Sometimes I feel like it's really worthy it!

[Edgardo 0]

Well,

 

Many times we feel it's useless to discuss, mainly because the massive interests lays elsewhere, as in the case of melee vs magic users. However, we sometimes see things change in all directions and for all classes. The only one secret is not to give up and not to loose control.

 

 

For example, My class has fixed damage AoE, poor defense, poor hunting, had to use other classes items to make what was so called buid, no participation in any aspect of the game.

 

By complaining we got:

- The AoE which is second only to priestess

- Decent defense, to not get always screwed while not attacking

- Decent formulas to MP, health and HP

- We have got close to balance by gaining some 1 on 1 skills

- We have got our skills fixed (need testing)

- We've got our gear fixed so we don't have to use other classes gear

- We can join a party, or try to hunt or help in SoD

 

And we have more to see in future!

 

All of this was conquered by a class known by the being the class which "nobody picks this class 'coz it's screwed" and "this class is supposed to be trashy because nobody plays it".

 

So guys, if you show some interesting argument, and have patience, everybody can discuss and correct what's wrong.

 

 

This topic is up to share how happy I am because of this new patch. and some of the recent ones.

[[D]ohkito 2]

Yeah dude, we're fighting for so long time and see that the staff are fixing Magician's problems it's really satisfactory.

I'm tired of hear the others players calling Magician as a useless class, I hear it almost every day ( include today). And the situation is changing...

Today is one of the happier of my days on the server.

 

Oh, man many days of fight,  many discussions  and we getting close.

Honestly I feel proud to be a part of this, many times I almost give up this server, for many reasons  include the Magicians situation.But, I couldn't leave, we fight, we discussed, we passed barriers, we changed change the situation with argument and a lot of conversation and patience.

 

Today, It's a victorious day, today we gave another step ahead. We getting close !

 

I've participated of many forums of many server and all servers seem to have the same lame problem about mages, for many reasons. Some that the developer don't care or don't know how to fix or the players don't care or the both. But this doesn't happen in rPT.We care, we know how to fix the issues and we do it.

 

Of course, we still have some problems to fix and I'll fight for it. But see the results, brings me happiness as a Magician player.

 

I'm very thankful to the development staff for this issue fixed.It take too much time, but happened.

 

For this reason I'm here formally saying:

 

Thanks guys !

 

Edit:

Ed, thanks for the grammar lessons. <3

[BiDa 4]

I'm so proud of us!

 

lol

[JoeHandsome 1]

All these changes weren't made because of complaints, but because they were needed in order to make the game better, more fair, and balanced

[BiDa 4]

Yes Wartale,

they were changed because we brought it up for discussion.

We talked about what was fair and what wasn't

[Lava 0]

Yeeeeey to all mages! 

Now I should exp a bit so I can put some points on EW  ;D

 

All these changes weren't made because of complaints, but because they were needed in order to make the game better, more fair, and balanced

 

Although what you say might be true, I rather believe that the staff reads what we post and complaint about so that the game can be improved, also, by the players perception of what is going to be better for everyone else and fairer.

[Edgardo 0]

All these changes weren't made because of complaints, but because they were needed in order to make the game better, more fair, and balanced

 

you're totally right Wartale.  What we try to mean is that we also need the interest and discussion of our forum members, in order to the justice to be done.

[ShufflingMage 0]

We are moving forward.. Rejoice Mages !! ;D

[Seishiro 0]

I am happy with it, i +1 everyone in this post.

 

 

[MrWakaWalrus 3]

times like these I fell pround of being magician!

[SoniKBooM 0]

i never doubted about that, they're called magicians for something, they need to be ( imo ) the strongest magic class ( stronger than prs ), but prs more oriented to support.

 

give us time, fellow mages, and we will rise again

[[D]ohkito 2]

I didn't log in the game yet, but if E.W is fully functional, I will be so happy ! )

[Seishiro 0]

3.2.4.0 is not released yet 

[[D]ohkito 2]

3.2.4.0 is not released yet 

 

No ?  why ?? 

[Seishiro 0]

Was posposed to... now  ;D

[MrWakaWalrus 3]

i never doubted about that, they're called magicians for something, they need to be ( imo ) the strongest magic class ( stronger than prs ), but prs more oriented to support.

 

give us time, fellow mages, and we will rise again

 

hail!!

[elsocio 0]

i never doubted about that, they're called magicians for something, they need to be ( imo ) the strongest magic class ( stronger than prs ), but prs more oriented to support.

 

give us time, fellow mages, and we will rise again

why u all hate prist?? with the last patch, things went bad for prist and all cuz of that kind of complains, is ok to fight for ur char to get it balanced but let the other class be, im upset cuz last changes on prist and im happy mgs got a fair balanced but dont try to stick prist as a "support char" cuz no one support prist, prist still have to get upgrates, still need money, prist's owners still need fun in game

[ShufflingMage 0]

^ Took me a while to figure out where you came from..

 

You had a fight with a knight on another topic.. Not mage..

On top of that.. The knight also owns a priest.. Not mage..

 

No hate involved in this topic..

[MrWakaWalrus 3]

i never doubted about that, they're called magicians for something, they need to be ( imo ) the strongest magic class ( stronger than prs ), but prs more oriented to support.

 

give us time, fellow mages, and we will rise again

why u all hate prist?? with the last patch, things went bad for prist and all cuz of that kind of complains, is ok to fight for ur char to get it balanced but let the other class be, im upset cuz last changes on prist and im happy mgs got a fair balanced but dont try to stick prist as a "support char" cuz no one support prist, prist still have to get upgrates, still need money, prist's owners still need fun in game

priestess = supposed to be a support class, help people leveling and stuff. mid defense, high hp, strong supportive skills and weak attack skills. never soloing, as wasnt supposed to do so. want to hurt things with magic?? create magician for christ sakes! Im happy priestess got reflection bellow 50%, they were supposed to have people defending her. priestesses needs upgrades and money indeed, thats why party systems exist.

magician = supposed to be the ultimate elemental magic users. insane attack, mid defense (today's are crappy), low hp (but not as low as we see today), soloers if they want.

 

what we see?

 

priestess owing sod solo, high level maps, still good support. in other words, OP compared to magicians

 

magicians crying in unfairness (me and all others) and hoping that their voices will be heard someday, as it is with time... a looong time.

[elsocio 0]

i never doubted about that, they're called magicians for something, they need to be ( imo ) the strongest magic class ( stronger than prs ), but prs more oriented to support.

 

give us time, fellow mages, and we will rise again

why u all hate prist?? with the last patch, things went bad for prist and all cuz of that kind of complains, is ok to fight for ur char to get it balanced but let the other class be, im upset cuz last changes on prist and im happy mgs got a fair balanced but dont try to stick prist as a "support char" cuz no one support prist, prist still have to get upgrates, still need money, prist's owners still need fun in game

priestess = supposed to be a support class, help people leveling and stuff. mid defense, high hp, strong supportive skills and weak attack skills. never soloing, as wasnt supposed to do so. want to hurt things with magic?? create magician for christ sakes! Im happy priestess got reflection bellow 50%, they were supposed to have people defending her. priestesses needs upgrades and money indeed, thats why party systems exist.

magician = supposed to be the ultimate elemental magic users. insane attack, mid defense (today's are crappy), low hp (but not as low as we see today), soloers if they want.

 

what we see?

 

priestess owing sod solo, high level maps, still good support. in other words, OP compared to magicians

 

magicians crying in unfairness (me and all others) and hoping that their voices will be heard someday, as it is with time... a looong time.

i dont know what game are u talking about, maybe ept, a lil update about hows things come here will help you out

[Zero 0]

priestess = supposed to be a support class, help people leveling and stuff. mid defense, high hp, strong supportive skills and weak attack skills. never soloing, as wasnt supposed to do so. want to hurt things with magic?? create magician for christ sakes! Im happy priestess got reflection bellow 50%, they were supposed to have people defending her. priestesses needs upgrades and money indeed, thats why party systems exist.

magician = supposed to be the ultimate elemental magic users. insane attack, mid defense (today's are crappy), low hp (but not as low as we see today), soloers if they want.

 

what we see?

 

priestess owing sod solo, high level maps, still good support. in other words, OP compared to magicians

 

magicians crying in unfairness (me and all others) and hoping that their voices will be heard someday, as it is with time... a looong time.

 

Bolded parts in quote, so I see its OK for a mage to want to be a one man show, but not for prs? . Totally fair bro. I agree mage is supposed to be the ultimate element user, but you're low hp is justified along with crappy defense. This isn't EPT, we're not making mages tank like mechs and AoE so well they don't need to even have 1 v 1 skills. I can agree to your need for AoE and decent 1 v 1, but as far as soloing you need to tank bad so you're at least somewhat dependent on other people.

 

I can be reasonable for mages asking for what they need, but it sure makes it hard when you're opinion is so bias you simply state your class should be better in all aspects than another.

[MrWakaWalrus 3]

priestess = supposed to be a support class, help people leveling and stuff. mid defense, high hp, strong supportive skills and weak attack skills. never soloing, as wasnt supposed to do so. want to hurt things with magic?? create magician for christ sakes! Im happy priestess got reflection bellow 50%, they were supposed to have people defending her. priestesses needs upgrades and money indeed, thats why party systems exist.

magician = supposed to be the ultimate elemental magic users. insane attack, mid defense (today's are crappy), low hp (but not as low as we see today), soloers if they want.

 

what we see?

 

priestess owing sod solo, high level maps, still good support. in other words, OP compared to magicians

 

magicians crying in unfairness (me and all others) and hoping that their voices will be heard someday, as it is with time... a looong time.

 

Bolded parts in quote, so I see its OK for a mage to want to be a one man show, but not for prs? . Totally fair bro. I agree mage is supposed to be the ultimate element user, but you're low hp is justified along with crappy defense. This isn't EPT, we're not making mages tank like mechs and AoE so well they don't need to even have 1 v 1 skills. I can agree to your need for AoE and decent 1 v 1, but as far as soloing you need to tank bad so you're at least somewhat dependent on other people.

 

I can be reasonable for mages asking for what they need, but it sure makes it hard when you're opinion is so bias you simply state your class should be better in all aspects than another.

 

Its simply because mages are the worst class I see now in every pt including this, the one fighting for fair balance in all classes! I also see the improvements made, and Im happy with it and Im sure most magician users, but its still a long journey to make things good for everyone. You say mages aint supposed to be tanking like mechs. Of course not!! Thats why classes exist: for you to choose the gameplay that you most enjoy. I agree AoE is effective enough, but mages should have a chance to PvP as well. And I didnt even mention the bugged skills.

 

Fun fact: mages = elemental users. priestess = divine force users. Who gets the ice meteorite with higher attack?? '

 

Some more Tier 5 skills are coming this december 17, we are still about to get stone spike and execration, wich will hopefully, once again, get things for us better.

[Edgardo 0]

I think Mage is not the worst class ever, we got hunting, and prs got better AoE, so it's pretty much they walk alongside each other in the list, IMHO.

 

Zero didn't say mages should tank, at all. he said in EPT CRAPT etc mages used to tank and here it's not. And it's much more than justified since mage is supposed to be powerful and not tanking.

 

We already have the "crappy tanking" part. It's only missing the "Powerful thing" IMO.

 

Also, I thought mage could be the best AoE ever, but lateley I started to think Prs shlould be the best AoE ever, since they won't be able to kill in PvP (every is possible but look at a priestess, sounds like "nurse" or "religious thing" or even "healing and cure" not "badass Killer"). And mages will get PvP capabilities (hopefully), so, nothng more fair than mages being the 2nd AoE.

 

it won't be only mages the char which "is not the best at something" knight and atalanta don't are really supposed to be "the best hunter" or "the best pvper".

[elsocio 0]

I think Mage is not the worst class ever, we got hunting, and prs got better AoE, so it's pretty much they walk alongside each other in the list, IMHO.

 

Zero didn't say mages should tank, at all. he said in EPT CRAPT etc mages used to tank and here it's not. And it's much more than justified since mage is supposed to be powerful and not tanking.

 

We already have the "crappy tanking" part. It's only missing the "Powerful thing" IMO.

 

Also, I thought mage could be the best AoE ever, but lateley I started to think Prs shlould be the best AoE ever, since they won't be able to kill in PvP (every is possible but look at a priestess, sounds like "nurse" or "religious thing" or even "healing and cure" not "badass Killer"). And mages will get PvP capabilities (hopefully), so, nothng more fair than mages being the 2nd AoE.

 

it won't be only mages the char which "is not the best at something" knight and atalanta don't are really supposed to be "the best hunter" or "the best pvper".

 

about ata and ks, they already are

[Zero 0]

Its simply because mages are the worst class I see now in every pt including this, the one fighting for fair balance in all classes! I also see the improvements made, and Im happy with it and Im sure most magician users, but its still a long journey to make things good for everyone. You say mages aint supposed to be tanking like mechs. Of course not!! Thats why classes exist: for you to choose the gameplay that you most enjoy. I agree AoE is effective enough, but mages should have a chance to PvP as well. And I didnt even mention the bugged skills.

 

Fun fact: mages = elemental users. priestess = divine force users. Who gets the ice meteorite with higher attack?? '

 

Some more Tier 5 skills are coming this december 17, we are still about to get stone spike and execration, wich will hopefully, once again, get things for us better.

 

As far as I know, they're not the best here but they're not horrible either, they're just decent. Ice meteorite is a T5 AoE, do not tell me you think your T3 dias should be doing more damage. Just because you are the "damage dealer" magic class does not mean your lower skills deal more than the highest level attack of another class; it means at an equivalent level [aka your T5 AoE] your skill should deal more damage than ours. Skills aren't easy to develop, especially attack ones, so these things don't happen overnight. Prs was given IM for a very special reason, basically because most of our tanking ability was removed and we would've been left dead last in 2 categories and near last in another.

 

Mage has been given more than fair consideration to balance issues over the past few updates, a long way from where they started. Quite clearly we're not neglecting mage but it requires patience while we work things out. I think fighter has a tougher time getting attention than the mage class and that they should be complaining more than the mages around the forum.

 

Amplify was given to address 1 v 1 concerns. From what I've heard, its sufficient enough for the time being.