redsky272 731 Report post Posted June 26, 2022 Hello, I want to write a short review about new 146 Fist. 142 Fist Requirements LevelStrengthTalent 142280 - 293149 - 156 Base Stats Min Damage Max Damage Attack Speed Critical Attack Rating Block Integrity 130 - 135 167 - 171 7 21% 338 - 351 18 - 20% 303 - 323 Spec. Stats Critical Block Attack Power Attack Rating 4% 3%Lv/7Lv/1 - 3 146 Fist Requirements LevelStrengthTalent 146297 - 310154 - 161 Base Stats Min Damage Max Damage Attack Speed Critical Attack Rating Block Integrity 135 - 140 173 - 177 7 21% 358 - 371 18 - 20% 310 - 330 Spec. Stats Critical Block Attack Power Attack Rating 4% 3%Lv/7Lv/1 - 3 A. Overall, There is no big difference between 146 fist and 142 fist, Some Keys different: 1. Min Damage : + 5 2. Max Damage: +6 --> Around 60 atk power added if you use 146 fist instead of 142 Fist. 3. Atk rating : + 20 B. Outlook: You can check out my Video to see. In my opinion: Both are ugly because they are too big for the body to carry. B. Price: 1. 142+24 Fist X2 = 12kc 2. 146 Fist ~ 10->25kc/each. Inconclusion, 146 Fist is a high-end Fist that everyone should use. But the price need to reduce a lot because it can not bring a big different in compare to 142 fist.(Only 60 atk power + 20 atk rating) (My personal opinion) 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GiacMoBinhYen 94 Report post Posted June 26, 2022 5kc I buy, go? Lol 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redsky272 731 Report post Posted June 26, 2022 5 hours ago, GiacMoBinhYen said: 5kc I buy, go? Lol Then it could be 30kc/pair of fists +24. Reasonable price in the future Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mrzero 122 Report post Posted June 26, 2022 6 hours ago, redsky272 said: A. Overall, There is no big difference between 146 fist and 142 fist, Some Keys different: 1. Min Damage : + 5 2. Max Damage: +6 --> Around 60 atk power added if you use 146 fist instead of 142 Fist. R u see the new javelin? compare to 142 and 146 only min +4 and Max +6 and add more 34 attack raitting on this. lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
- D E A T H S T R O K E - 1,759 Report post Posted June 26, 2022 (edited) the price is regulated by players themselves. in my opinion, 146 weapon that are not Sword are not worth more than 40kc. Sword definitely was a insane buff to 2 h damage, and there are many KS/FS on game, so, yeah, the price will be fairly high for a long time. Edited June 26, 2022 by - D E A T H S T R O K E - 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redsky272 731 Report post Posted June 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Mrzero said: R u see the new javelin? compare to 142 and 146 only min +4 and Max +6 and add more 34 attack raitting on this. lol Well, in this case,146 Jav + 148 shield is the best combination. 1 hour ago, - D E A T H S T R O K E - said: the price is regulated by players themselves. in my opinion, 146 weapon that are not Sword are not worth more than 40kc. Sword definitely was a insane buff to 2 h damage, and there are many KS/FS on game, so, yeah, the price will be fairly high for a long time. Yea right, for Ks/fs 146 weapon brings a huge difference. It worths >40kc. For Bs, not, you can use 142 gear to wait for a reasonable price. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sansiro 134 Report post Posted June 27, 2022 48 minutes ago, redsky272 said: Well, in this case,146 Jav + 148 shield is the best combination. Yea right, for Ks/fs 146 weapon brings a huge difference. It worths >40kc. For Bs, not, you can use 142 gear to wait for a reasonable price. 1st 146 sword 90kc 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redsky272 731 Report post Posted June 27, 2022 18 minutes ago, sansiro said: 1st 146 sword 90kc Mr Market is always right Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lt1genv 493 Report post Posted June 27, 2022 10 hours ago, redsky272 said: A. Overall, There is no big difference between 146 fist and 142 fist, Some Keys different: 1. Min Damage : + 5 2. Max Damage: +6 --> Around 60 atk power added if you use 146 fist instead of 142 Fist. It should be calculated Min Damage +5(x2) = 10 Max Damage: +6(x2) = 12 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hulk 332 Report post Posted June 27, 2022 Just now, lt1genv said: It should be calculated Min Damage +5(x2) = 10 Max Damage: +6(x2) = 12 ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aruchan 412 Report post Posted June 27, 2022 (edited) 59 minutes ago, redsky272 said: Mr Market is always right apparently 2nd sword is 90kc even if its 'only' 6-6 atk pow. Its absolutely worth it if you can afford. Its gonna be your weapon for the next 3 years minimum. I see a huge jump in damage on my Ass after upgrading my daggers. The Atk rtg and pow adds up for playe a bit. Helps me fight against higher level people and decimates lower level people. Edited June 27, 2022 by aruchan 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redsky272 731 Report post Posted June 27, 2022 11 minutes ago, lt1genv said: It should be calculated Min Damage +5(x2) = 10 Max Damage: +6(x2) = 12 You need 2 fists but only 1 could count. it mean double cost, 1 effect 4 minutes ago, aruchan said: apparently 2nd sword is 90kc even if its 'only' 6-6 atk pow. Its absolutely worth it if you can afford. Its gonna be your weapon for the next 3 years minimum. I see a huge jump in damage on my Ass after upgrading my daggers. The Atk rtg and pow adds up for playe a bit. Helps me fight against higher level people and decimates lower level people. Daggers are worth to pay high price bro, it add both offense and defense. and yea, they are worth to buy for sure. 1 thing that make us consider is market price. In this case, thequestion is : Does it worth 40-50kc for 2 fists ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
poosh1 203 Report post Posted June 27, 2022 Yes every extra damage worth, maybe wait players drop more items and the price will be better, just need to wait ^^ The fists are ugly agree, but you can use better skins to hide haha good luck 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChainLancer 98 Report post Posted June 27, 2022 16 minutes ago, redsky272 said: You need 2 fists but only 1 could count. it mean double cost, 1 effect Daggers are worth to pay high price bro, it add both offense and defense. and yea, they are worth to buy for sure. 1 thing that make us consider is market price. In this case, thequestion is : Does it worth 40-50kc for 2 fists ? It's depend on supply and demand. If no one buy it, price will drop down soon. As you know that ( or maybe you can search), Honda Vision's official retail price is ~ 30 mil VND, but recently market price is~ 60 mil VND due to big gap between supply and demand. Or Vietnamese food such as durian, the price dropped down from 90~100k vnd/kg to 50 60k/kg due to less demand (vs last year). Value of these products is unchange but price changed due to market. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aruchan 412 Report post Posted June 27, 2022 45 minutes ago, redsky272 said: You need 2 fists but only 1 could count. it mean double cost, 1 effect Daggers are worth to pay high price bro, it add both offense and defense. and yea, they are worth to buy for sure. 1 thing that make us consider is market price. In this case, thequestion is : Does it worth 40-50kc for 2 fists ? I spent about 50kc in total for x2 146 daggers + respeccing + aging to +24. Imo its worth it and within my budget. Its gonna be my weapon for the next 3 years. Assassin seem to be getting more popular as well so i feel like the price is fair. Also for BS and Ass we don't need shield. So we somewhat still pay lesser than KS and FS etc. Most other 146 weapons like sword, bow and staff would cost way more. And they need it with shield as well for full BIS. All in all we pay lesser for 'more value' 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redsky272 731 Report post Posted June 27, 2022 1 hour ago, ChainLancer said: It's depend on supply and demand. If no one buy it, price will drop down soon. As you know that ( or maybe you can search), Honda Vision's official retail price is ~ 30 mil VND, but recently market price is~ 60 mil VND due to big gap between supply and demand. Or Vietnamese food such as durian, the price dropped down from 90~100k vnd/kg to 50 60k/kg due to less demand (vs last year). Value of these products is unchange but price changed due to market. That's why 146 sw has been sold for 90kc bro 57 minutes ago, aruchan said: I spent about 50kc in total for x2 146 daggers + respeccing + aging to +24. Imo its worth it and within my budget. Its gonna be my weapon for the next 3 years. Assassin seem to be getting more popular as well so i feel like the price is fair. Also for BS and Ass we don't need shield. So we somewhat still pay lesser than KS and FS etc. Most other 146 weapons like sword, bow and staff would cost way more. And they need it with shield as well for full BIS. All in all we pay lesser for 'more value' yea the price of your 2 daggers is fair enough bro. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
suesue 234 Report post Posted June 27, 2022 Two things from wartale when you wanna buy items 1/ you are really rich 2/ you willing to wait If you choose option 1, This topic shouldnt exist. And you are the first one, who own 146 fist. You only can complain if GM sell fists from coin shop. But this item you buy from players bro. Price based on supply and demand. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redsky272 731 Report post Posted June 27, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, suesue said: Two things from wartale when you wanna buy items 1/ you are really rich 2/ you willing to wait If you choose option 1, This topic shouldnt exist. And you are the first one, who own 146 fist. You only can complain if GM sell fists from coin shop. But this item you buy from players bro. Price based on supply and demand. This is a review post man. There's NO complaination . Edited June 27, 2022 by redsky272 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aruchan 412 Report post Posted June 27, 2022 9 hours ago, redsky272 said: That's why 146 sw has been sold for 90kc bro yea the price of your 2 daggers is fair enough bro. Yea i feel the price of 2 brand new bis item for that price is fine. Especially for our class which is more obscure. Not as high demand. I think 50kc and below for +24 and respec is fine. Anything more would depends on the demand. If more people play BS or Ass 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redsky272 731 Report post Posted June 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, aruchan said: Yea i feel the price of 2 brand new bis item for that price is fine. Especially for our class which is more obscure. Not as high demand. I think 50kc and below for +24 and respec is fine. Anything more would depends on the demand. If more people play BS or Ass For me, base on history price trend of old items like 144 items, the price is around 20-30kc, so 148 around 30-50kc is a fair price except Daggers and fists(which are much cheaper due to low demand) and yes, for the new items you have to pay the fee to use them before others. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites