Lets talk about AS

[Majestic King 326]

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[maccabeus 6]

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[Majestic King 326]

8 hours ago, lonelyarcher said:

 

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archers do great dmg , can they kill as much as they used to in the past ? Of course not. But they are able to kill the same amount as other classes.. they can kill more than a bs because bs is slow , they can kill more than mgs,PRs, maybe a shaman and of course they kill more than ks.

people don’t pick archer because it’s not a comfortable character to play and the archer dies more than other classes and for many people who PvP here they hate to die , they take it very seriously in this game . But because she dies more doesn’t mean she’s useless .. the player just needs to play it smart. 

The archer is still one of the strongest classes to pick for PvP but their success depends on their alliances , their team strategy and their lvl relics items 
 

It’s also important to talk about the archer , if it’s a 15x archer decent items vs the high lvl 16x 17x of course these archers will struggle naturally.

 

if the archer 15x vs other classes 15x then the battle becomes fair and the archer will kill if she know how to play good .

 

in my personal opinion, i think the archer is ok for what the PvP system is today , maybe staff will re-balance everything and then things can change .. but for the way system is set up today i believe the archer is balanced and can perform well amongst all classeS

 

people say the class is dead , but not for the correct reasons . Today the archer requires critical thinking , when to go in and attack , when to run .. must stay behind tanks or melee it’s a team work PvP system we have here.. I think in the past people were so used to archer because it was such a good tank , they could stay in battle zone longer and today they struggle with the new archer play of hit and run .. die more .. make kills a little harder 

 

 

in past being a archer was so easy .. and for players who want to keep that style of play have other classes to play like ass ps ata she can stay in battle longer lower risk of being killed than archer . 
 

also important to mention , it depends on the situation . An archer who plays on a team who has more people vs the enemy that archer can play free and fun because the team is bigger if she stay back behind tanks she will have fun 

 

if other way around and archer have less people she can’t play it’s just the PvP system today.

 

but if we look at war mode , 2 phoenix shot can out a ps fast or other classes .. all she must do is stun hit kill the enemy 

 

point is the archer can kill , so when people make it seem like it’s a dead useless class I just think it’s unfair because we see the damage an archer can still out put today .

 

 

If I’m wrong than what’s the solution , perhaps increase att rating .. buff phoenix shot .. give the archer a hit kill skill like the ata split jav…. Give the archer more tanking abilities while keeping all her power .. what will be the consequences of any of these implementations..

 

 

My personal opinion I think we have good balance today , just ms need lots of help. 
 

 

Very wise in your words, you said it all.

[aod 16]

+1 You are a sensible player, some people want to give class suggestions and dont even play, I agree with your thinking.

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[hellokitty 18]

I agree！  but AS realy need buff.  it is obvious. skill is good for run. I  think armor is Armor ->leather  Armor or mail

Edited July 23 by Support
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[Muka 54]

Archer with the highest attack speed in the game... yet can't land even half the hits a Shaman or even an Atalanta can.
 

I’m talking about actually hitting the target.
 

Im totally fine with the Archer crying easily — as long as its because someone got through her block or dodge. But it's just plain frustrating when her crowd control skills don’t work because she cant hit anyone in the first place. Lmao.

Archer will always be one of the hardest classes to play, but she still needs to be effective like a real DPS character.

Edited July 23 by Muka

[Merenda 900]

17 hours ago, lonelyarcher said:

But they are able to kill the same amount as other classes.. they can kill more than a bs because bs is slow

Ignoring that part ofc, bc BS is an opposite concept of "balance"...

It's like... "Archer isn't weak, just no one in the game is good enough to play with her."

Dude, Wartale have so good players that they're reported 24/7, taped, just because they have an good APM and map knowledge. Not even those players can play properly with Archer. So... They're bad?

[tito 29]

17 hours ago, lonelyarcher said:

 

-1

 

archers do great dmg , can they kill as much as they used to in the past ? Of course not. But they are able to kill the same amount as other classes.. they can kill more than a bs because bs is slow , they can kill more than mgs,PRs, maybe a shaman and of course they kill more than ks.

people don’t pick archer because it’s not a comfortable character to play and the archer dies more than other classes and for many people who PvP here they hate to die , they take it very seriously in this game . But because she dies more doesn’t mean she’s useless .. the player just needs to play it smart. 

The archer is still one of the strongest classes to pick for PvP but their success depends on their alliances , their team strategy and their lvl relics items 
 

It’s also important to talk about the archer , if it’s a 15x archer decent items vs the high lvl 16x 17x of course these archers will struggle naturally.

 

if the archer 15x vs other classes 15x then the battle becomes fair and the archer will kill if she know how to play good .

 

in my personal opinion, i think the archer is ok for what the PvP system is today , maybe staff will re-balance everything and then things can change .. but for the way system is set up today i believe the archer is balanced and can perform well amongst all classeS

 

people say the class is dead , but not for the correct reasons . Today the archer requires critical thinking , when to go in and attack , when to run .. must stay behind tanks or melee it’s a team work PvP system we have here.. I think in the past people were so used to archer because it was such a good tank , they could stay in battle zone longer and today they struggle with the new archer play of hit and run .. die more .. make kills a little harder 

 

 

in past being a archer was so easy .. and for players who want to keep that style of play have other classes to play like ass ps ata she can stay in battle longer lower risk of being killed than archer . 
 

also important to mention , it depends on the situation . An archer who plays on a team who has more people vs the enemy that archer can play free and fun because the team is bigger if she stay back behind tanks she will have fun 

 

if other way around and archer have less people she can’t play it’s just the PvP system today.

 

but if we look at war mode , 2 phoenix shot can out a ps fast or other classes .. all she must do is stun hit kill the enemy 

 

point is the archer can kill , so when people make it seem like it’s a dead useless class I just think it’s unfair because we see the damage an archer can still out put today .

 

 

If I’m wrong than what’s the solution , perhaps increase att rating .. buff phoenix shot .. give the archer a hit kill skill like the ata split jav…. Give the archer more tanking abilities while keeping all her power .. what will be the consequences of any of these implementations..

 

 

My personal opinion I think we have good balance today , just ms need lots of help. 
 

 

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[PIRADINHO 110]

Balancing is not the focus, just look at Brawler.

[frozza 50]

This debate won't lead to anything, the team doesn't care about the game anymore and just bring minions and skins to the game ignoring the other problems and probably won't even read this topic.

[-Aoki- 13]

It was strange that they didn't close the topic with the argument "the system is too complex", usually that's all that happens, a copied and pasted message and a closed topic.

[sacerzuim 68]

Here we go again…

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Welcome to Wartale 2025 😃

[MyThiC 3]

19 hours ago, lonelyarcher said:

 

-1

 

archers do great dmg , can they kill as much as they used to in the past ? Of course not. But they are able to kill the same amount as other classes.. they can kill more than a bs because bs is slow , they can kill more than mgs,PRs, maybe a shaman and of course they kill more than ks.

people don’t pick archer because it’s not a comfortable character to play and the archer dies more than other classes and for many people who PvP here they hate to die , they take it very seriously in this game . But because she dies more doesn’t mean she’s useless .. the player just needs to play it smart. 

The archer is still one of the strongest classes to pick for PvP but their success depends on their alliances , their team strategy and their lvl relics items 
 

It’s also important to talk about the archer , if it’s a 15x archer decent items vs the high lvl 16x 17x of course these archers will struggle naturally.

 

if the archer 15x vs other classes 15x then the battle becomes fair and the archer will kill if she know how to play good .

 

in my personal opinion, i think the archer is ok for what the PvP system is today , maybe staff will re-balance everything and then things can change .. but for the way system is set up today i believe the archer is balanced and can perform well amongst all classeS

 

people say the class is dead , but not for the correct reasons . Today the archer requires critical thinking , when to go in and attack , when to run .. must stay behind tanks or melee it’s a team work PvP system we have here.. I think in the past people were so used to archer because it was such a good tank , they could stay in battle zone longer and today they struggle with the new archer play of hit and run .. die more .. make kills a little harder 

 

 

in past being a archer was so easy .. and for players who want to keep that style of play have other classes to play like ass ps ata she can stay in battle longer lower risk of being killed than archer . 
 

also important to mention , it depends on the situation . An archer who plays on a team who has more people vs the enemy that archer can play free and fun because the team is bigger if she stay back behind tanks she will have fun 

 

if other way around and archer have less people she can’t play it’s just the PvP system today.

 

but if we look at war mode , 2 phoenix shot can out a ps fast or other classes .. all she must do is stun hit kill the enemy 

 

point is the archer can kill , so when people make it seem like it’s a dead useless class I just think it’s unfair because we see the damage an archer can still out put today .

 

 

If I’m wrong than what’s the solution , perhaps increase att rating .. buff phoenix shot .. give the archer a hit kill skill like the ata split jav…. Give the archer more tanking abilities while keeping all her power .. what will be the consequences of any of these implementations..

 

 

My personal opinion I think we have good balance today , just ms need lots of help. 
 

 

 

Do you actually play Wartale? Or did you just pull that statement out of your ass, just to give you an idea?

[Palyn 59]

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[KriKa. 2,438]

no ty

[Overlady 5,333]

Hey there! We have some plans for the Archer, but they’re mostly focused on PvE.

We won’t buff Phoenix Shot directly in PvP since getting one shot from off screen isn’t fun. Instead, we’ll slightly boost Avalanche and monitor its performance.

For PvE, the biggest change will be a new AoE Entangle that synergizes well with Leap Shot, you can push enemies back, and they’ll take much longer to reach you. 

 

Best,

Overlady