkilla
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[Anghel0506 167]

7 minutes ago, moobie1988 said:

I think it would still be a lose for the server.

Saying that don't you think the server is actually loosing so much right now due to rmt? because people from non-euro countrys pref by far buy coins to rmt because its cheaper.

[covidkilla 414]

7 minutes ago, Anghel0506 said:

Saying that don't you think the server is actually loosing so much right now due to rmt? because people from non-euro countrys pref by far buy coins to rmt because its cheaper.

 

 

It can be up to 50% cheaper to buy from RMT  compared to paying Euro prices in coin shop,  This is why this server really needs to take this topic seriously. 

 

 

They really need to adjust the prices of players in NON- euro countries.

 

 

 

Also im not sure if this is true , but dont most players in this game not have euro currency and are from other countries.  Why make this game euro currency when not many players

have euro currency in their country 

 

 

 

[moobie1988 1,234]

4 minutes ago, covidkilla said:

 

 

It can be up to 50% cheaper to buy from RMT  compared to paying Euro prices in coin shop,  This is why this server really needs to take this topic seriously. 

 

 

They really need to adjust the prices of players in NON- euro countries.

 

 

 

Also im not sure if this is true , but dont most players in this game not have euro currency and are from other countries.  Why make this game euro currency when not many players

have euro currency in their country 

 

 

 

 

This game is amazing isnt it and people pay 50% more.

[Anghel0506 167]

9 minutes ago, covidkilla said:

Also im not sure if this is true , but dont most players in this game not have euro currency and are from other countries.

I’m latino and this server have a lot of latinos, here the currency is not even in dollars so buy coins from coin shop is so expensive. In my opinion the staff need to remake the price of coins and then create another payment for non-euro countrys, yes it is a lot of work but doing this im sure the earnings of the server will increase.

[covidkilla 414]

3 minutes ago, Anghel0506 said:

I’m latino and this server have a lot of latinos, here the currency is not even in dollars so buy coins from coin shop is so expensive. In my opinion the staff need to remake the price of coins and then create another payment for non-euro countrys, yes it is a lot of work but doing this im sure the earnings of the server will increase.

 

 

I just feel bad when people get banned for RMT , from the country that they come from paying euro prices is way to expensive. Players in other countries have no choice , they need to buy coins from RMT because it is affordable.

 

 

This game kind of pushes players to Buy coins through RMT because coin shop to expensive, and then punishes them by banning the players... its a terrible system and cycle. 

 

 

 

[thisisrauldo 827]

5 hours ago, fernando said:

would like to hear your thoughts guys ? 

 

 

Staff should be more severe with RMT rules, I mean it's something hard to prove ofc because people can fake pictures of X or Y person saying that did it etc, but a lot of times people got away with a 2 day ban and keep doing it ?? aside from those that dont even get touched by the Staff for personal reasons and perks they bring to the server aside their conduct. ? Saying that, I know it wont change a thing, neither to make it more severe nor to allow it publicly. (because it's already allowed if you're dont say a word in some show off way)

[Hulk 332]

Value kc via bch is practically equal (sometimes smaller) than the value used by RMT.
If it makes 10 euros = 1kc and 10 reais (brl) = 1kc, I would simply exchange my 10 euros for 52 reais and buy 5kc

the only way to fix this would be for each country to have a server, but wartale is a server for the world, so conversion for each country is irrelevant, whoever has the strongest currency can simply sell and buy weaker currency

[Hadden 167]

7 hours ago, moobie1988 said:

 

Saying that what will happen if euro countries will just ask non euro countries to purchase coins for them? I think it would still be a lose for the server.

 

think of it its already happening the opposite way.

 

EU countries can buy coins easy (cause they can afford and already have the advantage for non EU countries) and feed them off to non EU Countries

 

 

 

 

 

 

[KherNitZ 39]

The game needs money inorder to survive. We cant let this game die. I even separating some money everytime my payday just to buy coins thru paypal. just OOT ??

 

[xkintaro 2,022]

Cripto is the only way to everyone to be equal

[Henri 11]

2 hours ago, xkintaro said:

Cripto is the only way to everyone to be equal

You crip too? ?

[DeadlyWarrior 688]

3 hours ago, xkintaro said:

Cripto is the only way to everyone to be equal

 

Crypto is fake, same as the paper money. 

 

5 hours ago, Hadden said:

 

think of it its already happening the opposite way.

 

EU countries can buy coins easy (cause they can afford and already have the advantage for non EU countries) and feed them off to non EU Countries

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Even for people from EU its not cheap. True that the currency here is Euro, but the income here in relations to the living costs is not high - living costs and taxes and energy costs etc are very very high. Its not like people are rich here, thats fake. 

 

Dont think RMT is good or will improve anything. 

Edited April 21, 2022 by DeadlyWarrior

[moobie1988 1,234]

2 hours ago, DeadlyWarrior said:

 

Crypto is fake, same as the paper money. 

 

 

Even for people from EU its not cheap. True that the currency here is Euro, but the income here in relations to the living costs is not high - living costs and taxes and energy costs etc are very very high. Its not like people are rich here, thats fake. 

 

Dont think RMT is good or will improve anything. 

 

True. If they convert it to non EU currency probably people wont be able to still afford it.

 

Nothing will change and we just wasted developers time and resources.

Edited April 21, 2022 by moobie1988

[covidkilla 414]

1 hour ago, moobie1988 said:

 

True. If they convert it to non EU currency probably people wont be able to still afford it.

 

Nothing will change and we just wasted developers time and resources.

 

 

l think your happy with more RMT transactions compared to coin shop transactions. If you think staff making an effort to try to find a solution for this is a waste of time then RMT will continue to be the dominant place to buy coins.

 

 

Maybe you like RMT I dont know... 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3 hours ago, DeadlyWarrior said:

 

Crypto is fake, same as the paper money. 

 

 

Even for people from EU its not cheap. True that the currency here is Euro, but the income here in relations to the living costs is not high - living costs and taxes and energy costs etc are very very high. Its not like people are rich here, thats fake. 

 

Dont think RMT is good or will improve anything. 

 

 

Your ideology works the same for many other countries. No one is saying euro's are rich.  We are saying when the conversion happens from one country to the euro dollar ... its way to high and becomes unaffordable which has continued the growth of RMT market.