mrzhang111 24 Report post Posted September 7, 2022 (edited) GM,能不能用EB中的低级战士测试一下。如果你想打怪物,你必须让怪物攻击你。你能放出来吗?你以为是KS?有能力减少25%的伤害。增加防御和闪避的生存技能。KS的闪电也可以让怪物停滞不前。FS可用吗?适合低级士兵吗? I formed a team with my friend. He was a tank and resisted three monsters. If I wanted to hit the monsters, I had to help him bear the damage of three monsters. I had to stop adding blood after 1 second. Otherwise I will die. Edited September 7, 2022 by mrzhang111 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dior 633 Report post Posted September 7, 2022 What ??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrzhang111 24 Report post Posted September 7, 2022 Just now, Dior said: 什么 ??? I mean, FS Flame Vortex the range is too short. Only 100. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
s0ckch3 98 Report post Posted September 8, 2022 FS is weak in pve as power ms i think so. Too bad def, blk, eva. Lets see around SS and EB map. FS, Power MS almost disappear Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hellokitty 11 Report post Posted September 8, 2022 +1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hadden 167 Report post Posted September 8, 2022 (edited) yeah, fs is broken in pve, the struggle is real, for you to tank the solution is used the best/max items, use 1h and a shield Edited September 8, 2022 by Hadden Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrGreen 109 Report post Posted September 8, 2022 Soon broken like mech ? see u in a crossroad Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sell_only 121 Report post Posted September 8, 2022 Quote GM,能不能用EB中的低级战士测试一下。如果你想打怪物,你必须让怪物攻击你。你能放出来吗?你以为是KS?有能力减少25%的伤害。增加防御和闪避的生存技能。KS的闪电也可以让怪物停滞不前。FS可用吗?适合低级士兵吗? His translation is not on-point with the original in Chinese. Or rather it's actually two parts. One part is in Chinese, the other part in English. should be: 'GM, can you go EB test average-geared Fs? If you want to attack monsters, monster will attack you too. Can you even cast FS skills because of that? Do you think FS like KS? Have 25% DMG reduction. Also KS has added defense and evasion as survival skills. KS lightning can also stun monsters. Can FS be the same? Average-geared FS?' then with the English part: Quote I formed a team with my friend. He was a tank and resisted three monsters. If I wanted to hit the monsters, I had to help him bear the damage of three monsters. I had to stop adding blood after 1 second. Otherwise I will die. So if you combine both parts, the Chinese part and the English part, you can guess what he is trying to say. So: I think he is saying he played with a friend. His friend played Tank, he played FS. So when he used FS to go flame-spinning, because his friends tank 3 monsters, when he used FS to go flame-spinning which is a melee skill, his FS need to pot in 1 second or die, so it's impossible. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TigerShark22 488 Report post Posted September 9, 2022 (edited) KS doesn't have evasion. But it does have more deff/dmg reduction/undead dmg reduction ( but 450 less hp without vl or so). Many suggested to buff the PvE of FS, no idea where it is going too. In my opinion: The flame Vortex- needs 120 range, and not 100. Due to going berserk ( according to the skill) - 5% of the dmg it's dealing- could go as heals to fs hp( so it will actually be useable). KS LS is strong, and has stun( on a class who can tank with dmg reduction and deff). The vortex as is now is practically useless, and can't even be used too well with a tank ( due to such a short range). Hellion- allow the option to merge those 4 mobs into a decent summon which survives well ( would be great- will help fs a lot, to have a summon like other classes). Some might neglect them, but summons do decent now, they just aren't invincible , and need to recast few times if dead( when facing 1 mob at EB, after 50% dmg to the summon it attacks the player, but if there are 2 mobs at you, the summon can keep 1 mob occupied- great help for a low abs class like FS). About health boost- add 5%- 10% hp regen per sec at PvE. So it will be able to survive well, fits his 1v1 melee, and hp characteristics, yet doesn't make him good at mass mobs tanking. Axes- need a buff in general. 2h sword ( 138/146 ) is just way better. Could change the crit formula at aging axes.( To be like everyone else - +1 min and max, +0.5% crit +5 AR per base lvl, x2 x3 at the other lvls). Not kidding that at PvE- would pick 138 sword over 146 axe. Ironically, fs is supposed to use axe. It's just sad. If even some of those were implanted, FS would be a lot more attractive. RN fs is unplayable with 2h weapon ( tanking wise) and unplayable with 1h weapon ( DPS wise). Regardless of what a fs will do- it won't be good. Edited September 9, 2022 by TigerShark22 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeadlyWarrior 688 Report post Posted September 10, 2022 My suggestion for you: get rid of your FS Play SS, MGS, Priest, KS, ATA or Archer 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrzhang111 24 Report post Posted September 13, 2022 On 2022/9/10 at PM8点29分, KriKa. said: 享受你的fs 使用boss xtal来帮助你 宠物 和垃圾邮件咆哮 You may not know how bad FS is in EB, but there is boss crystal in time. It will still turn around and hit you, even if you attack from the longest distance? On 2022/9/9 at AM9点46分, TigerShark22 said: KS没有回避。 但它确实有更多的 deff/ dmg减少/不死dmg减少(但没有vl左右 减少 450 hp )。 许多人建议增强FS的PvE,也不知道它的去向。 在我看来: 火焰漩涡 - 需要 120 范围,而不是 100。 由于变得狂暴(根据技能) - 它正在处理的dmg的 5% -可以作为对 fs hp的治疗(所以它实际上是可用的)。 KS LS很强大,并且有眩晕(在一个可以减少dmg和deff的职业上)。现在的涡流实际上是无用的,甚至不能很好地与坦克一起使用(因为射程如此之短)。 Hellion - 允许选择将这 4 个小怪合并成一个体面的召唤,它可以很好地生存(会很棒 - 对 fs 有很大帮助,像其他类一样有召唤)。 有些人可能会忽略它们,但现在召唤物做得不错,它们只是不是无敌的,并且如果死了需要重新施放几次(当在 EB面对 1 个怪物时,在对召唤物造成 50% dmg后它会攻击玩家,但如果有2个小怪在你,召唤可以保持1个小怪被占用 - 对像FS这样的低abs类有很大帮助)。 关于健康提升 - 在PvE中每秒 增加 5%- 10%的生命恢复。所以它能够很好地生存,适合他的1v1 近战和hp特性,但并不能使他擅长大规模暴徒坦克。 斧头——一般来说需要一个增益。2h剑(138/146)更好。可以改变老化轴的暴击公式。(和其他人一样 - +1 min and max, +0.5% crit +5 AR per base lvl , x2 x3 at other lvls)。 不是在PvE开玩笑——会选择 138 把剑而不是 146 把斧头。具有讽刺意味的是, fs 应该使用 axe。这只是悲伤。 如果即使其中一些被植入,FS会更具吸引力。 RN fs 无法使用 2h 武器(在坦克方面)并且无法使用 1h 武器(在DPS方面)。不管 fs 会做什么——它都不会好。 According to your suggestion, I think it will make FS too powerful. What I have raised is a problem that needs to be improved urgently. The attack range is short, and EB's monster hatred is unstable Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TigerShark22 488 Report post Posted September 13, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, mrzhang111 said: According to your suggestion, I think it will make FS too powerful. What I have raised is a problem that needs to be improved urgently. The attack range is short, and EB's monster hatred is unstable It won't. It will make him a better tank at 1v1 mostly and pot less. Fs has low abs, no deff, no evade, no block. His only defence layer is hp and only 450 more from pike for example. It equals to 1 hit- while pike is a lot harder to hit, has dodge and a slowdown- which make him tank around the same as the fs I have described above- if not better. The hp regen won't enable him to tank mass mobs( yet it will ease at cases he can semi tank- which is probably what most fs players complain about- being unplayable ). But it will enable him to hold the vortex, and excell in 1v1 mobs( which is what I believe his role- 1v1). Edited September 13, 2022 by TigerShark22 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrzhang111 24 Report post Posted September 13, 2022 Just now, TigerShark22 said: 它不会。 这将使他在1v1时成为更好的坦克,并且减少底池。Fs腹肌低,无防御,无回避,无阻挡。他唯一的防御层是hp,例如来自 pike 的防御层只有 450 多。它等于 1 次命中——虽然长矛更难被击中,但有闪避和减速——这使得他的坦克与我上面描述的 fs 大致相同——如果不是更好的话。 hp rec 不会 使他能够坦克大量怪物,但它将使他能够保持漩涡,并在1v1怪物中表现出色(这就是我相信他的角色- 1v1)。 playing world of Warcraft for a long time i am. after FS has advanced equipment and levels, 1v1 is very powerful。If this improvement is made, more donors will choose to play FS, and FS may be the most popular profession in BC. This is too ideal, which is unfair to other professions for 1v1. I chose to modify this attack range because it does not affect PVP. No player uses it in PvP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TigerShark22 488 Report post Posted September 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, mrzhang111 said: playing world of Warcraft for a long time i am. after FS has advanced equipment and levels, 1v1 is very powerful。If this improvement is made, more donors will choose to play FS, and FS may be the most popular profession in BC. This is too ideal, which is unfair to other professions for 1v1. I chose to modify this attack range because it does not affect PVP. No player uses it in PvP What I have suggeted- purely PVE buff. Not a single thing which works in PvP. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrzhang111 24 Report post Posted September 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, TigerShark22 said: 我所建议的——纯粹的 PVE 爱好者。没有任何东西在PvP中有效。 sorry. I haven't read your suggestion carefully. Your suggestion is indeed reasonable. but G M may be think more On 2022/9/8 at PM12点07分, sell_only said: 他的译文与中文原文不相符。或者更确切地说,它实际上是两个部分。一部分是中文,另一部分是英文。 应该: 'GM,你能去EB测试平均齿轮Fs吗?如果你想攻击怪物,怪物也会攻击你。你甚至可以因此而施放 FS技能吗?你觉得FS喜欢KS吗?减少25%的DMG。KS还增加了防御和躲避作为生存技能。KS闪电也可以击晕怪物。FS可以一样吗?平均齿轮FS? 然后是英文部分: 所以如果你把这两个部分结合起来,中文部分和英文部分,你可以猜到他想说什么。 所以:我认为他是在说他和朋友一起玩。他的朋友玩坦克,他玩FS。所以当他用FS去喷火的时候,因为他的朋友坦克3个怪物,当他用FS去喷火这个近战技能的时候,他的FS需要在1秒内下锅或者死,所以这是不可能的。 ty bro 谢谢 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LookF 45 Report post Posted September 14, 2022 On 9/7/2022 at 8:37 PM, mrzhang111 said: GM,能不能用EB中的低级战士测试一下。如果你想打怪物,你必须让怪物攻击你。你能放出来吗?你以为是KS?有能力减少25%的伤害。增加防御和闪避的生存技能。KS的闪电也可以让怪物停滞不前。FS可用吗?适合低级士兵吗? I formed a team with my friend. He was a tank and resisted three monsters. If I wanted to hit the monsters, I had to help him bear the damage of three monsters. I had to stop adding blood after 1 second. Otherwise I will die. change to mage or prs you will feel better Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrzhang111 24 Report post Posted September 15, 2022 we love fs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LookF 45 Report post Posted September 15, 2022 Fs so lovely and strong char Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites