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i don't like how priestesses went from the support class with average mass killing skills to the best hunting class, best exping class, while still keeping their best support abilities.

and the boost is even higher now with hunting and exping maps merged, the huge indirect boosts to CL made prs just best at everything, except at pvp.

this made my knight totally useless, wtf do i do with it? 1v1 is not needed for anything but pvp now, and knights aren't even strong at pvp, same goes for many other melee/ranged classes... i don't like how prs are boosted from the mediocre support class to #1 class on the server in all but one aspect.

 

and some recent changes have been promoting this even more... its not enough that prs are best class at every map, they got their will of not having pvp in the most interesting map in? im not 115 yet, but i was looking forward to the fights there, but now thats gone too. also like what happened before... there was a debate about private drops on bosses. some prs voted no, saying its very unfair, and it never happened either? why is this server promoting prs so much above everything else? should i just delete my knight and make a prs finally?

 

this server will be full of priests soon, just like old rpt was full of pikes. if rpt doesn't reverse the uncalled changes he made to some skills.

thanks for reading and sorry for sounding whiney, but this is really disapointting to me

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Mercury

Actually this has struck me as well. I think bringing back ct3 pvp would be a good thing to do to add some balance again.

The ones who choose PRS from the start shouldn't whine about PVP since PRS was never a PVP char.

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sharky3640

Y not have 2 different 115 maps, 110 maps, or even for new 120 maps. The Hunt/training ct3 map with lower drop % of good items because the monsters are easy to kill. It will balance out though with the other only hunt 115 map, with hard monsters that only melee chars can really kill.  Make those hard monsters have a higher % of the good items dropping, high % xp, and make it pvp. 

 

It's not a perfect solution, but I think it will make more % of the rpt population happier as a  whole, than having it 1 way or the other.

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davv

agreed. it seems prs rule everything here

 

but one thing never changes : mechs are way left behind :(

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Exelicer

Hm have to say yes and no.

 

Prs was for so many years the weakest class of all, even pure 1vs1 classes like fighter were better masskilliers - really far from avg masskiller...

Now prs r strong masskillers, not the best but really good and all maps r atm masskillable. Duno if really the best class... depends what u wanna do.

 

When a pike tells me he can kill ct3 mobs in 3-4 CLs 1vs1 and even with torn he kills faster than prs. hm?

Imo the static dmg of CL is to high and the wand bonus to low, even a high health prs can do some noticeable dmg and 1h is near same as 2h dmg.

Its like a diff of 30dmg on a total dmg of maybe 800avg between 1h and 2h atm.

 

I think each class should have 2 strong and 2 weak points or something between.

Prs r good at support & masskill and weak tank and worst 1vs1.

Fighter r good at tank & 1vs1, avg at masskiller and weak at support

Pike r good masskiller & 1vs1, avg tank, weak support

...

 

 

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xinxilaum

how about mage?

we cant go pvp (we die fast like everyone here and we dont have 1x1 skill), hunt is dificult, our dmg is low (sod is the only thing that we realy can enjoy bcz we can tank a lil bit), our skills need to be changed (like in guide description) and blah blah blah

 

everyone just care about your character, fact.

 

sandurr supose to do balance with t5 and adjusting t1-t4 skills, but few things happens untill now, but prs is favored atm (spawns, resistence, you know what i m talking about) which helps everybody bcz everyone leveling with a prs in the party.

 

imo balance means enjoy everything in game with any char. No overpower and underpower class, but it s hard to do.......patience, guys, patience.

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VaGo

maybe sandurr should let us donate for class change ^^ like in the past to dont see things like this or too many ppl trading chars lol

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  On 2/21/2010 at 10:04 PM, Mercury said:

Actually this has struck me as well. I think bringing back ct3 pvp would be a good thing to do to add some balance again.

The ones who choose PRS from the start shouldn't whine about PVP since PRS was never a PVP char.

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if bring back ct3 pvp, there is no change to stop PRS be the best class.

if CT3 pvp map, that means only the strong  clan can go CT3, inculding those PRS that in the STRONG clan.

this game shall not have only one or two clans.

 

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  On 2/22/2010 at 1:07 AM, G said:

if bring back ct3 pvp, there is no change to stop PRS be the best class.

if CT3 pvp map, that means only the strong  clan can go CT3, inculding those PRS that in the STRONG clan.

this game shall not have only one or two clans.

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Make new ones and we'll have three or four :D

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Evo

I like how things are now, Mage/Priest class is meant for massive AOE dmg. It's balanced like every mmorpg out there. char's that cast magic attacks are meant for killing big mobs at once. If you take that away from them then theres really no point of being a priest or a mage. Only purpose for a priest would be vl and the only purpose for a mage is either distortion or "enchant."

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xinxilaum
  On 2/22/2010 at 9:44 AM, valtsu said:

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how about mage?

we cant go pvp (we die fast like everyone here and we dont have 1x1 skill), hunt is dificult, our dmg is low (sod is the only thing that we realy can enjoy bcz we can tank a lil bit), our skills need to be changed (like in guide description) and blah blah blah

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Mage is a mage. Mage's always been the same. You knew it when you picked a mage, so wheres the problem?

 

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If i remember well, this server supose to be balanced....so why the magician skills formula doesnt changed? Enchant dont add wp and dont add a good atk pow, spirit elemental dont add 100% of static dmg, death ray is a joke, AoE skills dont changed. If you re thinking 'mage s always been the same', sry but supose to be balanced, then i have the right to require balancing.

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Gogg

Stop crying, every class have weak points

 

If you're not happy, go train something else

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QMan

no the way to make all char in perfect balanc

 

then, play prs.. is easiest way

if u know about benefit of priestess, use it.

 

pristontale is not only make for fun in 1 char..

enjoy!!

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JoeHandsome

Remember guys, this server is in a development process, and it is far from completion

 

As far as I know, is skillbalance also part of Wartales thoughts  ;)

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Exelicer
  On 2/22/2010 at 9:44 AM, valtsu said:

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Prs was for so many years the weakest class of all, even pure 1vs1 classes like fighter were better masskilliers - really far from avg masskiller...

Now prs r strong masskillers, not the best but really good and all maps r atm masskillable. Duno if really the best class... depends what u wanna do.

 

Prs r good at support & masskill and weak tank and worst 1vs1.

 

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Worst tank? Urrrrrrrh...

Prs is one of the best tank with some points in health.. And usually they don't even have to tank much, since CL pushes the monsters back and stops them. But anyway, vl is rigged, it adds much more than just the hp, orbs have block and the defence gets really high in higher levels, muspell adds evade... Prs worst tank? That's a nice joke you got there.

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Prs is ofc one of the best tanks and ya omg ranged class havent to tank much wow.

Everywhere u can see prs in middle of the hs to tank for pike and fighter...

 

Uhh now everything u saying will be against me now? lol

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aznboi1211

Mage / Prs are fine as they are. Its true they are being favored atm but they are the most boring classes and they leveled us from level 1. we should not ruin them now lol

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Elistor
  On 2/21/2010 at 9:50 PM, DoPre said:

[glow=red,2,300]but pvp now, [/glow]

should i just delete my knight and make a prs finally?

thanks for reading and sorry for sounding whiney, but this is really disapointting to me

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I feel the same

113 fighter , useless , i think of making a priestess

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  On 2/21/2010 at 9:50 PM, DoPre said:

i don't like how priestesses went from the support class with average mass killing skills to the best hunting class, best exping class, while still keeping their best support abilities.

and the boost is even higher now with hunting and exping maps merged, the huge indirect boosts to CL made prs just best at everything, except at pvp.

this made my knight totally useless, wtf do i do with it? 1v1 is not needed for anything but pvp now, and knights aren't even strong at pvp, same goes for many other melee/ranged classes... i don't like how prs are boosted from the mediocre support class to #1 class on the server in all but one aspect.

 

and some recent changes have been promoting this even more... its not enough that prs are best class at every map, they got their will of not having pvp in the most interesting map in? im not 115 yet, but i was looking forward to the fights there, but now thats gone too. also like what happened before... there was a debate about private drops on bosses. some prs voted no, saying its very unfair, and it never happened either? why is this server promoting prs so much above everything else? should i just delete my knight and make a prs finally?

 

this server will be full of priests soon, just like old rpt was full of pikes. if rpt doesn't reverse the uncalled changes he made to some skills.

thanks for reading and sorry for sounding whiney, but this is really disapointting to me

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seems like you are not needing a prist in your party to train right?

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DoPre
  On 2/23/2010 at 12:22 AM, soyedu said:

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i don't like how priestesses went from the support class with average mass killing skills to the best hunting class, best exping class, while still keeping their best support abilities.

and the boost is even higher now with hunting and exping maps merged, the huge indirect boosts to CL made prs just best at everything, except at pvp.

this made my knight totally useless, wtf do i do with it? 1v1 is not needed for anything but pvp now, and knights aren't even strong at pvp, same goes for many other melee/ranged classes... i don't like how prs are boosted from the mediocre support class to #1 class on the server in all but one aspect.

 

and some recent changes have been promoting this even more... its not enough that prs are best class at every map, they got their will of not having pvp in the most interesting map in? im not 115 yet, but i was looking forward to the fights there, but now thats gone too. also like what happened before... there was a debate about private drops on bosses. some prs voted no, saying its very unfair, and it never happened either? why is this server promoting prs so much above everything else? should i just delete my knight and make a prs finally?

 

this server will be full of priests soon, just like old rpt was full of pikes. if rpt doesn't reverse the uncalled changes he made to some skills.

thanks for reading and sorry for sounding whiney, but this is really disapointting to me

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seems like you are not needing a prist in your party to train right?

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i'm not complaining about vl, am i?

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soyedu
  On 2/23/2010 at 12:58 AM, DoPre said:

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i don't like how priestesses went from the support class with average mass killing skills to the best hunting class, best exping class, while still keeping their best support abilities.

and the boost is even higher now with hunting and exping maps merged, the huge indirect boosts to CL made prs just best at everything, except at pvp.

this made my knight totally useless, wtf do i do with it? 1v1 is not needed for anything but pvp now, and knights aren't even strong at pvp, same goes for many other melee/ranged classes... i don't like how prs are boosted from the mediocre support class to #1 class on the server in all but one aspect.

 

and some recent changes have been promoting this even more... its not enough that prs are best class at every map, they got their will of not having pvp in the most interesting map in? im not 115 yet, but i was looking forward to the fights there, but now thats gone too. also like what happened before... there was a debate about private drops on bosses. some prs voted no, saying its very unfair, and it never happened either? why is this server promoting prs so much above everything else? should i just delete my knight and make a prs finally?

 

this server will be full of priests soon, just like old rpt was full of pikes. if rpt doesn't reverse the uncalled changes he made to some skills.

thanks for reading and sorry for sounding whiney, but this is really disapointting to me

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seems like you are not needing a prist in your party to train right?

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i'm not complaining about vl, am i?

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thats exactly the point, u complain about what u dont need, if was up to u, u will let the prist with vl and nothing else

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seems like you are not needing a prist in your party to train right?

i'm not complaining about vl, am i?

 

 

thats exactly the point, u complain about what u dont need, if was up to u, u will let the prist with vl and nothing else

 

 

how about changing vl to passive skill not a buff skill  ::) Chain Lighting will back to as it was. Would you love to xp in place like FT1 or FT2 ?

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DoPre
  On 2/23/2010 at 4:14 AM, soyedu said:

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i don't like how priestesses went from the support class with average mass killing skills to the best hunting class, best exping class, while still keeping their best support abilities.

and the boost is even higher now with hunting and exping maps merged, the huge indirect boosts to CL made prs just best at everything, except at pvp.

this made my knight totally useless, wtf do i do with it? 1v1 is not needed for anything but pvp now, and knights aren't even strong at pvp, same goes for many other melee/ranged classes... i don't like how prs are boosted from the mediocre support class to #1 class on the server in all but one aspect.

 

and some recent changes have been promoting this even more... its not enough that prs are best class at every map, they got their will of not having pvp in the most interesting map in? im not 115 yet, but i was looking forward to the fights there, but now thats gone too. also like what happened before... there was a debate about private drops on bosses. some prs voted no, saying its very unfair, and it never happened either? why is this server promoting prs so much above everything else? should i just delete my knight and make a prs finally?

 

this server will be full of priests soon, just like old rpt was full of pikes. if rpt doesn't reverse the uncalled changes he made to some skills.

thanks for reading and sorry for sounding whiney, but this is really disapointting to me

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seems like you are not needing a prist in your party to train right?

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i'm not complaining about vl, am i?

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thats exactly the point, u complain about what u dont need, if was up to u, u will let the prist with vl and nothing else

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actually, i need prs/vl/cl, cl is very helpful to my party so please don't say such bullshit, when i made this topic i was aware about the things i proposed could affect my own exp.

 

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DoPre
  On 2/23/2010 at 7:15 AM, honglinhvt said:

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seems like you are not needing a prist in your party to train right?

i'm not complaining about vl, am i?

 

 

thats exactly the point, u complain about what u dont need, if was up to u, u will let the prist with vl and nothing else

 

 

how about changing vl to passive skill not a buff skill  ::) Chain Lighting will back to as it was. Would you love to xp in place like FT1 or FT2 ?

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how about changing 9 bolts to 6 + reduce its damage, would you love to be a prs?
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finnepinne

While I agree with that Prs are a bit overpowered atm, I don't mind because it gives good xp.

But I don't think it's the class itself that needs changing, it's the maps. As of now, a brotha can't solo at all when he wants to hunt.

Having to tank atleast 3 monsters in ct3 is a pain, and we spend more pots than what drops.

 

I suggest, give the high lvl maps slow spawns aswell as hell spawns. And if a prs or mage wants to masskill, whatever, let them lure the mobs together.

 

Just my two cents.

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